Coronavirus = empty roads

[Limpet]

kiethton said:

Everybody is comfortable with their own level of risk, the chances I'll take are different to others, don't like it you're welcome to stay at home.

And there is the massive hole in your logic and argument.

It isn't only YOU being subjected to an increased level of risk by you going out and about. The chances you are taking are not just with your own health or life. Far from it.

As I mentioned earlier, I found out today that a 44 year old colleague with no underlying complications is lying in an ICU bed, on a ventilator, and is in a very serious condition with this virus. Others have mild symptoms and recover without medical attention. A 21 year old girl died this week. If you infect someone else, you have no idea what their outcome will be. The way you minimise the risk is to stay at home. So how is it acceptable to do anything else?

One thing this crisis has drawn into sharp focus is just how incredibly self absorbed some people are, and how unable they are to absorb the information about how this virus is transmitted, and the potential consequences of it, and adjust their behaviour accordingly. The headline facts aren't difficult to understand. My six year old niece gets it!

Look at what's happening in Italy, and that's with a healthcare system with many times the reserve capacity of our own NHS. 7,500 people dead, who this time last month were probably going about their business as normal. And that healthcare system is now on it arse and unable to cope, meaning outcomes for others further down the chain are even less certain as basic treatment and care becomes even harder to provide.

Edited by Limpet on Thursday 26th March 13:49

[Chubbyross]

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[berlintaxi]

kiethton said:

The media have really drummed up mass hysteria really

Tell that to all the families grieving loved ones.

[Alextodrive]

TwistingMyMelon said:

Fckin hell. I cant believe that someone thinks that changing tyres on a toy car, buying ice cream and going for a beach walk are essential journeys!

Thing is, they know they aren't. Nobody is that stupid. Everybody had to go through some form of education in the UK.

They just think they're better than everyone else and the rules dont apply to them, so they come up with nonsense excuses for behaving in a way fortunately the majority of the country doesn't.

They know the risks of their actions are minimal, and they also know scaled up to 60 million people, those small risks become substantial and would continue to inadvertently spread the virus.

What amazes me, is that some people think this is all some sort of game. And I've heard nonsense like, people die all the time, the common cold kills loads of people. As if the fact that we all die eventually and there are other diseases that kill people, somehow justifies all these people that are dying from Covid-19. Like the 21 year old girl with no underlying health conditions a couple of days ago.

Truly embarrassing view to hold.

[rainmakerraw]

North Yorks Police set up road blocks to limit drivers' movements:
https://news.sky.com/story/live-560-000-volunteers...

Note it's a 'breaking news' page, yes the URL looks wrong but it's correct as of posting.

Edit: For when it inevitably falls off the bottom of the breaking news page, text is reproduced below:



North Yorkshire police are bringing in measures to stop people going outdoors

The force will be using checkpoints in the region to ask drivers if their journey is essential.

Assistant Chief Constable Mike Walker, said: "The new and significant restrictions announced by the Prime Minister on Monday evening spell out very clearly what each and every one of us must do to save lives. The message is clear and the warning stark. Stay at home, save lives.

"These are the lives of the people we know and love. Our partners, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, children, grandparents.

"You may never be in such a position again where your simple actions will lead directly to saving lives."

The force also said the checkpoints would be random and unannounced.

Edited by rainmakerraw on Thursday 26th March 14:35

[swanny71]

kiethton said:

The answer is then to just go shopping further away/near where you need to be...

I needed to get the summer tyres for the Exige so went to get them from the garage in Orpington, 6 miles away, but made sure I stopped by the offy to get a drink for that evening so I could evidence shopping.

Then after fitting the tyres, to make sure all was ok, needing to give the car a proper run and craving the pies, we drove to Morrisons in Crowborough to get them.

We're currently out of ice cream in the house, considering driving the long way to Camber/Hastings to get some this weekend. May then be able to combine it with some exercise and take a walk down the beach. If the car gets banned I'd just do the same on the push bike anyway

Tool

[Johnnytheboy]

Christ, PH is a nest of sanctimony these days.

