Coronavirus = empty roads
Discussion
TheRainMaker said:
It’s not about the risk of the virus, what happens if you crash?
Do you really want to be in the hospital system right now?
No. However, the odds of a severe crash are lower than the chances of contracting the virus anyway and possibly lower than succumbing to it as those who sadly do almost inevitably have pre existing medical problems. Once again it’s about proportionality which has been lacking in this debate on both the Doom and Gloom side and the Devil may Care side.Do you really want to be in the hospital system right now?
My wife and I are having to totally isolate due to her chronic lung disease (COPD). I've SORNed my BMW and can use my wife's car to go to the ATM late at night when it is deserted. Other than that, not going anywhere for maybe a few months.
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Some scarily bad drivers around this weekend. Took a quick detour around Wimbledon Common and saw someone in the people carrier thing nearly crash into a Prius coming the other way. I followed it for the next kilometre or so doing 20mph in a 30mph and occasionally going right up to the edge of the road. Anyway I'm not a rush and it could be someone who's forced to drive due to self-isolation so just be careful around these 'new' drivers.
fido said:
Some scarily bad drivers around this weekend. Took a quick detour around Wimbledon Common and saw someone in the people carrier thing nearly crash into a Prius coming the other way. I followed it for the next kilometre or so doing 20mph in a 30mph and occasionally going right up to the edge of the road. Anyway I'm not a rush and it could be someone who's forced to drive due to self-isolation so just be careful around these 'new' drivers.
I've noticed more aggressive driving over the last week, I think there are a lot of worried people about venting their problems through driving. Lester H said:
No. However, the odds of a severe crash are lower than the chances of contracting the virus anyway and possibly lower than succumbing to it as those who sadly do almost inevitably have pre existing medical problems. Once again it’s about proportionality which has been lacking in this debate on both the Doom and Gloom side and the Devil may Care side.
This isnt directed at you, or anyone in particular. Just my thoughts in response to the fair point you've made on proportionality.We can't all go around in bubble wrap, taking no risks. Absolutely. Life to some extent, has to go on.
However the NHS already struggles at the best of times. If you know any nurses or doctors, pick their brains and ask them what it's normally like. I dated an intensive care nurse for 6 years, it's not a pretty picture how bad its been this past decade through austerity without this virus to deal with.
Then if you consider we have one of the lowest number of intensive care beds per 100k people in Europe, you can begin to understand why, even a relatively minor virus like this, is threatening to cripple our health system; which has a minimal capacity in intensive care as it is.
So we are being asked, or rather urged, to be cautious, to be responsible, to socially distance ourselves for the time being.
Yeah, going to the park with a few friends, isnt a big deal. Doing a track day, isnt a big deal. Going for a blast on your bike or in your car at the weekend, isnt a big deal. Usually.
But right now it is. If we all carry on as we are, the people who know better than we do, the people with the data and the science at hand are warning us we will spread the virus at an unmanageable rate. And we will have crashes and accidents that take up hospital time and possibly space, we needn't otherwise. If you can live without something for the time being, it is the responsible and moral thing to do.
And if people dont care, that says an awful lot about them, their intellect and their moral compass.
I dont doubt we'll see even more draconian measures taken soon by the government to try and protect the very people, who in large parts are too stupid to protect themselves and others.
Alextodrive said:
This isnt directed at you, or anyone in particular. Just my thoughts in response to the fair point you've made on proportionality.
We can't all go around in bubble wrap, taking no risks. Absolutely. Life to some extent, has to go on.
However the NHS already struggles at the best of times. If you know any nurses or doctors, pick their brains and ask them what it's normally like. I dated an intensive care nurse for 6 years, it's not a pretty picture how bad its been this past decade through austerity without this virus to deal with.
Then if you consider we have one of the lowest number of intensive care beds per 100k people in Europe, you can begin to understand why, even a relatively minor virus like this, is threatening to cripple our health system; which has a minimal capacity in intensive care as it is.
So we are being asked, or rather urged, to be cautious, to be responsible, to socially distance ourselves for the time being.
Yeah, going to the park with a few friends, isnt a big deal. Doing a track day, isnt a big deal. Going for a blast on your bike or in your car at the weekend, isnt a big deal. Usually.
But right now it is. If we all carry on as we are, the people who know better than we do, the people with the data and the science at hand are warning us we will spread the virus at an unmanageable rate. And we will have crashes and accidents that take up hospital time and possibly space, we needn't otherwise. If you can live without something for the time being, it is the responsible and moral thing to do.
And if people dont care, that says an awful lot about them, their intellect and their moral compass.
I dont doubt we'll see even more draconian measures taken soon by the government to try and protect the very people, who in large parts are too stupid to protect themselves and others.
Can we assume you're ordering all your food in rather than cooking at home as that's an unnecessary risk when theres a risk free alternative?We can't all go around in bubble wrap, taking no risks. Absolutely. Life to some extent, has to go on.
