RE: Order books open for all-new Defender 90
Discussion
oilit said:
The frightening thing is that in 1995 and 1998 I was buying new Range Rover Petrols for ~£40k - now you can't even get a Defender for that money...
Well prices double approximately every 20 years (inflation), which means your Range Rovers would now be around £85k - pretty much spot on I think. What did a Defender cost in 1995? Perhaps more relevant, what did a Disco 1 cost in 1995, as this is much closer to that in concept?
Edit to add: Parker’s reckon a 1989-1998 Disco cost £17-33k (https://www.parkers.co.uk/land-rover/discovery/station-wagon-1989/used-review/) so pricing looks pretty similar barring the absolute top spec.
Edited by Afrita on Wednesday 26th February 09:03
lowdrag said:
The staple use of a Land Rover is,well, just what the name says. About as basic as a 2CV, needing few tools to repair on the farm. And that is the point; a Defender was designed for off-road use, not the Kings Road. I can just see a farmer, his boots covered in slurry, climbing aboard this new version - and then hosing it out in the farm yard later on. Not. So once again I guess that Toyota and others will be rubbing their hands and looking forward to a boost in orders.
Snore.I've been holidaying in the Highlands and Islands (I even went to Pembrokeshire once) for the last ten years and cannot recall ever once seeing a Defender being used on a farm, all I've ever seen are Japanese 4x4s with the odd Ford thrown in. Around where I live there's a huge shooting community who mostly haul their gundogs around in Discoverys.
Your misty-eyed recollections are somewhat out of date.
Numeric said:
I find the restricted view through some privacy glass can make me feel a little nauseous - I imagine with small children who can't see out this might become a bit of 'Vomit Comet' if that very strange styling feature on the rear window can't be deleted?
Irrelevant - they'll be glued to iPads / DVD screens.Numeric said:
I find the restricted view through some privacy glass can make me feel a little nauseus - I imagine with small children who can't see out this might become a bit of 'Vomit Comet' if that very strange styling feature on the rear wi8ndow can't be deleted?
Looks to me like some strange late addition to cover something up - like a structural area of some sort - used to be common to see such things on the bottom of c-pillars as on the W123 or XJ40 where a little styled cover was placed over a big fat weld line.
Just found this from Autocar:Looks to me like some strange late addition to cover something up - like a structural area of some sort - used to be common to see such things on the bottom of c-pillars as on the W123 or XJ40 where a little styled cover was placed over a big fat weld line.
"The square panel that sits in the rear glass is a design flourish that buyers can spec on or off"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-la...
k about hosing the interior out 
NGK210 said:
When the gear shifter is moved left into manual/sport mode, it has the proper configuration: pull for up-shifts, push for down-shifts 
Audi and VW, among others, kindly note the correct format: pull-push, not push-pull
Totally agree with you there. I never understand why VW Group do that? Maybe they apeal to those who just can't get their little heads around `Pull down` is change up, and visa versa.Audi and VW, among others, kindly note the correct format: pull-push, not push-pull
Has put me off Audi's now, as they've killed off the manual in anything sporty, and the manual gearshift on the DSG is backwards. Moved to BMW now, as their box is the right way round. Even if it's all a but numb to use.
But back to the Landy 90. I think this car looks fantastic. My spec would be that matt green paint, but with the white steel wheels.
C.MW said:
If I was a diehard off road fan, I'd rather get a Suzuki Jimmny, revered just as much as one of the best off roaders at less than half the price. But, most who buy these would be city dwellers I guess, which wasn't the case with the previous gen model.
Other than city dwellers and "expedition types" nobody was buying the previous gen in this century either. [a handful of legacy utility and military contracts excluded]Also, I have seen a number of new Jimny's now which I absolutely love. Not a single one of them had any road dirt on them, let alone any signs of intended off-roading. All driven in town or on the school run as a trendy accessory in the same way a Fiat 500 or Mini is. And nothing wrong with that. It's still a cool car that puts a smile on people's faces.
It's nice that both the new Defender and Jimny are cars with great capability off-road, yet still manage to have a much wider appeal to those who don't need anywhere near the levels of that off-road capability (which I think is 99% of us).
Muzzer79 said:
I think it looks great
The notion that farmers will buy one and use it around the land is laughable - farmers haven't used Defenders for years and years.
Quite a few of them still do but with so much plastic on display I can't see a new Defender being used in the same way. Old Defenders wear battle scars well and parts can be replaced cheaply. That will not apply to the new one. I haven't seen one in the flesh but there seems to be a lot of bodywork that can get mangled - there aren't any metal bumpers that I can see unless some of that "plastic" is actually metalThe notion that farmers will buy one and use it around the land is laughable - farmers haven't used Defenders for years and years.
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