RE: More extreme Civic Type R Limited Edition launched

RE: More extreme Civic Type R Limited Edition launched

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Dblue

3,252 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Leftfootwonder said:
Commercially this is a great move for Honda as I am sure they will shift a few more now the spoiler has been removed but doesn't this just underline what a drab world we now live in. Everyone used to love the Integra, Evo, Impreza, RX-7, Skyline, even Ferrari with the F40 and F50...you get the idea....and the spoilers were all part of the show and appeal. Modern aerodynamics perhaps have taken away much of the need of a rear wing, but no one complains on a Porsche GT3/4.

The CTR is a modern Japanese icon, cut from the same cloth as the above but born into a world that no longer values or recognises idiosyncrasies of a certain manufacturer or culture and instead we all want grey boxes because we don't want to upset the neighbours or, more likely, we're too insecure to stand out. Very sad indeed.
abso,-bloody- lutely

Why are we all so so dull nowadays

macky17

2,212 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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jl4069 said:
macky17 said:
I'm 48 and a few days ago swapped my golf R for one of these - in bright red. I bloody love it! The golf was a fantastic car but this is honestly about 200% better in every way that matters if you can drive a bit. If you've yet to drive one in anger just because you think it makes you look a bit yoof then you're really missing out on something very special. Of all the cars I've owned (my garage mentions a few) only the noble m400 was a better drivers' car and the ctr beats even that for brakes, transmission and dampening. In short, the looks grow on you when you realise it can back them up.
Did your Golf make for a safer drive in the wet? Still would like to see someone do a long term test of a few great front wheel drivers vs all wheel ones. j
Certainly easier to use the power in the wet, yes. Golf a lot safer than my tvr as well. Guess which I preferred... smile

jl4069

195 posts

102 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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macky17 said:
Certainly easier to use the power in the wet, yes. Golf a lot safer than my tvr as well. Guess which I preferred... smile
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Notanotherturbo

494 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Dblue said:
Leftfootwonder said:
Commercially this is a great move for Honda as I am sure they will shift a few more now the spoiler has been removed but doesn't this just underline what a drab world we now live in. Everyone used to love the Integra, Evo, Impreza, RX-7, Skyline, even Ferrari with the F40 and F50...you get the idea....and the spoilers were all part of the show and appeal. Modern aerodynamics perhaps have taken away much of the need of a rear wing, but no one complains on a Porsche GT3/4.

The CTR is a modern Japanese icon, cut from the same cloth as the above but born into a world that no longer values or recognises idiosyncrasies of a certain manufacturer or culture and instead we all want grey boxes because we don't want to upset the neighbours or, more likely, we're too insecure to stand out. Very sad indeed.
abso,-bloody- lutely

Why are we all so so dull nowadays
But most of those cars above in standard form (with the exception of some of the Evos) were much more demure than the CTR. The normal Imprezas sold in the UK were dull as ditch water to look at, the RX7s a beautiful shape with little in the way of spoilers. Integra had a wing but not the vast array of scoops/vents etc that the CTR has. I have an R32 and it's positively subtle next to the Civic. They are too shouty for me (although I'd still consider one if I was after a hot hatch) and I'm not sure the toned down looks better with all the other aero and cooling bits still in place. Looks terrible from the back IMO without the wing but better from the side. Grey interior is much nicer.

Jaaws

170 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Limited Edition with no a/c will definitely be a hot hatch.

Court_S

12,932 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Jaaws said:
Limited Edition with no a/c will definitely be a hot hatch.
hehe

Seems a step too far to me. Can it be added back?

Edited by Court_S on Friday 21st February 07:26

Jaaws

170 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Court_S said:
:lol:

Seems a step too far to me. Can it be added back?
Well I track my FK2 and in summer it gets fecking hot with the work rate, heat soak from the engine and sun through the windscreen. OK you can open the widows but that sort of defeats the object of the exercise. I'd not enjoy it without a/c.

joedesi

107 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Been waiting for the toned down version since this car was first introduced.

So glad they’ve finally done it. Don’t mind the piped in sound either as the engine sounds a bit bland.

Finally got something to change to from my m140

Montybaber

88 posts

62 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Neither of these would tempt me out of my standard CW FK8 so a bit of a result for me, the 20s get a lot of bad press but they give a remarkably good ride (most reviews say the same)

I love the car for its originality, its just bonkers! the black seats, smaller wheels and wing just water it down a bit and I think there are many good boring hot hatch options if blending in is important to you

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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joedesi said:
Been waiting for the toned down version since this car was first introduced.

