RE: 2020 Volkswagen Golf GTI: official details

RE: 2020 Volkswagen Golf GTI: official details

Thursday 14th May 2020

2020 Volkswagen Golf GTI: official details

Better agility, heightened stability and improved aero ought to make the 245hp Mk8 the most compelling GTI yet



If there’s a staffer at Volkswagen capable of making us feel optimistic about the new Golf GTI, it’s pro racer Benny Leuchter. And if there’s a number to get us excited about its outright performance, it’s a quick laptime. When PH learned that a Leuchter-driven Mk8 Golf GTI had slashed 3.9 seconds from the Mk7 Performance’s best at Ehra, his assurance that the world's most famous hot hatch has taken a significant step forward suddenly seemed more solid. Because 3.9 seconds is a sizeable gap anywhere. On a test track of less than two miles it's substantial.

It’s all the more impressive because, as we’ve known since February, there is no difference in power between old and new. The entry-level Mk8 GTI gets the same 245hp as the second tier Mk7. Clearly, the new model's advantage is not EA888-related, but rather – as PH was told in a private conference video – attributable to a number of detailed chassis changes. Leuchter says the finished GTI has a “front that is very precise” and a “rear that is very agile”. We’re given footage of him getting very sideways to illustrate it. Which is nice.

To counter any claim that the Mk8 is more Mk7 evolution than revolution, VW chassis tuning boss Karsten Schebsdat uses his time in the video spotlight to emphasise the extent of the hardware alterations. To summarise several slides, the Mk8 GTI gets stiffer wishbone bushes, new springs and reconfigured bump stops, while the dampers and associated control software are all new. At the front, there’s the same aluminium subframe as the old Clubsport, with the effect said to contribute more feel, quicker steering response and better body control.


However, it’s the enhanced stiffness at the back which is arguably the biggest departure from the GTI norm. Schebsdat’s team has upped spring rates by 15 per cent on the rear axle in the pursuit of newfound agility (the front goes up by five per cent). That’s a significant hike for a base-level hot hatch. New geometry on the nose gives the eighth GTI higher toe-in under load for greater stability, too. Couple that to a standard-fit VAQ limited slip diff between the driven wheels (it was previously an option on the GTI) and upgrade from 18s to optional 19-inch rims – as many Brits will – there’s 235-width rubber to tread on. That the base GTI can also be specced with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s is a signal of real intent.

As before, cars come as standard with passive suspension or the option of Dynamic Chassis Control, while all get new brake booster settings for easier pressure modulation – something VW really nailed in the recent T-Roc R. Then there’s the freshly tuned progressive steering, which has initial quicker response and takes just 2.1 turns to go from lock-to-lock. Interestingly, VW relates part of the car’s better front-end stability to newfound aerodynamic performance. There’s less lift at the rear – thanks in part to the Mk8’s tapering roofline – keeping all four paws more evenly pressed into the tarmac at speed and improving composure. By contrast, the Mk7 GTI developed a slight forward rake as the miles per hour piled on.

Alongside the mechanical honing, VW makes much of the progress made with the Golf's software. The fact that Leuchter’s time at Ehra was set with the car’s ESP in Sport mode rather than fully off, speaks volumes. The brief for VW’s technicians (much like its engineers) was also about unlocking agility without dispensing with the GTI's famed predictability. Schebsdat reckons the subsequent performance improvements have come at no cost to comfort or usability either. Given the car's reputation as the most rounded hot hatch, repeat buyers will be keen for that claim to be proven accurate. 


Elsewhere, a lot of attention has been focussed on the digitalisation in the cabin, with two 10-inch screens – one instrument cluster and another centrally-mounted on the dash – plus a head-up display on the kit list. The dash layout is unchanged from the regular Golf, but you get the usual GTI trimmings, including tartan seat fabric and sportier digital displays, to spruce it up. Where the exterior design may still split opinions, the cabin is probably a safer bet for all-round approval. It’s smart, even if, frustratingly, it has dispensed with cherished physical items like a volume knob.

All will be forgiven though if it delivers on the promises made by its engineering team. As ever, the thought of a practical, well-made five-door hatch that changes direction like something tuned for the track is a compelling one. Better still, with this being the entry-level GTI, it makes an interesting starting point for what will ultimately follow on. If earlier leaked (and so far accurate) internal slides are anything to go by, from here we'll jump straight from GTI to a 300hp TCR successor. Which, on this evidence, could be a fairly serious contender. 

As for whether or not there will be a front-drive lap-record contender positioned above the pairing, we'll have to wait and see. Although, as we mentioned yesterday, 2021 is the GTI’s 45th year; it would be cruel and unusual if VW didn't produce something to celebrate the milestone. Granted, that might just mean some badges and tinsel. Or it could mean something properly special. Whatever the outcome, Volkswagen has apparently taken the multiple challenges to its longstanding hot hatch crown very seriously. We look forward to driving the result in the coming months.

















