Unexpected thirsty cars.
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Cbull said:
BMW F10 2.0D. They say 60+ mpg combined I get just less than 40, 44 if plenty of motorway mileage is on the commute.
I later found Honest Johns website which has true numbers there.
We've got an F54 MINI Clubman with the same B47 engine and it's been pretty much what I'd expected economy-wise. Not better or worse, just about what I'd expect. 50 ish day to day, 60 ish on a run. Probably a good 350 kg lighter than an F10 though, and it's detuned by 40 brake or so compared to yours.I later found Honest Johns website which has true numbers there.
amoeba said:
Range Rover TDV8, I think ~2005. 27mpg on a 40 miles motorway commute, and it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
In comparison my supercharged v8 Jag (S-type R) does 25 mpg on the same commute.
27mpg from a Range Rover should be counted as unexpectedly frugal, I thinkIn comparison my supercharged v8 Jag (S-type R) does 25 mpg on the same commute.
Shappers24 said:
Renault Clio with the 0.9 turbo engine; had two of them as hire cars several months apart and same issues with both
Only had a 5 speed box, and driving at 70 on the motorway saw it barely break 30mpg. Hateful cars.
My wife has a Dacia Logan with the exact same engine and it returns 45-48mpg on a motorway run with her driving (almost never above an indicated 70). Even I got it in the low 40's with a somewhat higher cruising speed.Only had a 5 speed box, and driving at 70 on the motorway saw it barely break 30mpg. Hateful cars.
I know this isn't particularly unexpected but after all the talk of how terrible on fuel the Brera V6 was, I was cautiously optimistic that I could eek out a bit better than the high teens very low 20s I'd heard thrown about, as I have a fairly sedate commute and am used to eeking mpg out of big engines, certainly the GTV V6 I managed over 30mpg over a tank on a far worse commute (B roads and much more sitting in traffic) despite that having a similar reputation for thirst.
Anyway, average generally worked out around 23mpg, which all things considered, and for 230 ish bhp, was a bit of a surprise. It really needed a longer 6th gear for a start, but either way, was surprised that it really was as terrible as described.
The 5.7 V8 that's replaced it on the same commute manages 21mpg despite going through a slushy auto box and producing far more power, so I echo the above, if you want economy, get a big V8
Anyway, average generally worked out around 23mpg, which all things considered, and for 230 ish bhp, was a bit of a surprise. It really needed a longer 6th gear for a start, but either way, was surprised that it really was as terrible as described.
The 5.7 V8 that's replaced it on the same commute manages 21mpg despite going through a slushy auto box and producing far more power, so I echo the above, if you want economy, get a big V8
Aiminghigh123 said:
Aygo at motorway speed or above are shocking.
Had one as a hire car drove 200 miles purely motorway sat at 75-85. Mpg was 32. My 2003 9-3 aero does nearly 40mpg at similar speeds.
Yeah, Aygo is a great example of buying the right car for the job. Had one as a hire car drove 200 miles purely motorway sat at 75-85. Mpg was 32. My 2003 9-3 aero does nearly 40mpg at similar speeds.
On holiday in Mallorca our hire car returned 58mpg over the two weeks.
I got home and decided to buy one as a run around, bought a new Aygo Black hung over, however, the reality was back home they are not set up for anything other than city driving.
Sit at 40mph and it will do 65mpg, 50mpg sees that drop to 40mpg, get up to 75mph and it is struggling to get much above 30mpg.
In comparison our 3.5 litre V6 E350 7 seater petrol estate with 306hp would do 38mpg over 200 miles sat at 85mph.
That Polo is probably the same as the Aygo, set up for city work rather than sat on the motorway.
Nearly every diesel I have owned since the 1.9tdi A4 (90hp, none of that flashy 110hp nonsese) has disappointed in all honesty. The exception to that is the 2013 X3 we had, 20d xdrive auto that averaged 42mpg, which seems quite good.
When I started using the M3 CSL as a daily for 3 months that was impressive, I managed 36mpg over a tankful 2 or 3 times. It was seeing around 19-21mpg before when I was just using it occasionally.
2008 330i, N53 straight six returned 38mpg, and the 4cyl 328i auto returned 44mpg, which again was impressive to me, my 520d F11 only just manages that.
M1C said:
CDB1983 said:
I was unfortunate enough to have a rental fabia 1.2 htp a few years ago to drive from Bydgoszcz to Gdansk, at 180kph the thing absolutely hammered fuel whilst sounding like a cement mixer. (3 cylinder job I think) It barely cracked 20mpg.
But what else did you expect? Thats 111mph! A 1.2 doing 111mph will be screaming! 20mpg is therefore expected.Edited by M1C on Tuesday 25th February 17:11
Edited by M1C on Tuesday 25th February 17:12
I've been moving VW Transporter vans around for a local company for the past 6/7 years.
The euro 5's easily did 40mpg on a decent run.
The newer euro 6's are awful, prob nearer 30mpg.
Not sure what's happened to them.
Anyone?
And many of them run rough for the first half a mile, brand new vans!!
The euro 5's easily did 40mpg on a decent run.
The newer euro 6's are awful, prob nearer 30mpg.
Not sure what's happened to them.
Anyone?
And many of them run rough for the first half a mile, brand new vans!!
Trevor555 said:
I've been moving VW Transporter vans around for a local company for the past 6/7 years.
The euro 5's easily did 40mpg on a decent run.
The newer euro 6's are awful, prob nearer 30mpg.
Not sure what's happened to them.
Anyone?
And many of them run rough for the first half a mile, brand new vans!!
The clue is in the lack of soot they are spewing out. The euro 5's easily did 40mpg on a decent run.
The newer euro 6's are awful, prob nearer 30mpg.
Not sure what's happened to them.
Anyone?
And many of them run rough for the first half a mile, brand new vans!!
stargazer30 said:
My old mk2 focus ST. 220bhp, 5 pot. If I drove it like I stole it, it did 19mpg. If I drove it like a granny it did 21mpg! 
I had a fuel card and between tyres and petrol I think I bankrupt the company.
The mk2 RS was better on fuel by all accounts than the ST, despite all the extra grunt. Something to do with the turbo spooling up at higher RPM. I had a fuel card and between tyres and petrol I think I bankrupt the company.
HughG said:
2014 Skoda Superb estate 2.0TDi 140 DSG. 30mpg around town, 40mpg on a gentle run. 35-36mpg with the cruise control at 78.
The Passat before it with the 170ps version of the same engine, albeit manual, was 15-20mpg better on a run.
I bought a 2009 A4 2.0tdi Avant couple of weeks back to get me out of a pickle. The super efficient 120hp manual version, it is actually quite a nice car, but the MPG is pants, 34mpg round town and 40 on a run. The Passat before it with the 170ps version of the same engine, albeit manual, was 15-20mpg better on a run.
I was think it would be 45-50 all day long.
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