RE: First details of Aston Martin's all-new V6
Discussion
Max_Torque said:
1) Yes, reasonably
2) Yes, but perhaps not how you might be expecting
;-)
Electronic turbocharger charger assistance to torque fill? Or an electronic supercharger like JLR's new engines? Although that seems less likely as that would add complexity (and weight) for this type of car I would assume, so maybe more likely on a more serial production car. 2) Yes, but perhaps not how you might be expecting
;-)
I'm surprised no one has draw parallels with the Macca V8, cold V, I know but where would we be if Macca hadn't developed their own V8 twin turbo all those years ago, Ok they had help to assemble it, But I'm sure AML have there ways.
Speaking of risky engines, what about the Gordon Murray 3.9L V12 or the koenigsegg cam-less engine
Speaking of risky engines, what about the Gordon Murray 3.9L V12 or the koenigsegg cam-less engine
chelme said:
sidesauce said:
Interesting time for this report as well as for Aston themselves - at least some of the grumpier people have one less thing to complain about as I assume this will replace the AMG lump. Looking forward to seeing what the output numbers will be too!
It's not for the purpose of satisfying the "grumpy". Its for the purpose of selling cars. I have been advocating for over 10 years, cars like these do better when they have substantively contributed by use of expertise, to develop their own engines. They get more respect for it by consumers and in the industry too. This is a wise and brave decision. If the engines perform and have character too, assuming all else is equal, the cars will sell.
Having said this, the current Vantage does in my view, also require a subtle face and bum lift... Also the interior needs to be improved...
The DB11 and the SUV look good, as do the mid engined supercars...
Edited by chelme on Tuesday 24th March 13:45
It has been some time since I've been interested in new cars and engines. These days they are much a munchness and styling piqued a long time back (the current AM's are bland, the AMV8 still looks stunning).
Engines wise, whilst it is great they are developing stuff, I cannot help but feel this is like the development of steam engines even though Diesel electrics were in service. ICE just now seems yesterdays news, the future is elsewhere and this just feels misplaced. Yes ICE will be around for a good while but the fake exhaust noises, pops, crackles, driven by ECU with little feel back from controls etc just feels meh.
Conversely, BEV's have the same lack of tactile feedback yet it works as an overall package as they are built on the promise of less driver involvement. I cannot help but feel that AM should be developing a BEV supercar as ICE is just dull in comparison
Engines wise, whilst it is great they are developing stuff, I cannot help but feel this is like the development of steam engines even though Diesel electrics were in service. ICE just now seems yesterdays news, the future is elsewhere and this just feels misplaced. Yes ICE will be around for a good while but the fake exhaust noises, pops, crackles, driven by ECU with little feel back from controls etc just feels meh.
Conversely, BEV's have the same lack of tactile feedback yet it works as an overall package as they are built on the promise of less driver involvement. I cannot help but feel that AM should be developing a BEV supercar as ICE is just dull in comparison
Max_Torque said:
Turn7 said:
Max_Torque said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonhea...
Megaflow said:
After_Shock said:
Who developed the V12 in the latest DBS, thought that was an Aston design?
AFAIK, the 5.2 twin turbo V12 is a development of the original AM 6.0 V12.This is great news and as an engine engineer, very exciting to see. I hope they tune the exhaust well, as a 90 deg V6 is special sauce in terms of sound IMO. I hope that the turbos don't rob too much of the aural quality - the JLR AJ126 is one of my favourite sounding engines (even with a GPF) so I think the exhaust balancing between turbo's and cylinder banks will be important.
Still, new development is encouraging to see. Nice compact block and interesting trans interface area, I doubt the nice looking rods and milled block will make it to production but that area is looking very motorsport-y
Still, new development is encouraging to see. Nice compact block and interesting trans interface area, I doubt the nice looking rods and milled block will make it to production but that area is looking very motorsport-y
ducnick said:
Maserati did the same thing in the 80’s:
Take the 90 degree V8... cut it short. Add 2 turbos, hey presto... 90 degree biturbo v6. It worked well for them and resulted in a truly epic little engine. Hopefully this works out for Aston and Merc don’t sue them for too much.
Errr... what? The Biturbo was an unmitigated disaster! Not particularly nice to drive and catastrophically unreliable... not sure it was related to a V8 either? The earlier Citroen-Maserati V6 was ¾ of an intended V8 (only a few were made before it got axed, only one survived IIRC)... the smallest of the old Maserati V8s (4136cc) is still considerably bigger per cylinder than any of the V6s.Take the 90 degree V8... cut it short. Add 2 turbos, hey presto... 90 degree biturbo v6. It worked well for them and resulted in a truly epic little engine. Hopefully this works out for Aston and Merc don’t sue them for too much.
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