Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

Will Coronavirus hit used car prices?

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Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Anonymous-poster said:
jammy-git said:
It is against the terms of the loan, so if anyone has they're committing fraud.
Martin Lewis I think said you could use the BB loan to pay yourself a salary as Co directors were left with little or no help from the government?
Yes, you could do that with a ltd co. I've seen it commented on and discussed.


Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jammy-git said:
Ultimately you self certify when you apply and the lender assumes the information you've given is correct. I've heard of some lenders doing some further checks, but mostly not.
Yes, theres effectively a box tick to say you are applying as your business has been adversely affected.

As A/P has said they dont check whether thats by £1 or by £1,000,000.

Anonymous-poster

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Deep Thought said:
jammy-git said:
Ultimately you self certify when you apply and the lender assumes the information you've given is correct. I've heard of some lenders doing some further checks, but mostly not.
Yes, theres effectively a box tick to say you are applying as your business has been adversely affected.

As A/P has said they dont check whether thats by £1 or by £1,000,000.
The main point is that to qualify for a £50k BB loan your buisiness must turnover at least £200k.

Throttlebody

2,348 posts

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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spikeyhead said:
Anonymous-poster said:
There was 2pictures earlier in the thread of thousands of “new” cars in holding compounds?
T'was always thus, but the pictures only get rolled out when someone thinks that the world is about to end.
This is a better pic taken recently. Rammed.


Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Anonymous-poster said:
Deep Thought said:
jammy-git said:
Ultimately you self certify when you apply and the lender assumes the information you've given is correct. I've heard of some lenders doing some further checks, but mostly not.
Yes, theres effectively a box tick to say you are applying as your business has been adversely affected.

As A/P has said they dont check whether thats by £1 or by £1,000,000.
The main point is that to qualify for a £50k BB loan your buisiness must turnover at least £200k.
To qualify for the full £50K, yes.

But with less than £200K you can still get 25% of turnover.

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 5th July 19:10

Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Throttlebody said:
spikeyhead said:
Anonymous-poster said:
There was 2pictures earlier in the thread of thousands of “new” cars in holding compounds?
T'was always thus, but the pictures only get rolled out when someone thinks that the world is about to end.
This is a better pic taken recently. Rammed.

And if anyone ever wanted the "world to end" it seems to be you.

Out of curiosity, what did you expect to happen to all those new and used cars, in transit across the UK when the whole country was shut down at a days notice?



Justin Case

2,195 posts

134 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Supplies of new cars are starting to come through in greater numbers. A friend picked up his new VW SUV (no idea what it is frown ) on Friday after ordering it in February. This means that a four year old Skoda has now entered the system, which in turn is likely to result in an older VAG car taking its place in the system, although probably with an independent. Perhaps we are getting back to something like normality in the supply side at all levels, what happens to demand is now the critical factor. I am sure that all the car salesmen here will now be pulling out all the stops as it looks as if they are going to have more stock.

Disclaimer - this might be a complete misreading of the situation, but being based on one actual new car and one actual used one, it is probably more reliable than most of the posts in this thread. smile

Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Throttlebody said:
This is a better pic taken recently. Rammed.

Taken 9th June, so almost a month ago.


Butter Face

30,279 posts

160 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Deep Thought said:
Throttlebody said:
spikeyhead said:
Anonymous-poster said:
There was 2pictures earlier in the thread of thousands of “new” cars in holding compounds?
T'was always thus, but the pictures only get rolled out when someone thinks that the world is about to end.
This is a better pic taken recently. Rammed.

And if anyone ever wanted the "world to end" it seems to be you.

Out of curiosity, what did you expect to happen to all those new and used cars, in transit across the UK when the whole country was shut down at a days notice?
Yes, quite rofl

It’s almost as if people wouldn’t expect a car storage compound to have cars in it.

I drove over the bridge by Portbury docks during lockdown and there were THOUSANDS of cars. Shocker. rofl

Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Butter Face said:
Yes, quite rofl

It’s almost as if people wouldn’t expect a car storage compound to have cars in it.

