Own a drivers car but no interest in cars!

Own a drivers car but no interest in cars!

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Lee Jones Jnr

1,724 posts

169 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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ddom said:
Why do people still til out thee ridiculous statements. The Golf defined, and has been at the top of the pile for hot hatches for years.
I don't follow what is going on with hot hatches, but is that true?
I thought it was generally agreed that that ended when the mk2 Golf ended production.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Mk3 and Mk4 were st!

That's nearly 15 years of Golf timeline where the GTI wasnt really a GTI.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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As has been said, the Golf is just a slightly quicker shopping trolley. A driver's car it is not.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Not really qualified re the history of Golfs... but pretty sure my employer at the time, had this car, from new. It was the top spec golf available on the list anyway, as he got it 'free' via mobility.

He certainly had no idea it was a drivers car. I drove (and abused) it a bit, and felt to me like a nippy fiesta.



Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 28th June 11:29

ddom

6,657 posts

47 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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whp1983 said:
This. I’d wager the majority of Ferrari’s, 911s etc are not enthusiast owned. Just pretty and expensive and fit in with lifestyle and why not.
rofl

But if so, who cares? Would you rather not see them on the road and manufactures sticking all resources into crushingly boring cars?

Just appreciate them is my opinion. I’d rather see a 911 being driven like miss daisy than a Honda Jazz doing the same.


CABC

5,533 posts

100 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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av185 said:
whp1983 said:
This. I’d wager the majority of Ferrari’s, 911s etc are not enthusiast owned. Just pretty and expensive and fit in with lifestyle and why not.
Any evidence to support your dreamt up theory?

Thought not. rolleyes
i do. maybe it's just the neighbourhood i live in!
BiL has a 911 that he coasts round corners, that's how he drives all cars. he's a surgeon so it fitted in to the list of acquisitions. i may not be as bold to say 'majority', but it would be a close call i think. obviously depends on defining enthusiast and lifestyle.

bcr5784

7,102 posts

144 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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CABC said:
i do. maybe it's just the neighbourhood i live in!
BiL has a 911 that he coasts round corners, that's how he drives all cars. he's a surgeon so it fitted in to the list of acquisitions. i may not be as bold to say 'majority', but it would be a close call i think. obviously depends on defining enthusiast and lifestyle.
Have to agree. Bought a 911 from a lady. Her Ex bought it for her as a parting gift (didn't want a Cayman - "not a proper Porsche"). I frightened the living daylights out of her when I tested it - and believe me I don't think I exceeded 4000 revs or 70mph. She then decided she wanted an SUV - so went out to buy one and bought ..... .... a Volvo convertible (had lovely white leather seats).

ZX10R NIN

27,494 posts

124 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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ddom said:
Why do people still til out thee ridiculous statements. The Golf defined, and has been at the top of the pile for hot hatches for years.
It was top of the pile years before the Mk5 came out but it hasn't been the best driver hot hatch for decades & the other reason people rave about the MK5 is not that it was so good but because the MK3/4 were a so bad.


Edited by ZX10R NIN on Sunday 28th June 12:12

ddom

6,657 posts

47 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
It was top of the pile year before the Mk5 came out but it hasn't been the best driver hot hatch for decades & the other reason people rave about the MK5 is not that it was so good but because the MK3/4 were a so bad.
Yes, but mk1/2/5 and more recent cars are anything but ‘shopping trolleys’. I’ve got a mate with an XKR, lovely old boat, but a boat nonetheless and he’s the same. Just makes me laugh talking about cars like the R and clubsport like they are economic hatches to fetch the own brand beans smile That Jag, great cruiser but show it a punishing road and it’ll be waving the white flag long before those ‘shopping trolleys’ Probably ‘whispers wealth’ though.

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scottygib553

507 posts

94 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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I’ve skipped all the idiotic “drivers car? rolleyes” posts.

Most of the time these models have the most kit of the range and though the highly sophisticated PH community may not be fooled by such trickery, the interior and options will sway some people and will give them the most satisfaction out of the car.


alec.e

2,149 posts

123 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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av185 said:
whp1983 said:
This. I’d wager the majority of Ferrari’s, 911s etc are not enthusiast owned. Just pretty and expensive and fit in with lifestyle and why not.
Any evidence to support your dreamt up theory?

