RE: Aston F1 drivers help out Valkyrie testing

RE: Aston F1 drivers help out Valkyrie testing

Tuesday 18th February 2020

Aston F1 drivers help out Valkyrie testing

With three verification prototypes now built, it's time to bring out the development driver big guns...



Given the mire currently submerging Aston Martin, it can sometimes be forgotten how exciting (and ambitious) its product plans were - and hopefully remain. As well as the mid-engined supercars and the vision for future Lagonda EV luxury, there was - of course - the Valkyrie hypercar. And, with first deliveries scheduled for later in 2020, development is continuing apace.

Two new verifications prototype (VP) cars have now been built, a range of Valkyries that will eventually extend to eight. Aston says each of the octet "is subjected to a variety of intense testing programmes designed to develop and validate specific attributes that contribute to achieving the performance of the world's fastest ever road-going hypercar."


Part of that will presumably be track assessment, which is where Silverstone and the Aston Martin Red Bull Racing F1 drivers come in. Both Alex Albon and Max Verstappen drove VP1, the Valkyrie first seen last year, with the new prototypes driven either by Chris Goodwin or one of the WEC drivers - Alex Lynn or Darren Turner. Goodwin stated that having the three cars driving "will see the rate of physical development for this exceptional hypercar increase exponentially."

As for the Grand Prix drivers, they were understandably effusive about the new Aston: "Obviously there's still some development to do, but already it feels very good, especially the balance between the corners. It's light; it feels sharp. Sure, compared to an F1 car, you're missing the outright downforce, but you still feel the Gs in the corners and it definitely reacts closer to an F1 car than a normal road car", said Albon. Verstappen added that the downforce was "incredible", describing the drive as "a lot of fun".

Alright, so the verdict was hardly likely to be any different from the racing drivers, though it's nice to be reminded of what an awe-inspiring prospect the Valkyrie stands to be. Expect to see more from the development programme as those additional five VP cars are built - the rest of 2020 can hardly come soon enough.







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WCZ

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10,521 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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I've never been more excited about a car I'm never going to own in my life.


napoleondynamite

159 posts

130 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.

Hongkongfooi

624 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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WCZ said:
I've never been more excited about a car I'm never going to own in my life.
exactly..its going to be awesome

David-sxy46

8 posts

50 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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that about sums up what this car will do

wolfie28

696 posts

144 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
laugh

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
so true lol

G321

575 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
For sure

irocfan

40,421 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
hehe

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,136 posts

55 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Surely a fat talentless individual would be a better development driver. The last thing I'd want is a car set-up to the driving preferences of someone in the 99.999999 percentile of ability.

jakeb

281 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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You can see why they put the redbull stickers on it. Looks a bit "mehhrrr" otherwise.

So now that racing point sort of partially own Aston, and are becoming Aston, but neither Redbull or Racing Point having anything Aston tech related, is anyone an Aston F1 driver?


Dynamic Space Wizard

927 posts

104 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Surely a fat talentless individual would be a better development driver.
Wow, brilliant. I'm looking for a job laugh

RacerMike

4,202 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Having seen/experienced the type of feedback you get from the majority of racing drivers, these sorts of things make me laugh.

Engineer: “So what do you think?”
Driver: “Yeah good”
Engineers: “Any particular comments?”
Driver: “No not really. Seems good”

30mins later looking through data

Engineer: “Driver....did you feel like it was maybe a bit loose?”
Driver: “Ah yeah. Maybe?”
Engineer: “Yeah. You had two broken rear dampers and a snapped anti roll bar”

Generally there’s a reason why you have Vehicle Dynamics engineers drive cars. And it’s not usually because they’re rubbish at driving....quite the opposite in fact. This is very much a PR exercise to hype it up. And I don’t disagree with it!

WCZ

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10,521 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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RacerMike said:
Having seen/experienced the type of feedback you get from the majority of racing drivers, these sorts of things make me laugh.

Engineer: “So what do you think?”
Driver: “Yeah good”
Engineers: “Any particular comments?”
Driver: “No not really. Seems good”

30mins later looking through data

Engineer: “Driver....did you feel like it was maybe a bit loose?”
Driver: “Ah yeah. Maybe?”
Engineer: “Yeah. You had two broken rear dampers and a snapped anti roll bar”

Generally there’s a reason why you have Vehicle Dynamics engineers drive cars. And it’s not usually because they’re rubbish at driving....quite the opposite in fact. This is very much a PR exercise to hype it up. And I don’t disagree with it!
I'm not sure about the majority but F1 drivers are very aware of the science and setup behind cars and will be able to give constructive feedback

jl34

524 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
that really made me laugh thanks smile

cuda

464 posts

240 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Where will the DVLA approved number plates go - assuming the cars ever see a road...?!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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jakeb said:
You can see why they put the redbull stickers on it. Looks a bit "mehhrrr" otherwise.

So now that racing point sort of partially own Aston, and are becoming Aston, but neither Redbull or Racing Point having anything Aston tech related, is anyone an Aston F1 driver?
That's something of an over simplification.

The current Aston Martin Red Bull F1 sponsorship runs for the duration of the 2020 season. In 2021, Red Bull probably just revert to Red Bull Racing. The Red Bull Advanced Technology & Aston Martin tie-up finishes when the Valkyrie project is completed later this year.

DNA from Valkyrie will be used in the Valhalla and Vanquish. The engine for those two being derived from the Valkyrie, but in V6, turbocharged form (with hybrid assistance, in the Valhalla at least). Racing Point F1 will race as Racing Point F1 for the 2020 season. In 2021, Racing Point F1 will be entered as Aston Martin F1.

A future technology tie-up between Racing Point's F1 staff and Aston Martin's road going division hasn't been ruled out - the ground work for some lairy road cars has been laid with what's been shown off in Valkyrie.

In regard to the actual car, I saw a prototype at the factory last year; it's not 'mehhrr' IMO. There aren't many 1160bhp N/A V12's that rev to 11,000rpm, and weigh around 1000kg, with this level of downforce, that are road cars.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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cuda said:
Where will the DVLA approved number plates go - assuming the cars ever see a road...?!
There's some insightful YouTube videos that discuss this. Aston Martin received approval from the powers that be to use a metallic rear number plate due to exhaust gas temperatures melting plastic plates.

Csb-1

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103 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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NFC 85 Vette said:
There's some insightful YouTube videos that discuss this. Aston Martin received approval from the powers that be to use a metallic rear number plate due to exhaust gas temperatures melting plastic plates.
Why would they need approval? I have metal pressed plates on my car now; they are 100% UK road legal as the text etc conforms to the regs.

threespires

4,292 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
A silly remark.
What the owners do with their cars is up to them. So they might sit in air conditioned luxury alongside the owners other hypercars, only to be driven occasionally.
That's the reality of having a car collection. All the cars in the collection cars only get driven occasionally. It's impossible to drive them all at once.
There are dozens of P/Hrs who have a nice car tucked away in a garage for high day and holiday use only. Me included.

JxJ Jr.

652 posts

70 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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threespires said:
napoleondynamite said:
That F1 input will be absolutely critical for negotiating the tricky apex on the gravel drive between delivery truck and air conditioned storage barn.
A silly remark.
What the owners do with their cars is up to them. So they might sit in air conditioned luxury alongside the owners other hypercars, only to be driven occasionally.
That's the reality of having a car collection. All the cars in the collection cars only get driven occasionally. It's impossible to drive them all at once.
There are dozens of P/Hrs who have a nice car tucked away in a garage for high day and holiday use only. Me included.
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