I drove over the bridge by Portbury docks during lockdown and there were THOUSANDS of cars. Shocker. rofl
hehe

And taken on 9th June, so not that "recent".

But its another pic for the motor trade nay sayers to wheel out for the next 10 years to demonstrate the motor industry is on its knees.

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 5th July 19:13

Scootersp

3,154 posts

188 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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It would be interesting to know the turnover on those sites, who generally has stuff held there and if the supply issues of good quality stock are because these are low specs etc or just not released?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jammy-git said:
Ultimately you self certify when you apply and the lender assumes the information you've given is correct. I've heard of some lenders doing some further checks, but mostly not.
As soon as the government 100% underwrote the loans, the lenders didn't give a monkeys about checks.

Prior to that change, the lenders were being aholes asking for business plans etc.

spikeyhead

17,299 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Scootersp said:
It would be interesting to know the turnover on those sites, who generally has stuff held there and if the supply issues of good quality stock are because these are low specs etc or just not released?
I used to go to Upper Heyford once a week to pick up Black Horse ex lease cars when they used to auction them off themselves. They'd turn over an entire runways worth every week.

the seeker

55 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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I have a Tiguan 2013 65000 miles average condition 2.0 4motion in white - cloth interior Manuel/ what sort of price could I expect in a private sale in current market conditions ? Are people trading up or down or buying as opposed to leasing ? Any info would be great thanks

RUSTILLDOWN

357 posts

68 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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the seeker said:
I have a Tiguan 2013 65000 miles average condition 2.0 4motion in white - cloth interior Manuel/ what sort of price could I expect in a private sale in current market conditions ? Are people trading up or down or buying as opposed to leasing ? Any info would be great thanks
Happy to help but can you first let me know the price of similar cars on AutoTrader?

Throttlebody

2,348 posts

54 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Thankyou4calling said:
SMMT sales figures for June 2020 out tomorrow.

223,000 sales in June 2019.

Pent up demand
Audi dealers selling 15 in a day
Dealerships “Really busy”

Who wants to guess how this will translate to actual factual?

What would be considered good?

Place your bets fellas.
It’s going to be about 145,000 for June 2020.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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jsf said:
jammy-git said:
Ultimately you self certify when you apply and the lender assumes the information you've given is correct. I've heard of some lenders doing some further checks, but mostly not.
As soon as the government 100% underwrote the loans, the lenders didn't give a monkeys about checks.

Prior to that change, the lenders were being aholes asking for business plans etc.

Fantastic opportunity for the regular career bankrupts I guess !! new motor? yeah mate tax write off init whistle

Edited by powerstroke on Monday 6th July 07:53

Butter Face

30,279 posts

160 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Throttlebody said:
Thankyou4calling said:
SMMT sales figures for June 2020 out tomorrow.

223,000 sales in June 2019.

Pent up demand
Audi dealers selling 15 in a day
Dealerships “Really busy”

Who wants to guess how this will translate to actual factual?

What would be considered good?

Place your bets fellas.
It’s going to be about 145,000 for June 2020.
Gosh, have you thought about playing the lottery? rofl Hilarious. Amazing 'prediction' there.




35% down YOY. Pretty decent really based on the very late opening of Scottish and Welsh dealerships.

Edited by Butter Face on Monday 6th July 09:19

Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Butter Face said:
Gosh, have you thought about playing the lottery? rofl Hilarious. Amazing 'prediction' there.
hehe

I did read it and think "thats a very precise number there". rolleyes



Edited by Deep Thought on Monday 6th July 09:30

Deep Thought

35,792 posts

197 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Butter Face said:
Gosh, have you thought about playing the lottery? rofl Hilarious. Amazing 'prediction' there.




35% down YOY. Pretty decent really based on the very late opening of Scottish and Welsh dealerships.
I predicted 70% +/- 10%. It came in at 65%.

I notice none of the hand wringers made any predictions at the time....
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