So glad they’ve finally done it. Don’t mind the piped in sound either as the engine sounds a bit bland.

Finally got something to change to from my m140
It’s actually quite noisey, the noise you hear is all natural and the noise turns heads before people have even seen it come by. I guess it definitely will sound bland compared to the 3.0 6 but so will everything else.

It’s a lot louder than a Golf R, the only thing it lacks is the exhaust pops and crackles, which is a shame as I did miss them on my one. It would have been nice if it had them in the sport mode like M140i’s.

To anybody wondering if they sound any good, do not judge how they sound by using a speaker or headphones. I liked how mine sounded especially when bouncing on the limiter in first before changing.

Edited by Chestrockwell on Thursday 20th February 22:20

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Montybaber said:
Neither of these would tempt me out of my standard CW FK8 so a bit of a result for me, the 20s get a lot of bad press but they give a remarkably good ride (most reviews say the same)

I love the car for its originality, its just bonkers! the black seats, smaller wheels and wing just water it down a bit and I think there are many good boring hot hatch options if blending in is important to you
If I still had mine, I wouldn’t be tempted either, they could do with some LED rear lights specific to the model, mine looked too similar to standard ones at night from the rear.

The wheels, hmm the ride was fine but it the thing that irritated me the most is dodging potholes and curbing them so easily with the low profile, you could get a chip on the rim just by hitting the pothole.

I would be tempted into another one if they sorted the turning circle, made the rear lights more modern and made pops and crackles like Golf R’s do on the over run but it wouldn’t be for a while, I waited until they dropped to 24 before I bought one.

Simon Owen

805 posts

134 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Do people really successfully run these things in the UK with 20” rims and such low profile boots without constant issues ?

Makes me cringe just looking at them ...


Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Simon Owen said:
Do people really successfully run these things in the UK with 20” rims and such low profile boots without constant issues ?

Makes me cringe just looking at them ...
30 profile no less, the smallest you can have!

No real problems other than them being curbed. It handles very well, it’s not crashy and it doesn’t bounce around. My 4 Series before it on 19 inch with run flats used to bounce around like hell.

The ride on the Civic is ridiculous in R+ mode but I used to drive around everywhere in comfort. Sucks up the bumps nicely. I only put it in R+ mode when I’d take a friend for a blast.

amgmcqueen

3,346 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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In terms of a drivers car......is this the best civic type r ever made?

Julian Thompson

2,543 posts

238 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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amgmcqueen said:
In terms of a drivers car......is this the best civic type r ever made?
That’s a really good question. I think the answer will be no but I’ll be interested to learn the answer...

quigonjay

640 posts

221 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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New infotainment with track app but not on the one most suited to the track as it does not have infotainment. confused

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Julian Thompson said:
amgmcqueen said:
In terms of a drivers car......is this the best civic type r ever made?
That’s a really good question. I think the answer will be no but I’ll be interested to learn the answer...
Well the magazines say it’s the best FWD car, not sure about the new Trophy R as they haven’t been tested together.

joedesi

107 posts

214 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Chestrockwell said:
It’s actually quite noisey, the noise you hear is all natural and the noise turns heads before people have even seen it come by. I guess it definitely will sound bland compared to the 3.0 6 but so will everything else.

It’s a lot louder than a Golf R, the only thing it lacks is the exhaust pops and crackles, which is a shame as I did miss them on my one. It would have been nice if it had them in the sport mode like M140i’s.

To anybody wondering if they sound any good, do not judge how they sound by using a speaker or headphones. I liked how mine sounded especially when bouncing on the limiter in first before changing.

Edited by Chestrockwell on Thursday 20th February 22:20
I hear you. My local dealer gave me one for a 48 hour test drive. Loved every minute of it. One of the best cars I’ve driven. 3 things let it down for me 1. Styling too ott for my tastes 2. Road noise on some surfaces particularly the concrete patch on m25 3. Uninspiring sound

The sport line seems to address all 3 of these. I really miss the manual.

My m140 has all the m performance bits including the exhaust and diff. Really like but don’t love it. Was thinking of going for coilovers but this is tempting me away from BMW

Mr Tidy

22,313 posts

127 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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So another minger on the Civic front from Honda that has ram-raided Demon Tweaks.

Looks f*cking terrible, and no doubt endowed with a fake farty/poppy soundtrack that will be a scrabbling mess trying to find some grip to get moving on a damp road!

I may not be a fan. laugh

Butter Face

30,299 posts

160 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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It’d probably smash a Z4M Coupe down a B round though winkhehe