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Jim300186

Original Poster:

172 posts

114 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Pretty much lifted the gear selector from a 992 911!

Its Just Adz

13,945 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Those wheels are horrendous.

Ursicles

1,068 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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The front and those wheels are a mess.

Is it auto only?

pacdes

482 posts

160 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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One word.... 'Bland'

sidesauce

2,456 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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pacdes said:
One word.... 'Bland'
Maybe, but it'll sell and sell. Then it will sell some more and after that, still sell some more too. This car is designed to offend as few people as possible, being a 'cash-cow' for VW and by Jove, they know their target market!

Klippie

3,096 posts

144 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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I’ve always been a fan of the GTi...but that is a hideous front end design.


jakeb

281 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Front horrid but i am sure it will become the new norm or someone will make a bottom grill / fog light arrangement to rectify.

However, i want a go on their test track.


I wonder how many GTIs you will see with R-Line front grills - much better





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Edited by jakeb on Thursday 14th May 06:44


Edited by jakeb on Thursday 14th May 06:47

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Styling is excellent. Golf buyers want to be under the radar. I personally think other hot hatches look far too insecure / showy; and in the case of the Civic, ridiculous. Seats look great.

Overall, good car let down by the fad for dangerous screens; and by the stupid big wheels. The article is right that most buyers will specify the 19" wheels. If 24" wheels were an option, I guarantee that plenty of the big-wheel fashion-victims are dumb enough to opt for those as well. Big wheels and low profile tyres are bad for mpg, bad for acceleration, bad for endless punctures, bad for comfort and bad for handling (bouncing and tramlining and lack of on-the-limit feedback that only beefier sidewalls can give you) on back roads. They also look silly. Though they are good on race tracks (where of course we spend much of our time). Pleas such as this one are destined to be ignored: https://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/new-cars/opinion...

GTEYE

2,092 posts

209 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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It’s not pretty but I’m sure we’ll get used to it.

The thing that bothers me more is that the Mk8 Golf is such a gentle evolution from the Mk7. The other MQB cars have done it better (A3, Octavia, Leon) - at least there looks to be a bit of progress.

If you showed someone cold a Mk7.5 and a Mk8 - could they really pick out which was the new model? I can’t see any real progress (on the outside at least). The inside, for sure, the Mk8 is the inferior car - touchscreen everything is a mistake.

sidesauce

2,456 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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tommy1973s said:
They also look silly.
Says you. I think your opinion is in the minority as the streets of the western world currently show. Personally I think small wheeled cars look like roller-skates therefore they're even sillier.

SmoothCriminal

5,047 posts

198 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Why would anyone have one of these?

The R is so much more car in all areas.

And If you want a front wheel drive vag group performace car the Cupra is steps ahead of this aswell

abzmike

8,241 posts

105 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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That big black plastic chin is challenging... and won’t look any better once it’s dirty with a couple of chips and cracks from stones. Other than that looks ok if, as said, a bit bland. May look more exciting in the metal.

PaulJC84

922 posts

216 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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I saw a leaked one of these in red on here and the front looked better with the wide grille than in that picture.

Found it.



Edited by PaulJC84 on Thursday 14th May 07:48

Gameface

16,565 posts

76 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Those seats/headrests need something written on them. They look strangely bare.

The car itself will, as ever, not be as flash as the competition but will outsell them all.

stuart-b

3,643 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Like eating dry weetabix

Baldchap

7,507 posts

91 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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On first impressions it looks like yet again we'll have an excellent car that is more than capable on road and track, despite being excellent to live with every day. People who haven't/can't drive it will say it's boring to drive, but it won't be at all, it'll just be a great all rounder. Just like the last one (and a half). thumbup

But of course, this being PH I must add: boring, white goods, PCP, zzzz, etc. without having any first hand experience of this or anything else of any relevance whatsoever. laugh

Gus265

264 posts

132 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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PaulJC84 said:
I saw a leaked one of these in red on here and the front looked better with the wide grille than in that picture.

Found it.



Edited by PaulJC84 on Thursday 14th May 07:48
You should be VW’s photographer - that one photo has totally changed my opinion of the front end - that’s quite smart!

Gameface

16,565 posts

76 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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What a difference!

Court_S

12,764 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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I’m sure it’ll be great to drive as the last Tewa I’ve been but the front end is awful as are the shock wheels. The rear looks Ok but that’s because it doesn’t look to have changed much! The 7.5 looks way better to me.

Inside looks whizzy and very swish boy I hate the move to touchscreens. This is where BMW have hit it more right for me personally; they’ve added tech that buyers seem to crave like gesture control whilst retaining the practicality of buttons and the idrive controller.

the_hood

769 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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The almost completely 'touch screen only ' controls would put me off. It's just needlessly complicated and dangerous.