RE: James Bond's Aston Martin DB5 | Driven
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Tin Hat said:
Jesus, with an upbeat spirit like that I hope that you aren’t sitting next to me in the cinema.
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
Osinjak said:
Well aren't you just a barrel of merry chuckles?
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge James Bond fan for years and stuck with the movies even through dog's dinner's like Die Another Day - that's why stuff like this is frustrating. Why do they need him to be driving a 50 year old car, worth a million quid? And why does it have gadgets? The only reason it's in there is because most of the Brosnan movies, and the last two Craig ones, seem to have been written based on the sorts of cliches that your average tabloid writer could've come up with. The direction Casino Royale was taking the franchise - and Quantum of Solace, for all its faults as a piece of cinema - was genuinely interesting, but that promise has been wasted.If you're happy for every Bond movie to follow the same gadget-laden car, must have a DB5, formula, then great. As a die-hard (no pun intended) fan, I want something more than trotting out the same things every time.
Edited by spikyone on Thursday 20th February 14:56
GTEYE said:
The original Goldfinger car was apparently bought by the film company as a standard car, converted with the various gadgets, and then after film duties were complete was returned to be reconverted back to standard production spec.
The story was that the car was then re-sold and the various modifications were then reinstated by the new owner!
Indeed. The car ended up stored in an aircraft hangar in Florida, from where it was stolen and hasn't been seen since. The story was that the car was then re-sold and the various modifications were then reinstated by the new owner!
Plenty of conspiracy theories about an insurance job and/or it ending up in the Middle East in a secret collection.
Article said:
as sharp as Erno Goldfinger's genital-threatening laser
That would be Auric Goldfinger I take it?I can only assume by using Erno, you are confusing with Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
spikyone said:
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge James Bond fan for years and stuck with the movies even through dog's dinner's like Die Another Day - that's why stuff like this is frustrating. Why do they need him to be driving a 50 year old car, worth a million quid? And why does it have gadgets? The only reason it's in there is because most of the Brosnan movies, and the last two Craig ones, seem to have been written based on the sorts of cliches that your average tabloid writer could've come up with. And the direction Casino Royale was taking the franchise - and Quantum of Solace, for all its faults as a piece of cinema - was genuinely interesting.
If you're happy for every Bond movie to follow the same gadget-laden car, must have a DB5, formula, then great. As a die-hard (no pun intended) fan, I want something more than trotting out the same formula every time.
DB5 has been the car of choice for Craig's Bond, why would it not make an appearance in his last movie? If you're happy for every Bond movie to follow the same gadget-laden car, must have a DB5, formula, then great. As a die-hard (no pun intended) fan, I want something more than trotting out the same formula every time.
They might write it out of the next Bond completely again.
spikyone said:
Tin Hat said:
Jesus, with an upbeat spirit like that I hope that you aren’t sitting next to me in the cinema.
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
Osinjak said:
Well aren't you just a barrel of merry chuckles?
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge James Bond fan for years and stuck with the movies even through dog's dinner's like Die Another Day - that's why stuff like this is frustrating. Why do they need him to be driving a 50 year old car, worth a million quid? And why does it have gadgets? The only reason it's in there is because most of the Brosnan movies, and the last two Craig ones, seem to have been written based on the sorts of cliches that your average tabloid writer could've come up with. And the direction Casino Royale was taking the franchise - and Quantum of Solace, for all its faults as a piece of cinema - was genuinely interesting.If you're happy for every Bond movie to follow the same gadget-laden car, must have a DB5, formula, then great. As a die-hard (no pun intended) fan, I want something more than trotting out the same formula every time.
As a huge fan, it's cool to see the DB5 hitching up it's skirt and going for it.
But they used the DB5 resurrection angle in Skyfall. Then it appeared in Spectre, now it's in NTTD.
Will they trot it out in every film?
I whole-heartedly approve of using the '86 V8 Vantage in the new one, which is a great idea. It would have been good (although impossible with product placement) to have him rock up in a white '77 Lotus Esprit at some point.
But I do think they should focus on doing cool new things with the new cars instead - I thought the DB10 sequence in Spectre was an excellent blend of cool stuff combined with an element of realism that was missing previously (Yes I am looking at you, Die Another Day with your disappearing Vanquish)
AJB88 said:
DB5 has been the car of choice for Craig's Bond, why would it not make an appearance in his last movie?
They might write it out of the next Bond completely again.
My point is that a) it was unnecessary in the first place, and b) it makes no sense. He's a different James Bond to Connery (in the same way that Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, and Tom Holland are not the same Spider-Man), and why would Q branch fit gadgets to an ancient car, or (alternatively) keep a piece of equipment that's 50+ years old, or (in either case) let Bond drive around in a museum piece?They might write it out of the next Bond completely again.
I know there is a discussion about him winning a DB5 in Casino Royale - and that was a nice nod to the old movies. I was fine with that. When it came back with gadgets in Skyfall, it stretched plausibility. After getting blown to a billion pieces and then re-appearing in Spectre I wanted to shake some sense into whoever thought it was a good idea.
Erno Goldfinger was an architect who, amongst other things, designed tower blocks, one in particular iirc got the goat of one Ian Fleming, who (after a very public spat) then took the architect’s last name and gave it to arguably one of his most memorable villains...
