RE: Mountune Fiesta ST gets 235hp

RE: Mountune Fiesta ST gets 235hp

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Jon_S_Rally

3,406 posts

88 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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u33db said:
Granted 150k is pretty much "scrapping" mileage but the interval is 150k or 10 years.

And thats my point...you could soon go buy a decent older example on low mileage but according to age its needs a belt then you have a massive bill. I'm sure it read its something daft like literally HOURS before you even get near the belt on a strip down... madness! Ford must think the same when one comes in for warranty work...massive waste of time for them as well compared to a "conventional" design.

I also have a mechanic friend who has dismantled a few and found the belts start to fray so the 150k is likely over conservative anyway.

They're not built with longevity in mind.

This is why i got shot and bought a older design of engine, ok it might be worse on fuel but at least it can be fixed cheaply if anything did go wrong.

I really don't think you'll see many of cutting around in a decade the same way as you see something simple a like Fiesta mk6..
greenarrow said:
Interesting, I didn't know any of this and had been considering an Ecoboost engined car a few months ago, but instead settled on a shed 1.6 Zetec Focus. A quick google search just now dragged up several examples of cambelt failure on Ecoboost engines. One at 108,000 miles -quoted £1400 to change the cambelt (exclusive of any additional engine damage costs).

Ridiculous situation and as you say will scrap the car at 10 years old and 100K + miles, so I think if I end up getting a Mk7 Fiesta it may be a slightly earlier 1.6 engine model with the old fashioned n/a engine. Zetec-S or Titanium...

Cars like the ecoboost Fiesta and Focus only seem to be viable if you buy them young with a decent warranty. 60 or 70K miles on the clock? No thanks. A mechanic friend actually warned me off them tbh.

As for the MK8 Fiesta ST - bet this is a lot of fun. Just hope the ride is not as bad as it is in my wife's MK6 Fiesta ST! Sooo crashy.....
Is any of the above a surprise? Ford don't want you to be running about in a 10-year old Fiesta, or keeping it until it's done 100k miles, they want you to buy a new one every 2-3 years.

jase_llan

148 posts

57 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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greenarrow said:
Interesting, I didn't know any of this and had been considering an Ecoboost engined car a few months ago, but instead settled on a shed 1.6 Zetec Focus. A quick google search just now dragged up several examples of cambelt failure on Ecoboost engines. One at 108,000 miles -quoted £1400 to change the cambelt (exclusive of any additional engine damage costs).

Ridiculous situation and as you say will scrap the car at 10 years old and 100K + miles, so I think if I end up getting a Mk7 Fiesta it may be a slightly earlier 1.6 engine model with the old fashioned n/a engine. Zetec-S or Titanium...

Cars like the ecoboost Fiesta and Focus only seem to be viable if you buy them young with a decent warranty. 60 or 70K miles on the clock? No thanks. A mechanic friend actually warned me off them tbh.

As for the MK8 Fiesta ST - bet this is a lot of fun. Just hope the ride is not as bad as it is in my wife's MK6 Fiesta ST! Sooo crashy.....
Your wife needs the Eibach lowering springs then, the ride is actually more supple with them although big potholes are more keenly felt.

greenarrow

3,592 posts

117 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Is any of the above a surprise? Ford don't want you to be running about in a 10-year old Fiesta, or keeping it until it's done 100k miles, they want you to buy a new one every 2-3 years.
If that's true its short-sighted on their part. One of the reasons Ford have lost a lot of customers in the last ten years to the likes of BMW/Audi/VW is inferior perceived quality and reliability (not my experience I hasten to add). Any media/press stories about failing ecoboost engines that confirm those suspicions are hardly likely to win them back!

Retro_Jim

371 posts

51 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I have a Mk8 with the performance pack but whilst a bit more power would be fun I wouldn't want to jeopardise my warranty, maybe if I still had it once the warranty is over I would consider it be by that time I'd probably want something different.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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avonllahxuav said:
bobbo89 said:
There are many running around with 250-270bhp with several companies doing a lot of testing into the first hybrid turbo's which'll run around 300bhp. They're proving to be a strong engine!
None that have passed a Ford durability cycle though....
The old ST MK7 is a very tough unit, they dont seem to break and cope with over 300 bhp and beyond, hopefully the new 3 cyl version is as durable.

No reason it shouldnt be, but the previous Focus ST can be a bit fragile if tuned, only time will tell.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Retro_Jim said:
I have a Mk8 with the performance pack but whilst a bit more power would be fun I wouldn't want to jeopardise my warranty, maybe if I still had it once the warranty is over I would consider it be by that time I'd probably want something different.
Same here i have no interest in modifying mine although keeping the warranty might make that more attractive 99% of the time the car has enough power imo , I'm not a fan of fwd cars being too powerful as it's often detrimental

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Retro_Jim said:
I have a Mk8 with the performance pack but whilst a bit more power would be fun I wouldn't want to jeopardise my warranty, maybe if I still had it once the warranty is over I would consider it be by that time I'd probably want something different.
Smart move, let someone else worry the big bill for the cam belt replacement...

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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blade7 said:
Retro_Jim said:
I have a Mk8 with the performance pack but whilst a bit more power would be fun I wouldn't want to jeopardise my warranty, maybe if I still had it once the warranty is over I would consider it be by that time I'd probably want something different.
Smart move, let someone else worry the big bill for the cam belt replacement...
Cambelt change is every 10 miles or 150k iirc . Sure as hell wont be my problem

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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liner33 said:
Cambelt change is every 10 miles or 150k iirc . Sure as hell wont be my problem
10 years I think, though other manufacturers have revised down their intervals. In any case I believe it's 8 hours labour and £400+ in parts.

LimSlip

800 posts

54 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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liner33 said:
Cambelt change is every 10 miles or 150k iirc . Sure as hell wont be my problem
3 to 4 timing belts to the gallon smile