RE: Czinger 21C revealed in full

[Robert Clayton]

Love the picture of the bloke with the surf board approaching the car - where the hell is he going to store that!!!

[RacerMike]

Just watched the TopGear video. Nice to see something that looks production viable for a change! Lights in the right places that look like they actually pass legals, properly designed suspension and not a small block V8 in sight!

I strongly assume this is a lead project to demonstrate the company’s primary business, which I assume is productionised additive manufacture, and AI based design tools, and it’s fascinating to see someone like this with the vision and money to really push the technology. It’s stuff like this that genuinely does make OEMs consider new manufacturing processes.

Seems to run from the promo videos, and the engine sounds pretty cool....it fits the motorbike theme for sure!

[vincegail]

25 Track cars and 65 roadlegal ones totals 90 cars, not 80.

[jeremyc]

RacerMike said:

I strongly assume this is a lead project to demonstrate the company’s primary business, which I assume is productionised additive manufacture, and AI based design tools, and it’s fascinating to see someone like this with the vision and money to really push the technology. It’s stuff like this that genuinely does make OEMs consider new manufacturing processes.

Divergent 3D is the company behind it.

[MDL111]

fascinating, if I had the money, I'd most likely be on the phone to them
Didn't like the look of it in the pictures, but in the video it looks very cool

[robinessex]

Reminds me of this :-

Yamaha OX99-11

[redroadster]

How many millions is it going to be ? Can't make my mind up which to buy so much choice and I've only a one car drive .

[ate one too]

1.7 million USD

[Andy83n]

CrunkleFloop said:

The photos look like they were inspired by GTA-V and the name "Zinger" is definitely inspired by GTA.

Are Rockstar a major investor per chance?

I'll stick with my Krieger for now...

[PhantomPH]

The little boy in me absolutely LOVES this angle. That's a bedroom wall poster right there:

[Stig]

Don1 said:

As I know who did the shots, must have been an interesting time for him to fly to California and photoshop them there...

Me too

[Gary Woodland]

Everyone knows George Williams it's not a small secret club haha.

That surfboard pic is the funniest bit of marketing I've seen for a car in a while.

[WCZ]

looks great, wonder if it'll actually be good dynamically?

certainly seems influence by the chiron in terms of styling!

[morgs_]

Arsecati said:

When this was first unveiled, all I went was 'yawn, not another one'. But I've literally just watched the TG video on it, which was only uploaded an hour or so ago.........

............ holy. sweet. jaysus!

This is legit - and I am more than happy to stand not only corrected, but upright gormless with my gob on the floor!!

Wow!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCto6qSjIXw

Thanks for the video link, confirms the two seater as well. Looks a little...challenging getting into the back

PhantomPH said:

The little boy in me absolutely LOVES this angle. That's a bedroom wall poster right there:

The more I look at this the more I like it. That side shot is the best bit for me, agreed that photo is fantastic.

[Oily76]

vincegail said:

25 Track cars and 65 roadlegal ones totals 90 cars, not 80.

Ah, you see... because they make their max power at different RPM you can't just add them together

[J2daG1990]

boringbeige said:

Looks like it only has a single seat. So it's pointless. Why buy a very expensive car that you can't take a mate out in, or your girl out in, or share the experience. Same mistake BAC made, it's why you don't see Mono s knocking about.

Erm...no. The BAC Mono is supposed to be like an F1 car for the road. The reason you don't see so many of them knocking about is because of the price tag and the weather/roads in UK.

[LotusOmega375D]

Czinger, Stinger, Singer, er Minger?

[robinessex]

The suspension components have been created by FEA Topology Optimization. This basically consists of starting with a computer model of a chunk of material, applying restraints on it in the places they occur, then apply all the know loads on the places they occur. This could be many separate load cases The program will then repeatedly 'load the model', removing areas with low-stress regions, and keep this up until it converges on a solution. I have used this, it works, but use WITH CAUTION. It's capable of producing a structure that will take, theoretically, all the designed loads, but still not be OK for actual use. If you want to see it in action:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYhOhYffyNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2iMt-FB5s

[lotuslover69]

Uses 3d printed components in its chassis, still costs 1.7million though. I believe this company was on jay leno at osme point as this car is very similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPv7PwS50OE

[Krikkit]

robinessex said:

The suspension components have been created by FEA Topology Optimization. This basically consists of starting with a computer model of a chunk of material, applying restraints on it in the places they occur, then apply all the know loads on the places they occur. This could be many separate load cases The program will then repeatedly 'load the model', removing areas with low-stress regions, and keep this up until it converges on a solution. I have used this, it works, but use WITH CAUTION. It's capable of producing a structure that will take, theoretically, all the designed loads, but still not be OK for actual use. If you want to see it in action:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYhOhYffyNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2iMt-FB5s

Out of interest, where does it fall down? I assume it's the number of load cases you can provide and material differences?

3D printing of hollow section shapes is really interesting tech, and I think it'll definitely be the future once the costs start coming down.

Edited by Krikkit on Friday 21st February 16:41