If you must take your car out for a spin, be sure to be carrying some bags for life and be pointing vaguely towards a food shop of some sort.

[PorkInsider]

swanny71 said:

Tool

Sums it up.

[Vickers_VC10]

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[Rashman]

Interesting...
BBC were just answering people’s questions and someone asked if they could go for a drive.
The answer was basically:
If you observe the isolation advice and aren’t going to come into contact with people and it would help your sanity by getting out of the house for a drive, then it shouldn’t be a problem.

No joke.
This was just said on the BBC news while answering viewers questions.

I for one would like to go for a drive.
Car hibernates for the best part of half the year and I desperately want to take it out.

It has much fuel in it.
I would leave my house in the car, drive and then come back home.
No contact with anyone.

I honestly can’t see the problem with this.

[V8fan]

North Yorkshire police do. Starting random road checks:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...

[Boosted LS1]

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[sharepointalex]

Rashman said:

Interesting...
BBC were just answering people’s questions and someone asked if they could go for a drive.
The answer was basically:
If you observe the isolation advice and aren’t going to come into contact with people and it would help your sanity by getting out of the house for a drive, then it shouldn’t be a problem.

No joke.
This was just said on the BBC news while answering viewers questions.

I for one would like to go for a drive.
Car hibernates for the best part of half the year and I desperately want to take it out.

It has much fuel in it.
I would leave my house in the car, drive and then come back home.
No contact with anyone.

I honestly can’t see the problem with this.

BBC News on TV or radio?

A lot of conflicting opinions here from the press vs police. Completely agree the necessary vs unnecessary journeys point and being out and especially driving like a d*** means the risk of an RTA and then putting load on the NHS etc.

Maybe the BBC and the police should have a chat! This is conflicting advice and I'm not sure quoting the BBC is going to cut it if I'm out for a drive.

[sharepointalex]

To be honest I think the majority of the road blocks have come about due to people wanting to go out for spirited drives and general driving like d****s with a huge risk on the NHS load.

[Nightmare]

V8fan said:

North Yorkshire police do. Starting random road checks:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...

Which means that if he was going for a circular drive that the only point of ANY possible risk would be when he was stopped by, and spoke to, a policeman!

[ARHarh]

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[Boosted LS1]

What powers have the police got to enforce anything and would it be unlawful ifn they asserted themselves? Even they don't seem organised from force to force. I've just had a 2 hour walk around a nearby lake. Hardly saw anybody and wasn't closer then 20 yards to those who I did. Sitting in the sun was very calming and it's incredibly quiet apart from bird song. It's 3 paces to reach my car so contamination just won't happen at any time.

[psi310398]

Boosted LS1 said:

What powers have the police got to enforce anything and would it be unlawful ifn they asserted themselves? Even they don't seem organised from force to force. I've just had a 2 hour walk around a nearby lake. Hardly saw anybody and wasn't closer then 20 yards to those who I did. Sitting in the sun was very calming and it's incredibly quiet apart from bird song. It's 3 paces to reach my car so contamination just won't happen at any time.

The wording for legislation to confiscate and crush cars already exists. How long would it take to add the text to the relevant lock down regulations?

And then apply it a couple of times to the knobs who think the rules don't apply to them at a time like this? With or without the driver inside...

[Superleg48]

How clear does it have to be:

Stay at Home unless it is essential to leave the house.
Do not undertake non essential journeys.

So, fancying going for a bit of a drive fits into which of the above exactly?

Really, it is remarkable how many utter self-entitled plums spend their time working out loopholes to the most urgent request the Nation has had to fulfil in years as a collective effort to try to prevent this country descending into the same state as Italy, Spain etc.

It also appears you cannot reason with these fools, as they all know best and couldn’t give two fks about the impact their actions may have on other people, given the carefully calculated infinitesimal risk that they are so expertly positioned to assess.

I despair, I really do.

[Chubbyross]

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