RE: Project Vector is Jaguar's 'smart city' slicker
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sisu said:
As the Crow's have learnt that this wont run them over in the autonomous testing in Helsinki over the past 2 years allowing them to eat roadkill at their leisure.
They put horns on them but the birds reaslised that it would still stop regardless.
They have moved the testing to Arizona now
That's hilarious, do you have a source? I can't find one. They put horns on them but the birds reaslised that it would still stop regardless.
They have moved the testing to Arizona now
I've worked with autonomous vehicle engineers, and confirm that they identify random use cases just as absurd-sounding as this. They would have to create a crow detection algorithm or tinker with the cost/reward functions. However in this case they should definitely go for a bumper-mounted scarecrow.
Overhaul said:
and a claimed 50 mph!! in that thing: quite foolhardy
Overhaul said:
Surreal - thanks for posting!tommy1973s said:
I blame the Internet.
Reasons never to car share:
1. They'll vape, smoke, vomit and shag in it.
2. They'll kerb the tyres; not tell you; and you unwittingly will be at risk of a blowout.
3. I hate sharing. I can't even abide tapas bars.
But if you’re the kind of chap who spends all their income on beard trimming and artisan sandwiches but hasn’t the strength to walk anywhere you don’t have any choice but to share. As you say, no one likes to share but not sharing is an indulgence the professional over shopper can’t afford. Reasons never to car share:
1. They'll vape, smoke, vomit and shag in it.
2. They'll kerb the tyres; not tell you; and you unwittingly will be at risk of a blowout.
3. I hate sharing. I can't even abide tapas bars.
Personally, I suspect the actual issue with car sharing is why bother? Why have the hassle of involvement in an object when you can just use Uber when you need to tear yourself away from a mirror and go and buy some tat with the money you were meant to be using to put a roof over your head?
Grrbang said:
sisu said:
As the Crow's have learnt that this wont run them over in the autonomous testing in Helsinki over the past 2 years allowing them to eat roadkill at their leisure.
They put horns on them but the birds reaslised that it would still stop regardless.
They have moved the testing to Arizona now
That's hilarious, do you have a source? I can't find one. They put horns on them but the birds reaslised that it would still stop regardless.
They have moved the testing to Arizona now
I've worked with autonomous vehicle engineers, and confirm that they identify random use cases just as absurd-sounding as this. They would have to create a crow detection algorithm or tinker with the cost/reward functions. However in this case they should definitely go for a bumper-mounted scarecrow.
The controller is also used as the pod doesn't recognize someone cutting it up. It slows down inexplicably if someone passes to close.
The winter testing has a few problems. It doesn't work when it is snowing or when the snow has been plowed and there is ice road as it doesn't have points of reference, something that happens in Finland. Standing water is a problem, if there is a puddle due to flooding being splashed at it the pod cant recognize it as water itself or a dog shaped splash. Also dirty spray from Buses/trucks and frost added a layer to cameras and equipment over time gradually so requires them to clean the pod every run.
So they are only using it in Summer
As soon as you get shareable cars without a driver/owner onboard people will treat them badly, I'd half expect to get the car back in the morning still wet with bodily fluids.
Congestion will increase massively with autonomous technologies for exactly the same reason the researchers found out above the with crows, other road users (pedestrians mainly) will realise they can step out into the road with impunity which will cause gridlock and the cars will be driving by the book like a learner during a test which will cause massive frustration to other drivers.
JLR said:
Zero Accidents: Every year globally 1.3 million people die in car accidents, equivalent to eight jumbo jet crashes per day. Autonomous technologies can prevent these deaths.
Zero Congestion: Transport infrastructure across many countries is reaching its limits. Take central London, where the average speed of traffic is 7.4mph. Intelligent, networked transport systems offer the solution, with a future generation of system-level innovation.
JLR's 'Destination Zero' plan sounds like some same type of bs TFL spout with their 'Vision Zero' in regards to road deaths, it's frankly impossible to remove danger from the roads.Zero Congestion: Transport infrastructure across many countries is reaching its limits. Take central London, where the average speed of traffic is 7.4mph. Intelligent, networked transport systems offer the solution, with a future generation of system-level innovation.
Congestion will increase massively with autonomous technologies for exactly the same reason the researchers found out above the with crows, other road users (pedestrians mainly) will realise they can step out into the road with impunity which will cause gridlock and the cars will be driving by the book like a learner during a test which will cause massive frustration to other drivers.
LimaDelta said:
This. I think we are living through an exciting time when it comes to car design. We can almost literally re-invent the wheel. I look forward to more designs freed from the constraints of ICE installations.
It’s going to be very interesting seeing this evolve as we no longer are constrained by historical purpose. I can’t help thinking that everyone will just make a box though!If you made them 4 times as long then joined 8 of them up you could make the sort of EV we already have - they run on the London Underground!
And you often have to share your seat with a fat-a*sed mouth-breather with halitosis while you listen to the moronic drum n bass overspill from their headphones.
But if you think that is progress I hope you enjoy it.
And you often have to share your seat with a fat-a*sed mouth-breather with halitosis while you listen to the moronic drum n bass overspill from their headphones.
But if you think that is progress I hope you enjoy it.
Gecko1978 said:
I don't see it somhow, the reason being in london at least TFL. If my zero.emmesions driverless pod can take me from home to work then go park itself an charge up...tube drivers, station staff, bus drivers black cabs etc we don't need you anymore plus working from home (most city jobs are office based) means a lot less people using public transport.
Can't see the unions going for that
You assume buses and underground trains aren’t going to be automated. A Union has no power if the country doesn’t need the labour so they can not go for it all they want. With regard to the over paid underground drivers: good riddance. Can't see the unions going for that
Mr Tidy said:
If you made them 4 times as long then joined 8 of them up you could make the sort of EV we already have - they run on the London Underground!
And you often have to share your seat with a fat-a*sed mouth-breather with halitosis while you listen to the moronic drum n bass overspill from their headphones.
But if you think that is progress I hope you enjoy it.
However pants this sharing box idea looks it’s still very much the case that that our EV future looks better than yours: And you often have to share your seat with a fat-a*sed mouth-breather with halitosis while you listen to the moronic drum n bass overspill from their headphones.
But if you think that is progress I hope you enjoy it.
DonkeyApple said:
However pants this sharing box idea looks it’s still very much the case that that our EV future looks better than yours:
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A manager where I used to work told me how she and her sister were drunk in a taxi after a night out. She thought it was hilarious that her sister pissed all over the back seat and they did a runner when the furious driver demanded a cleaning fee. Without anyone there holding people to account, a shared car will be vandalised and filthied.
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