RE: Jaguar F-Type | PH Used Buying Guide

RE: Jaguar F-Type | PH Used Buying Guide

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NGK210

1,005 posts

98 months

Monday 9th March
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85Carrera said:
NGK210 said:
”All that glisters...” Lovely car, shame about the reliability and the poor quality components. Which suggests Tata must have a very cynical business model that‘s focused on cost-cutting.
Glistens, not glisters, but was there a point to your post? If so, perhaps you could make it clearly rather than misquoting simply Shakespeare.
Top marks for spotting Shakespeare, but in your haste to be scathing you’ve tripped over a popular misconception, allow me to clarify:
“The original editions of The Merchant of Venice, 1596, have the line as, 'All that glisters is not gold.'”
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/all-that-glitt...
And it seems that modern versions have adopted ‘glitters’, not your suggested ‘glistens’.
Also, for clarity you might want to rearrange the order of the final three words in your last sentence: “...misquoting simply Shakespeare.” (Although, ‘Simply Shakespeare’ would be a great name for a gift shop in Stratford-upon-Avon.)

drpep

1,356 posts

121 months

Monday 9th March
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NGK210 said:
85Carrera said:
NGK210 said:
”All that glisters...” Lovely car, shame about the reliability and the poor quality components. Which suggests Tata must have a very cynical business model that‘s focused on cost-cutting.
Glistens, not glisters, but was there a point to your post? If so, perhaps you could make it clearly rather than misquoting simply Shakespeare.
Top marks for spotting Shakespeare, but in your haste to be scathing you’ve tripped over a popular misconception, allow me to clarify:
“The original editions of The Merchant of Venice, 1596, have the line as, 'All that glisters is not gold.'”
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/all-that-glitt...
And it seems that modern versions have adopted ‘glitters’, not your suggested ‘glistens’.
Also, for clarity you might want to rearrange the order of the final three words in your last sentence: “...misquoting simply Shakespeare.” (Although, ‘Simply Shakespeare’ would be a great name for a gift shop in Stratford-upon-Avon.)
hehe This thread is gold, figuratively of course. hehe

LucyP

323 posts

12 months

Monday 9th March
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The problem with the F-Type is that it has always been a bodge job. They saw the Porsche success. The XK was a typical old man, gin and Jag, trip to the golf club car, and they needed something more sporty and to attract a younger market. The problem was that they had no money, and so all they could do was cut down the XK platform, which is why the F-Type is too wide and too heavy and the boot on the convertible is just ridiculous. Any Ferrari has more boot space. And the price was ridiculous. Priced like a 911 with the space of a Boxster. And younger market to Jaguar meant a blaring exhaust and that embarrassing racket on start-up, as if they were trying to tempt a chav - straight from a Corsa with a drain-pipe sized, similarly blaring exhaust.

And then they fell into the Aston-Martin trap of changing the specification and the badging every 5 minutes.

And in true Jaguar style, because it was a low volume car and because there was no money, it wasn't reliable. The panel fit has been talked about often, and the answer seems to be - it will do for a low volume car and it isn't worth fixing for the same reason. Imagine Porsche saying that! Hence the fact that except for 2 years, a long time ago, in the US, it was outsold by Porsche.




Gio G

2,378 posts

162 months

Monday 9th March
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A neighbour down the road has the V8 R version, you know when he is starting it up, just sounds glorious.. problem is he gives it beans straight after, which could be killing that engine...

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SweptVolume

499 posts

46 months

Monday 9th March
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I'm surprised nobody's picked up on the "based on a 1997 XK8" bit.

The F-Type was based on a shortened XK (X150) platform, which was entirely new in 2006 (or possibly had some relation to the X350 from 2003, but was nevertheless cutting edge stuff at the time).