However the NHS already struggles at the best of times. If you know any nurses or doctors, pick their brains and ask them what it's normally like. I dated an intensive care nurse for 6 years, it's not a pretty picture how bad its been this past decade through austerity without this virus to deal with.
Then if you consider we have one of the lowest number of intensive care beds per 100k people in Europe, you can begin to understand why, even a relatively minor virus like this, is threatening to cripple our health system; which has a minimal capacity in intensive care as it is.
So we are being asked, or rather urged, to be cautious, to be responsible, to socially distance ourselves for the time being.
Yeah, going to the park with a few friends, isnt a big deal. Doing a track day, isnt a big deal. Going for a blast on your bike or in your car at the weekend, isnt a big deal. Usually.
But right now it is. If we all carry on as we are, the people who know better than we do, the people with the data and the science at hand are warning us we will spread the virus at an unmanageable rate. And we will have crashes and accidents that take up hospital time and possibly space, we needn't otherwise. If you can live without something for the time being, it is the responsible and moral thing to do.
And if people dont care, that says an awful lot about them, their intellect and their moral compass.
I dont doubt we'll see even more draconian measures taken soon by the government to try and protect the very people, who in large parts are too stupid to protect themselves and others.
More end up in hospital from cooking accidents than trackdays.
Zoobeef said:
Can we assume you're ordering all your food in rather than cooking at home as that's an unnecessary risk when theres a risk free alternative?
More end up in hospital from cooking accidents than trackdays.
Seems to me like you're just trying to be a bit clever and play devils advocate? More end up in hospital from cooking accidents than trackdays.
Is it worth me pointing out that someone still has to cook that food, deliver it on a scooter most likely and I dont know if you've considered the amount of people cooking food at home that are hospitalised compared to the amount of people doing trackdays being hospitalised, might be slightly disproportionally represented due to the amount of people doing each activity...
But there you go. I'm sure you could come up with other better more thought through examples. But I also reckon you got the general gist of my original point and you just dont like it.
OldGermanHeaps said:
A side effect of this virus is an exponential growth in preachy condescending w
kers everywhere you turn. Is there a neurological component to the symptoms of the virus?
kers everywhere you turn. Is there a neurological component to the symptoms of the virus? I suppose thats what tends to happen when people either themselves are working hard or have loved ones doing the same to save peoples live's, whilst there are a bunch of said w*****s out there continuing to behave like reckless self entitled morons.
Alextodrive said:
Seems to me like you're just trying to be a bit clever and play devils advocate?
Is it worth me pointing out that someone still has to cook that food, deliver it on a scooter most likely and I dont know if you've considered the amount of people cooking food at home that are hospitalised compared to the amount of people doing trackdays being hospitalised, might be slightly disproportionally represented due to the amount of people doing each activity...
But there you go. I'm sure you could come up with other better more thought through examples. But I also reckon you got the general gist of my original point and you just dont like it.
They are professionals doing their job. The point is, you class cooking for yourself as an acceptable risk and doing other things as not and then preach to others about what they class as an acceptable risk.Is it worth me pointing out that someone still has to cook that food, deliver it on a scooter most likely and I dont know if you've considered the amount of people cooking food at home that are hospitalised compared to the amount of people doing trackdays being hospitalised, might be slightly disproportionally represented due to the amount of people doing each activity...
But there you go. I'm sure you could come up with other better more thought through examples. But I also reckon you got the general gist of my original point and you just dont like it.
All I've seen is how self righteous the majority of people have become over all this and cant help but dictate what others should do.
Especially prevalent after that asked the pubs to close and for some reason the wider public took that as everyone had to stay at home a berated people for going outside.
How about you just use the governments own advice and isolate yourself to stay safe and leave everyone else to do what they want.
robm3 said:
Are the last few posts something to do with empty roads?
That's what the topic is about right?
Are the roads emptier and are you enjoying the quicker commute/fun drive/backlane blast etc..
I had a fantastic blatt yesterday on miles of empty roads around the countryside near me. It was mild enough for the roof down and the sun was shining, rude not too. That's what the topic is about right?
Are the roads emptier and are you enjoying the quicker commute/fun drive/backlane blast etc..
Dyl said:
Justin Case said:
Don't know about the roads, we haven't been out since Friday, but we live under the flight path going into Birmingham Airport. Normally it would be quite busy but yesterday there was only one plane all day. I didn't see it but it was sounded like the Emirates Airbus from Dubai. So far today nothing. I don't normally notice the noise, it isn't very obtrusive and only lasts for a few seconds, but now I'm finding the silence quite eerie. Does anyone who lives near a busy road find it the same?
We live under the approach into Glasgow Airport and the skies are definitely quieter. It is a clear day today and there aren't even many chemtrails 
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