RE: Alfa Romeo GTV Cup | Spotted
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TdM-GTV said:
They are great fun to drive but you do have to manhandle them a bit as they are understeer biased.
I did wonder if they might be a bit like that. The two V6 FWD Mondeos I've had often preferred to go straight on...rather than go around the corners! Regardless of the shortcomings I'd absolutely love one of these. I reckon I'd spend all day just looking at it.
Back in the early 2000’s I knew a guy who owned a specialist car sales place and they had one of these.
Took me for a ride in it and I was smitten but couldn’t get past the fact that looking through the windscreen made me realise what looking at the world through a letterbox must be like.
From the times when Alfa designed porn on wheels and it was easy to tell it was an Alfa..
Took me for a ride in it and I was smitten but couldn’t get past the fact that looking through the windscreen made me realise what looking at the world through a letterbox must be like.
From the times when Alfa designed porn on wheels and it was easy to tell it was an Alfa..
I had a 2001 GTV V6 in Meteor Grey - I absolutely loved it. Nothing sounds like the Busso V6. I’ve had many cars since then and I still think it’s the most exciting car I ever owned - I had to sell it to emigrate unfortunately :-(. Reliability wise it was fine but it liked a drink!!!
I really don’t get these. You take a bog standard GTV, stick a bit plastic on it, nothing else, and it’s worth 10 grand more than a boggo V6.
I do get the GTV, I have two V6s. Both were basket cases, bought for 3 figure sums last year. One is nearly done - bodywork was fine, but it had needed a front to back mechanical “intervention”. It now has 330 mm brakes at the front, LSD, Alfaholics handling kit, Koni shocks, new brake + fuel lines front to back, all the suspension bushes are new. It’s quite nice - though quite frankly my somewhat tweaked 156 2.5 goes round corners better. The other is rotten as a rotten thing, fist sized holes in the sills, much welding is being done.
I do get the GTV, I have two V6s. Both were basket cases, bought for 3 figure sums last year. One is nearly done - bodywork was fine, but it had needed a front to back mechanical “intervention”. It now has 330 mm brakes at the front, LSD, Alfaholics handling kit, Koni shocks, new brake + fuel lines front to back, all the suspension bushes are new. It’s quite nice - though quite frankly my somewhat tweaked 156 2.5 goes round corners better. The other is rotten as a rotten thing, fist sized holes in the sills, much welding is being done.
I had one of these beauties which was chipped to 240bhp and had a 4-branch exhaust. Quite the best sounding car I ever had (read: Griffith, GT3 and now Aston), but OMG the handling! Just like a front-drive hatch (Punto actually) with huge rubber at the back. Not a recipe for fun. You could induce oversteer with a variation on the Scandinavian Flick, but it wasn't really worth the effort (risk). I bought a 996 straight afterwards and the contrast in ride quality and handling was enormous. They still turn heads though.......
CarlosSainz100 said:
I've had two Gtvs a 3.2 Silver on Red and a Spider TS 'Nero Metallico' on tan leather
The TS spider was by far the best to own; lighter, had far more steering feel and did about 30mpg;
I found my 3.2 to be a bit of a disappointment. It rarely did anything more than 20mpg and was really nose heavy round the corners even with a Q2 fitted. For all the busso engine is lauded, on the standard exhaust it didn't sound that amazing although if you get one with the wizard exhaust fitted they sound like a mini Ferrari
I don't think there's anything different with the Cups mechanically compared to a 3.0 so you'd have to really want that body kit to pay the massive premium.
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here, but once the GTV /Alfa's went onto 3.2L V6 was it not a GM / Vauxhall V6?The TS spider was by far the best to own; lighter, had far more steering feel and did about 30mpg;
I found my 3.2 to be a bit of a disappointment. It rarely did anything more than 20mpg and was really nose heavy round the corners even with a Q2 fitted. For all the busso engine is lauded, on the standard exhaust it didn't sound that amazing although if you get one with the wizard exhaust fitted they sound like a mini Ferrari
I don't think there's anything different with the Cups mechanically compared to a 3.0 so you'd have to really want that body kit to pay the massive premium.
p4cks said:
Stock from the shelf? Or just something they had in their stock?
Back on topic, I'd love a standard one of these... black with red leather if possible!
Well, bl00dy, said! I've noticed a few journos (PH and EVO) doing this too now. Stock,Gas, Trunk etc. Should be banned from UK sites and mags! Back on topic, I'd love a standard one of these... black with red leather if possible!
Oh and the Alfa is a wonder.
I recall walking into my local Alfa main dealer showroom and finding one of these brand new, on offer for £18k. After negotiating I got it down to £16.5k!! It was a lovely thing, but even with £10k of the RRP I just couldn't convince myself (and this was a man who had just sold his TVR V8s, so new how to swallow a handful of brave pills). Basically as a new car at the time it was way past it's sell by date. It makes a far better case for itself now as a modern classic. But hey, if I'd bought it that would have been just £1500 quid depreciation in 18 years...hmmmm.
p4cks said:
Stock from the shelf? Or just something they had in their stock?
Back on topic, I'd love a standard one of these... black with red leather if possible!
good choice...My one! Back on topic, I'd love a standard one of these... black with red leather if possible!
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Edited by george123 on Tuesday 24th March 19:33
My solitary GTV experience was looking at one - and a Fiat Coupe 1.8 16v - in the same rainy day in 1997, and finding the passenger footwell of the new GTV submerged in water. I walked away from both cars, but the Fiat Coupe has always appealed more to me - 2.0 20V please.
My friend owned a GTV later (2.0 TS) and that would rate as his worst Alfa ever. Various issues, all stemming from an abusive first owner it seems.
Apart from those two lemons (oops, American term?), I'm sure they're all fine - the survivors anyhow. Rare sight now too.
My friend owned a GTV later (2.0 TS) and that would rate as his worst Alfa ever. Various issues, all stemming from an abusive first owner it seems.
Apart from those two lemons (oops, American term?), I'm sure they're all fine - the survivors anyhow. Rare sight now too.
I've had the immense pleasure to own 2 x GTV 3.0 V6's. Quite simply the best cars I've ever owned. And very reliable if looked after, 150K+ miles easily with the unstressed & well-developed (since the mid-70's) Busso V6.
However, the huge premium the Cup demands over the stock GTV V6 just isn't worth it IMO. It's basically the same car but just with different seats, cosmetic changes etc. And like previous posts have said, I reckon the standard full-leather Momo seats in the standard GTV are far superior in looks (tan or red = stunning) than the drab Cup ones. Plus I don't really like the Cup bodykit, it detracts from the purity of the original Pininfarina beauty.
You're best-off saving yourself a good few grand & getting yourself an immaculate non-Cup GTV V6 of which there are a good few, the ones that are left now are generally in pretty fine nick.
However, the huge premium the Cup demands over the stock GTV V6 just isn't worth it IMO. It's basically the same car but just with different seats, cosmetic changes etc. And like previous posts have said, I reckon the standard full-leather Momo seats in the standard GTV are far superior in looks (tan or red = stunning) than the drab Cup ones. Plus I don't really like the Cup bodykit, it detracts from the purity of the original Pininfarina beauty.
You're best-off saving yourself a good few grand & getting yourself an immaculate non-Cup GTV V6 of which there are a good few, the ones that are left now are generally in pretty fine nick.
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