RE: Jaguar F-Type | PH Used Buying Guide
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85Carrera said:
NGK210 said:
”All that glisters...” Lovely car, shame about the reliability and the poor quality components. Which suggests Tata must have a very cynical business model that‘s focused on cost-cutting.
Glistens, not glisters, but was there a point to your post? If so, perhaps you could make it clearly rather than misquoting simply Shakespeare.“The original editions of The Merchant of Venice, 1596, have the line as, 'All that glisters is not gold.'”
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/all-that-glitt...
And it seems that modern versions have adopted ‘glitters’, not your suggested ‘glistens’.
Also, for clarity you might want to rearrange the order of the final three words in your last sentence: “...misquoting simply Shakespeare.” (Although, ‘Simply Shakespeare’ would be a great name for a gift shop in Stratford-upon-Avon.)
NGK210 said:
85Carrera said:
NGK210 said:
”All that glisters...” Lovely car, shame about the reliability and the poor quality components. Which suggests Tata must have a very cynical business model that‘s focused on cost-cutting.
Glistens, not glisters, but was there a point to your post? If so, perhaps you could make it clearly rather than misquoting simply Shakespeare.“The original editions of The Merchant of Venice, 1596, have the line as, 'All that glisters is not gold.'”
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/all-that-glitt...
And it seems that modern versions have adopted ‘glitters’, not your suggested ‘glistens’.
Also, for clarity you might want to rearrange the order of the final three words in your last sentence: “...misquoting simply Shakespeare.” (Although, ‘Simply Shakespeare’ would be a great name for a gift shop in Stratford-upon-Avon.)
This thread is gold, figuratively of course. The problem with the F-Type is that it has always been a bodge job. They saw the Porsche success. The XK was a typical old man, gin and Jag, trip to the golf club car, and they needed something more sporty and to attract a younger market. The problem was that they had no money, and so all they could do was cut down the XK platform, which is why the F-Type is too wide and too heavy and the boot on the convertible is just ridiculous. Any Ferrari has more boot space. And the price was ridiculous. Priced like a 911 with the space of a Boxster. And younger market to Jaguar meant a blaring exhaust and that embarrassing racket on start-up, as if they were trying to tempt a chav - straight from a Corsa with a drain-pipe sized, similarly blaring exhaust.
And then they fell into the Aston-Martin trap of changing the specification and the badging every 5 minutes.
And in true Jaguar style, because it was a low volume car and because there was no money, it wasn't reliable. The panel fit has been talked about often, and the answer seems to be - it will do for a low volume car and it isn't worth fixing for the same reason. Imagine Porsche saying that! Hence the fact that except for 2 years, a long time ago, in the US, it was outsold by Porsche.
And then they fell into the Aston-Martin trap of changing the specification and the badging every 5 minutes.
And in true Jaguar style, because it was a low volume car and because there was no money, it wasn't reliable. The panel fit has been talked about often, and the answer seems to be - it will do for a low volume car and it isn't worth fixing for the same reason. Imagine Porsche saying that! Hence the fact that except for 2 years, a long time ago, in the US, it was outsold by Porsche.
I'm surprised nobody's picked up on the "based on a 1997 XK8" bit.
The F-Type was based on a shortened XK (X150) platform, which was entirely new in 2006 (or possibly had some relation to the X350 from 2003, but was nevertheless cutting edge stuff at the time).
The older X100 XK8 platform was based on a modified XJS platform, and was pretty dated even in 1997.
The F-Type was based on a shortened XK (X150) platform, which was entirely new in 2006 (or possibly had some relation to the X350 from 2003, but was nevertheless cutting edge stuff at the time).
The older X100 XK8 platform was based on a modified XJS platform, and was pretty dated even in 1997.
To my mind Jag filled the gap left by TVR with the F type......all be it with a little gap in the time line and an escalation in price. Used these really do fill that same desire hole and perhaps just as closely on the reliability front.... (i own an older TVR, i can make reliability jokes).
Circa £30k for a V8 with 540bhp is mighty tempting, shame the R8 is also here.
Circa £30k for a V8 with 540bhp is mighty tempting, shame the R8 is also here.
Let me add another anecdote or two...
I ran a v6 and a v8 after 6 Porsche cars.Both were reliable and had a great sense of occasion. The v8 was quick, and quite a handful. I remember a great afternoon with a Caterham 620 for company at Bedford autodrome and also a dash from the Swiss border to Aachen in the company of a Ferrari California. On both occasions it acquitted itself well.
amongst the 6 Porsche cars, which included a 993, 997 and a 996 there was much to like, but like the F Types, a few problems - the 996 wasn’t the best!
I’d have an F Type again, but the article highlights the paint issues and rusty underside - both of which I found disappointing.
They look like terrific value now and the coupe with the rather reasonable 5 piece fitted luggage could be a great buy!
I ran a v6 and a v8 after 6 Porsche cars.Both were reliable and had a great sense of occasion. The v8 was quick, and quite a handful. I remember a great afternoon with a Caterham 620 for company at Bedford autodrome and also a dash from the Swiss border to Aachen in the company of a Ferrari California. On both occasions it acquitted itself well.
amongst the 6 Porsche cars, which included a 993, 997 and a 996 there was much to like, but like the F Types, a few problems - the 996 wasn’t the best!
I’d have an F Type again, but the article highlights the paint issues and rusty underside - both of which I found disappointing.
They look like terrific value now and the coupe with the rather reasonable 5 piece fitted luggage could be a great buy!
breezer_42 said:
What was the frequency of engine failure for the V6? I’d love one, but having just been stuck with a high 4 figure bill for my XFR I’m not sure I could face giving Jag another chance when there’s a known issue.
Never heard of one on the F Type forum and forums always highlight the worst case scenarios i.e. IMS on Porsche engines.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff