Sadly selling due to crisis

Sadly selling due to crisis

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Deep Thought

27,568 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th March
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Jimmy Recard said:
Welshbeef said:
You mean buying it blind paying for it in full and leaving it for an unknown duration there until covid and lockdown permit you to collect it.

Another question will you deep clean it with gloves in case of virus
If no one has been in the car for a couple of weeks, there won't be any active virus in there, will there?
At least that's how I understand it
It would be worth checking for exact figures, but i think the virus can only survive for something like 30 minutes outside of a host, so leave the car sitting there for a day or so before getting in to it would see it well clear.

The only touchpoint would be the keys - easy to have the seller drop those in to a bag for disinfection with gloves on - or leave them without touching them.


LimaDelta

4,510 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th March
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Deep Thought said:
It would be worth checking for exact figures, but i think the virus can only survive for something like 30 minutes outside of a host, so leave the car sitting there for a day or so before getting in to it would see it well clear.

The only touchpoint would be the keys - easy to have the seller drop those in to a bag for disinfection with gloves on - or leave them without touching them.
Up to 17 days on some surfaces according to the CDC's investigation on the Diamond Princess.

cayman-black

9,668 posts

174 months

Thursday 26th March
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I don't think there is hope in hells chance to sell a car right now and even less chance something nice.

I must add it doesn't stop me looking though, but it can go no further!

South tdf

1,030 posts

153 months

Thursday 26th March
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GroundZero said:
Aren't Aston's generally cheap to buy for a reason?
Running costs/maintenance being the big hit for ownership?
They are not that bad, I bought a V8 Roadster 4 years old in 2015 and kept it until late last year. Less than £15k depreciation, £6k servicing and tyres but did spend £9k on extended warranty but was only needed for about £3k of repairs.

Deep Thought

27,568 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th March
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LimaDelta said:
Deep Thought said:
It would be worth checking for exact figures, but i think the virus can only survive for something like 30 minutes outside of a host, so leave the car sitting there for a day or so before getting in to it would see it well clear.

The only touchpoint would be the keys - easy to have the seller drop those in to a bag for disinfection with gloves on - or leave them without touching them.
Up to 17 days on some surfaces according to the CDC's investigation on the Diamond Princess.
Oh. Interesting. Thank you.

sparks_190e

11,586 posts

171 months

Thursday 26th March
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South tdf said:
GroundZero said:
Aren't Aston's generally cheap to buy for a reason?
Running costs/maintenance being the big hit for ownership?
They are not that bad, I bought a V8 Roadster 4 years old in 2015 and kept it until late last year. Less than £15k depreciation, £6k servicing and tyres but did spend £9k on extended warranty but was only needed for about £3k of repairs.
To be fair £1500 a year maintenance was about what my E39 BMW cost me over the years, I'm guessing the Vantage isn't a particularly complicated car so an older one could probably be looked after by a competent specialist.

South tdf

1,030 posts

153 months

Thursday 26th March
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I believe so, my biggest warranty claim was the LED sidelight at £1500, apparently these can be DIY fixed now.

Head over to the Aston section, you will be hooked!

gpfanuk

66 posts

131 months

Thursday 26th March
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Although not on the scale of the supercar buyers on here I have just paid the deposit for a much needed family wagon, and e91 325i. Now unable to collect until restrictions are relaxed. On the plus side its not like I have anywhere to go to.

Deep Thought

27,568 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th March
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gpfanuk said:
Although not on the scale of the supercar buyers on here I have just paid the deposit for a much needed family wagon, and e91 325i. Now unable to collect until restrictions are relaxed. On the plus side its not like I have anywhere to go to.
Very nice. Loving my e90 330i. Not that it gets driven currently. frown

clio007

280 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th March
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Its possible to sell a car in the current climate.

If its cheap it will still sell. Money transferred into your account and car picked up by recovery truck.

I would hazard a guess that a 50k car might need to be 35-40k for somebody take on that risk.

Rick-fgpe0

109 posts

62 months

Thursday 26th March
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Deep Thought said:
LimaDelta said:
Deep Thought said:
It would be worth checking for exact figures, but i think the virus can only survive for something like 30 minutes outside of a host, so leave the car sitting there for a day or so before getting in to it would see it well clear.

The only touchpoint would be the keys - easy to have the seller drop those in to a bag for disinfection with gloves on - or leave them without touching them.
Up to 17 days on some surfaces according to the CDC's investigation on the Diamond Princess.
Oh. Interesting. Thank you.
Be careful with these numbers guys. 17 days is highly unlikely in almost all scenarios. The general rule from UK government, HSE, and various institutions is that it can survivor for a maximum of 5 days on inanimate objects. 72hrs on cardboard and plastic, 48hrs on steel, 8hrs on copper.

The waste management guidelines are to treat potentially contaminated waste as contaminated (handle with gloves and coveralls, put in a rubbish bag, then that in another bag, then securely store for 72hrs before putting it in with the general waste.



https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...




LimaDelta

4,510 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th March
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Rick-fgpe0 said:
Deep Thought said:
LimaDelta said:
Deep Thought said:
It would be worth checking for exact figures, but i think the virus can only survive for something like 30 minutes outside of a host, so leave the car sitting there for a day or so before getting in to it would see it well clear.

The only touchpoint would be the keys - easy to have the seller drop those in to a bag for disinfection with gloves on - or leave them without touching them.
Up to 17 days on some surfaces according to the CDC's investigation on the Diamond Princess.
Oh. Interesting. Thank you.
Be careful with these numbers guys. 17 days is highly unlikely in almost all scenarios. The general rule from UK government, HSE, and various institutions is that it can survivor for a maximum of 5 days on inanimate objects. 72hrs on cardboard and plastic, 48hrs on steel, 8hrs on copper.

The waste management guidelines are to treat potentially contaminated waste as contaminated (handle with gloves and coveralls, put in a rubbish bag, then that in another bag, then securely store for 72hrs before putting it in with the general waste.



https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...



Highly unlikely perhaps, but still possible.

Centre for Disease Control link

Xaero

3,968 posts

173 months

Thursday 26th March
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I sold my car (admittedly a civic, not a super car) to we buy any car on Monday. £540 online was reduced to £232 when I got there, which was somewhat expected as it was in poor condition, I accepted even though I wanted £300. The guy told me they have 12,000 cars in a field now and can't sell them because auctions closed and they have to rent more fields to take in more cars, so are only giving stupid offers in an effort to not have to rent extra fields for all these cars.

Selling privately at a loss is the way to sell now. Things should peak up again after the virus does one, but there will be a backlog of cars to sell, and probably much less buyers than usual too as everyone will have funds/salary depleted.

lyonspride

2,726 posts

113 months

Thursday 26th March
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Xaero said:
I sold my car (admittedly a civic, not a super car) to we buy any car on Monday. £540 online was reduced to £232 when I got there, which was somewhat expected as it was in poor condition, I accepted even though I wanted £300. The guy told me they have 12,000 cars in a field now and can't sell them because auctions closed and they have to rent more fields to take in more cars, so are only giving stupid offers in an effort to not have to rent extra fields for all these cars.

Selling privately at a loss is the way to sell now. Things should peak up again after the virus does one, but there will be a backlog of cars to sell, and probably much less buyers than usual too as everyone will have funds/salary depleted.
There will be A LOT of nearly new cars out there soon in the prestige end of the market, which the drivers could no longer afford the finance due to coronavirus.

Pie-n-Peys

151 posts

76 months

Thursday 26th March
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My fiance tried WBAC with her BMW 235i convertible recently. In January she had a value of around £12,500 and was looking to sell because shes now pregnant. She was waiting for something else to go through so she could sell it and add a couple grand to pay of remaining finance to close the deal. Getting rid would save almost £500 a month due to cost of car, petrol, insurance etc.

She looked this week and it was down to about £7,700. Value has gone through the floor!

Jimmy Recard

17,208 posts

137 months

Thursday 26th March
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Xaero said:
I sold my car (admittedly a civic, not a super car) to we buy any car on Monday. £540 online was reduced to £232 when I got there, which was somewhat expected as it was in poor condition, I accepted even though I wanted £300. The guy told me they have 12,000 cars in a field now and can't sell them because auctions closed and they have to rent more fields to take in more cars, so are only giving stupid offers in an effort to not have to rent extra fields for all these cars.

Selling privately at a loss is the way to sell now. Things should peak up again after the virus does one, but there will be a backlog of cars to sell, and probably much less buyers than usual too as everyone will have funds/salary depleted.
What kind of Civic? What was wrong with it?

Rick-fgpe0

109 posts

62 months

Thursday 26th March
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LimaDelta said:
Highly unlikely perhaps, but still possible.

Centre for Disease Control link
Thanks for this. Shame it doesn’t list the surface material. I wonder what the concentration found was like. I manage engineers working in critical environments and am putting together guidance notes so this is interesting. Thanks again.

Xaero

3,968 posts

173 months

Thursday 26th March
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Jimmy Recard said:
What kind of Civic? What was wrong with it?
5 door 2005 1.6 petrol one delivered to them with exactly 99,999 miles (as they drop values at 100k miles even more). The body work had dints all over it which is why it was knocked down. They didn't even drive it, but the gearbox whines as a bearing has gone (common fault) and the heater usually doesn't work either.

Doesn't bother me taking over 50% off their offer as it's only a couple hundred, but taking 50% off anything other than a shed is going to hurt a lot of people.

DickyC

38,423 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th March
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With their name WBAC are stuck with buying. If they don't want to buy they must be compelled to make rubbish offers.

Redlake27

2,255 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th March
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I'm selling my Maserati Ghibli 410hp as I've also lost some business and, on the flip side, my partner's gained a company car that I can regularly use with free fuel....

It's a tough market to sell in and I'm reluctant to move on price, so I'm including 12 toilet rolls in the boot to double the value.