Personally any chance to see these beautiful cars in a movie is a good thing. Yes, it’s nostalgic, but it’s a British film and if you’ve got the heritage, why not take advantage of it? Not many movies can boast some of the iconic references and homages that Bond can - as long as they’re intertwined with some more contemporary then I say go for it.
Plenty of conspiracy theories about an insurance job and/or it ending up in the Middle East in a secret collection.
I can only assume by using Erno, you are confusing with Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
Personally any chance to see these beautiful cars in a movie is a good thing. Yes, it’s nostalgic, but it’s a British film and if you’ve got the heritage, why not take advantage of it? Not many movies can boast some of the iconic references and homages that Bond can - as long as they’re intertwined with some more contemporary then I say go for it.
Muzzer79 said:
GTEYE said:
The original Goldfinger car was apparently bought by the film company as a standard car, converted with the various gadgets, and then after film duties were complete was returned to be reconverted back to standard production spec.
The story was that the car was then re-sold and the various modifications were then reinstated by the new owner!
Indeed. The car ended up stored in an aircraft hangar in Florida, from where it was stolen and hasn't been seen since. The story was that the car was then re-sold and the various modifications were then reinstated by the new owner!
Plenty of conspiracy theories about an insurance job and/or it ending up in the Middle East in a secret collection.
Article said:
as sharp as Erno Goldfinger's genital-threatening laser
That would be Auric Goldfinger I take it?I can only assume by using Erno, you are confusing with Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
This. And the other thing about rehashing the same ideas to keep the fans happy. Don’t get me started on star wars.
Biggest Bond DB5 related tragedy for me remains the premise that he and M drive it from London to the scottish glens in winter, and there it is parked outside Skyfall, spotless and detailed like its on the lawn at pebble beach. I’ve never forgiven Sam Mendes for that.
Biggest Bond DB5 related tragedy for me remains the premise that he and M drive it from London to the scottish glens in winter, and there it is parked outside Skyfall, spotless and detailed like its on the lawn at pebble beach. I’ve never forgiven Sam Mendes for that.
Nostalgia is never necessary, but it’s often welcome. After the non-too-subtle product placements of the Brosnan era, the increased use of the DB5 has had an almost cleansing effect.
Through several of the books and film, Bond is acknowledged as a vintage and classic car enthusiast. It seems very fitting for him to drive. Cameos here and there in films with other more modern cars interspersed with more prominent roles every so often seems like the right balance to me.
I even find the whole convoluted back story amusing. Was it issued to him new? Did he win it in a card game? Is it gadget laden government property, or an ex-company car now privately owned? I’m glad that writers don’t get bogged with such things as it would spoil the fun of using this wonderful car.
Love the V8 too.
Through several of the books and film, Bond is acknowledged as a vintage and classic car enthusiast. It seems very fitting for him to drive. Cameos here and there in films with other more modern cars interspersed with more prominent roles every so often seems like the right balance to me.
I even find the whole convoluted back story amusing. Was it issued to him new? Did he win it in a card game? Is it gadget laden government property, or an ex-company car now privately owned? I’m glad that writers don’t get bogged with such things as it would spoil the fun of using this wonderful car.
Love the V8 too.
Muzzer79 said:
I whole-heartedly approve of using the '86 V8 Vantage in the new one, which is a great idea. It would have been good (although impossible with product placement) to have him rock up in a white '77 Lotus Esprit at some point.
Given how totalled the DB5 was at the start of Spectre, I was hoping at the end he would rock up in the Esprit on the basis that the DB5 would take an age to get back in working order.spikyone said:
Tin Hat said:
Jesus, with an upbeat spirit like that I hope that you aren’t sitting next to me in the cinema.
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
I can’t wait to see it, the trailer looks fantastic, nicely written article too!
Osinjak said:
Well aren't you just a barrel of merry chuckles?
Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge James Bond fan for years and stuck with the movies even through dog's dinner's like Die Another Day - that's why stuff like this is frustrating. Why do they need him to be driving a 50 year old car, worth a million quid? And why does it have gadgets? The only reason it's in there is because most of the Brosnan movies, and the last two Craig ones, seem to have been written based on the sorts of cliches that your average tabloid writer could've come up with. The direction Casino Royale was taking the franchise - and Quantum of Solace, for all its faults as a piece of cinema - was genuinely interesting, but that promise has been wasted.If you're happy for every Bond movie to follow the same gadget-laden car, must have a DB5, formula, then great. As a die-hard (no pun intended) fan, I want something more than trotting out the same things every time.
Edited by spikyone on Thursday 20th February 14:56
spikyone said:
That's a lot of trouble to go to for an unnecessary and incongruous movie car. I'll inevitably end up seeing it soon after it's released, but it's pretty depressing that we've gone from the gritty, literary-inspired Bond of Casino Royale to the Bond-by-numbers of Skyfall, Spectre, and now this. They need to just give it a bloody rest with the DB5.
Yes, let’s all forget all the deeply beautiful cars of the world and get ready for EV 
Cold said:
Are some confusing James Bond with a documentary?
Exactly. It's just a bloody film. If it keeps you entertained for a couple of hours then it's done its job. None of them are realistic and very few are close to the original books. On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the closest and it was widely derided.
As for the cars, I'd like the 80s one please.
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