The older X100 XK8 platform was based on a modified XJS platform, and was pretty dated even in 1997.

cerb4.5lee

14,698 posts

133 months

Monday 9th March
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I love the F-Type and in many ways they remind me of a TVR(only a very heavy one). They look and sound great...but they have the potential to be a complete nightmare to own. I still want one though. smokin

jl34

413 posts

190 months

Monday 9th March
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I owned a v8s convertible. Totally wonderful experience and faultless in my ownership. The V8 engine had so much character it just made me laugh out loud every time I drove it. will have another one, one day.

Venisonpie

681 posts

35 months

Monday 9th March
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It seems those who have owned them loved them, those knocking them are providing cliched anecdotal objections?

redroadster

1,084 posts

185 months

Monday 9th March
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£17.000 at auctions what a car for the money .

markcoopers

341 posts

146 months

Monday 9th March
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To my mind Jag filled the gap left by TVR with the F type......all be it with a little gap in the time line and an escalation in price. Used these really do fill that same desire hole and perhaps just as closely on the reliability front.... (i own an older TVR, i can make reliability jokes).

Circa £30k for a V8 with 540bhp is mighty tempting, shame the R8 is also here.

w824gb3

212 posts

175 months

Monday 9th March
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Venisonpie said:
It seems those who have owned them loved them, those knocking them are providing cliched anecdotal objections?
Just what i was thinking. I'm an owner of a 2016 v6 Coupe & its fantastic. No issues. Every drive is an event.

piquet

533 posts

210 months

Monday 9th March
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i'm now monitoring the classified for the right svr, loved them from when they came out, coupe looks better but still want the rag top

breezer_42

19 posts

28 months

Monday 9th March
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What was the frequency of engine failure for the V6? I’d love one, but having just been stuck with a high 4 figure bill for my XFR I’m not sure I could face giving Jag another chance when there’s a known issue.

funbobby

1,456 posts

211 months

Monday 9th March
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My partner has had hers for 4 years , never had a problem with it

JxJ Jr.

430 posts

23 months

Monday 9th March
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Venisonpie said:
It seems those who have owned them loved them, those knocking them are providing cliched anecdotal objections?
Perhaps they have Stockholm Syndrome. And while objections may be anecdotal, so are the comments of support.

FtypeRmeister

21 posts

88 months

Monday 9th March
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Let me add another anecdote or two...
I ran a v6 and a v8 after 6 Porsche cars.Both were reliable and had a great sense of occasion. The v8 was quick, and quite a handful. I remember a great afternoon with a Caterham 620 for company at Bedford autodrome and also a dash from the Swiss border to Aachen in the company of a Ferrari California. On both occasions it acquitted itself well.
amongst the 6 Porsche cars, which included a 993, 997 and a 996 there was much to like, but like the F Types, a few problems - the 996 wasn’t the best!
I’d have an F Type again, but the article highlights the paint issues and rusty underside - both of which I found disappointing.
They look like terrific value now and the coupe with the rather reasonable 5 piece fitted luggage could be a great buy!

JurassicF

425 posts

148 months

Monday 9th March
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unsprung said:
The coupe is lovely imo.

Is there an aftermarket for these cars? Suspension upgrades? Pulley for the supercharged V8? Maybe an exhaust manifold (headers) and tune for the V6? Or are these sorts of changes simply not the done thing?
Yes, yes, yes and no they are.

JurassicF

425 posts

148 months

Monday 9th March
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Venisonpie said:
It seems those who have owned them loved them, those knocking them are providing cliched anecdotal objections?
This👍

JurassicF

425 posts

148 months

Monday 9th March
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The tailored 5 piece luggage set also fits the convertible, just. And can be had for around £100 on a certain auction site and is nicely made and branded.
Makes weeks away quite acceptable, for HWMBO. I just rotate my undies.

JurassicF

425 posts

148 months

Monday 9th March
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breezer_42 said:
What was the frequency of engine failure for the V6? I’d love one, but having just been stuck with a high 4 figure bill for my XFR I’m not sure I could face giving Jag another chance when there’s a known issue.
Never heard of one on the F Type forum and forums always highlight the worst case scenarios i.e. IMS on Porsche engines.