Thought not. rolleyes
Go to places like central London, Monaco, where Ferraris / Porsches / ect are everywhere. The majority won't be petrolheads, just very wealthy. My M6 was bought when new to drive round London, probably never went over 4,000rpm.

Sorry...

Triumph Man

8,670 posts

167 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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See it quite a bit around here: old biffer wanders into a showroom “id like the top of the range Focus/Civic/A6” “certainly mr/mrs old biffer”. Old biffer then drives off in a Focus RS/Civic Type R/RS6.

Before anyone accuses me of being ageist, I’ve seen all the above around here being driven extremely slowly and cautiously- hence my theory that they ask for the top of the range model and get just that...

I’ve also seen older petrolheads absolutely flying around, which is great - used to pass an old boy in a 911 convertible, roof down in all weathers absolutely tanking on - always made me smile.

av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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alec.e said:
av185 said:
whp1983 said:
This. I’d wager the majority of Ferrari’s, 911s etc are not enthusiast owned. Just pretty and expensive and fit in with lifestyle and why not.
Any evidence to support your dreamt up theory?

Thought not. rolleyes
Go to places like central London, Monaco, where Ferraris / Porsches / ect are everywhere. The majority won't be petrolheads, just very wealthy. My M6 was bought when new to drive round London, probably never went over 4,000rpm.

Sorry...
Maybe, but you will always get these morons who like flaunting their wealth just along the Kings Road.

Most GT Porsches (GT3 RS GT2 RS etc) and more focused Ferraris ( Speciale, Pista etc) and e.g. Lamborghini Performantes are owned by enthusiasts who drive them for the car they are and not the badge.


Glosphil

4,337 posts

233 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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I have 2 friends who always buy top of the range cars. Both moan that the top of the range cars are often only available with more powerful engines than they want.

Earthdweller

13,432 posts

125 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Friends mum, retired, widowed, well to do lives in an upmarket village has an X5 M50d with I’d imagine every option on it and a TT roadster for sunny days, both bought new and changed regularly.

She’s a mobile traffic jam when she’s out.

Cars spend half the year sat in the garage as she has a villa in Spain. I think he once said the TT does about 500 miles a year and the X5 about 4K if that

Blakewater

4,303 posts

156 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Phunk said:
There is a local lady pensioner near me who just goes and buys the best golf that's on offer at the time.

Last time it was some 2 seat special Clubsport thing.
Don't assume that because she's a lady pensioner she has no interest in cars and driving them enthusiastically.

GrizzlyBear

1,072 posts

134 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Loads of people like to own the GTi for the image, but drive them quietly down the road, they just like the idea it is a GTi as they are usually stuck in a traffic jam at 5mph. Hence why marketing is so important to get people to buy sufficient numbers of the sporty one to make it viable.

Then you get boy racers in fiestas adding additional tiny "fins" to the roof "cos it will make it go fast, like, init!" oh yes, the best one was "alloy wheels are like, well heavy so it weighs the car down in the corners"... I could barely stop myself from laughing in his face at that one, I couldn't be bother to explain it to him as I am guessing I would have to speak slowly and repeat myself a lot.

Lots of people: Go to car dealer, look at cars, they find one they like the look of in a colour they like and those wheels look nice... then buy it. Nothing wrong with that, pay your money and take your choice...

Shnozz

27,422 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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My dear mother has a sense of entitlement I think that stems from her childhood. As such, whenever she bought a new car, she’d always opt for the GTI or top of the range equivalent, despite having no interest in performance, never revving beyond about 2.5k and in fact would prefer a less stiffly spring car to the performance models.

Brainpox

4,054 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Lots of UP! GTIs around here driven by middle aged people who want a small shopping trolley that isn't useless in the NSL zones. If it's got the right badge, it'll sell.

MrBarry123

6,025 posts

120 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Probably not a popular opinion but I admire people who buy the “quick” version of a car and then just poddle around in it until they sell it without having ever once used the performance available.