New e-tron S is the first fast Audi EV
503hp and 718lb ft confirmed for latest Audi S, price from £87k
Not so long ago, the fast Audi formula was pretty simple, because it was an A4 or A6 Avant with as much V8 as could be crammed betwixt headlight and bulkhead. With popularity came expansion of the range, incorporating coupes, SUVs, and even diesels with the SQ5 of 2013. Now there's another avenue being pursued by the Audi S empire: EVs.
This e-tron S and e-tron S Sportback pair are Audi's first foray into electrified performance motoring, and expect many more to follow in their wake. Described as a "significant milestone" for the e-tron brand, the S models are notable for not being just slightly hotted up versions of a standard 55-badged car. They are in fact the first "volume production" battery electric vehicles to use three electric motors (two at the rear, one upfront), which it won't surprise you to learn brings some appropriately swift acceleration numbers.
With a total of 503hp from the trio of motors, plus 718lb of peak torque available in eight-second overboosts, the e-tron S can reach 62mph in 4.5 seconds and a top speed of 130mph. Which is more than fast enough for an 'S'-badged car - what might an RS do? The range is rated at 223 miles for the standard car on WLTP and 226 for the Sportback, with the 95kWh battery having a usable 86kWh.
The setup of those motors is interesting beyond the bare stats, too. Typically the e-tron uses only the rear pair, with the front one (basically an e tron 55 rear motor adapted for this installation) called upon only if extra traction or power is needed. The rear motors can apportion their force to each wheel as required in milliseconds, and it's said that "on challenging roads" is where the e tron delivers its best.
To that end, the air suspension has had an 'S' rework and the powertrain has a more pronounced rearward bias than a standard car; it's said that with drive select to 'dynamic' and the ESC backed off slightly, the e tron S gains an "an even more adjustable" cornering attitude and the ability to perform controlled drifts. Just make sure there's plenty of space for that; even on a runway these look like big cars...
They're even larger than standard e-trons actually, with 5cm added to the width of both S models - note the wider wheel arches compared to a regular model. They also receive the trademark silver mirrors and standard 21-inch wheels - 22s are optional.
The e-tron S and e-tron S Sportback will be available to order "from summer 2020" (which we assume must be about now) and all customers ordering before 2021 will receive a complimentary wall box charger. A useful saving, though at £87,000 and £88,700 for the Sportback, the e tron S isn't exactly aimed at those switching to electric motoring to save the pennies. At present, the cars face no obvious rivals given the lack of performance derivatives for both the Mercedes EQ C and Jaguar i-Pace. In fact, the strongest competition it might face is from within, and alternative S-badged Audis; the 435hp SQ8 TDI costs from £81,740...
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
Shocking isnt it, some folk are actually happy with getting to sixty miles an hour in a leisurely 4.5 seconds and arent going to be staging drag races with every other car like they are the bloke from CarWow.
Slower and lower range and no access to a ubiquitous fast charge network.
all for 20 grand odd extra ....
And it's not top trumps for me to be able to get to Heathrow and back without charging (100 miles each way for me) - it would be horrid to always have to stop. People tell me that the best way to view range numbers is to drop by a third for safe real world range (I have no other guide so would love to be corrected) so when I see the top range Mustang can give me this if I read the stats correctly but the Audi at a massive price premium can't even do 200 miles by the calculation - well I just don't see the point.
Feels like a last gasp to peddle to those who dont check hard enough a piece of old tech
Slower and lower range and no access to a ubiquitous fast charge network.
all for 20 grand odd extra ....
And it's not top trumps for me to be able to get to Heathrow and back without charging (100 miles each way for me) - it would be horrid to always have to stop. People tell me that the best way to view range numbers is to drop by a third for safe real world range (I have no other guide so would love to be corrected) so when I see the top range Mustang can give me this if I read the stats correctly but the Audi at a massive price premium can't even do 200 miles by the calculation - well I just don't see the point.
Feels like a last gasp to peddle to those who dont check hard enough a piece of old tech
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
4.5 seconds for a "fast" EV is embarrassingly slow, I don't know why PH say that's fast enough. It's quick, don't get me wrong, but £90k for an "S" Audi that can't out-accelerate an S3? Come on... A mid-range Model 3 or an entry Model S are both faster...
Not sure what Audi are doing with their EV's but they seem to have shocking efficiency and very poor performance given how much power they've got and the size of motors they're using.
They look good and are comfortable, but it's the only EV I've driven where I genuinely experienced range anxiety, the real world range of the E-Tron (non S model) I had was ~160 miles. Having driven I-PACE's before, this was a bit unexpected.
The Tesla very obviously has been designed as a EV from the ground up. As an EV its superior in everyway, its efficient, quick, nimble, easy to use, minimalistic and best of all has the charging infrastructure to support everyday use. I see why owners are smug gets, you feel everyone else is driving the past.
But as a car its dull, cheap, bland, tacky and very much a consumable. If it had a petrol engine it would be terrible.
The Audi as an EV is 3/5 of the Tesla. Slower (still quick for a car), less range, heavy and clumsy and reliant on a inconsistent and patchy infrastructure.
As a car its wonderful. Im no fan of the Q5, Q7 but the E-turd looks fantastic. With the smaller wheels and high profile tyres it look just right. The interior is wonderful and lightyears ahead of the model 3. Its a nice place to be.
I loved both of these oddballs . The Tesla is a whitegoods tool, designed to to get from A-B. The Audi is a flawed luxury item.
I'm hopping the Polestar 2 is the happy medium of a great car and EV.
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