First Stock & Shares ISA, what to do?

First Stock & Shares ISA, what to do?

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StottyGTR

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6,860 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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I've finally saved 20k up and I'm looking to put it all into a tax free stocks & shares ISA but I've never done anything like this before... At first I was looking at buying individual shares using Hargreaves Lansdown but after reading a couple books I've realised I should probably leave it to the professionals. Putting the money in a fund seems like a more sensible idea but I don't really know what's best!

What would you guys recommend I do getting into this to ideally take advantage of the recovering economy.

duckson

1,242 posts

182 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Read the IM sticky....could do worse than invest in an IM portfolio. They are also imminently (ie today) releasing a Recovery portfolio.

mikeiow

5,367 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Firstly, remember that ISAs are just a tax efficient 'wrapper' for your money - the funds underneath can be many and varied!

If you are saving for a first home, then a LISA might be a good choice.....our kids have AJ Bell one's - simple tracker fund options to pick.

If not: then I like the ethos put out by Lars Kroijer - maybe watch some of his short videos & see what you think.
With that in mind, I would then suggest a low-cost tracker.

I am personally a big fan of IM (see sticky thread here) & would suggest having a chat with them - they have low cost trackers, and the ability to give you helpful guidance for your personal situation (note - not advice ;-)

Alternatives could be Vanguard LifeStrategy - pick your 'risk' and select funds.

Depending on your situation & when you think you might need the money, you may also want to put more into a pension fund - usually THE most tax efficient wrapper for your money long term. With limits on access, of course.

The more you investigate and read, the more you will learn - it isn't too hard, and the best financial advisor with your interests at heart can be yourself (note - bad decisions could also make you the worst advisor!)

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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This is either pedantic or useful but...

Remember that £20K is the annual limit on what you can put in a traditional S&S ISA but you could have opened an S&S ISA with as little as a few hundred quid.

So you don't have to put the whole £20K in in one go and most importantly you don't have to invest all £20K in one go though you may take the view it's right to do so.

I'd think about two things personally.

  • Appetite for risk i.e. you put in £20K and wake up one day and if you sold it all right there and then you'd have £12K - that's what happened earlier this year more or less and thinking you can stomach it is much easier for most people than watching it happen with your money.
  • Do you want to do this as a hobby or do you want an easy life? If it's the former you need to put some time in to understand things. If it's the latter I'd second the suggestion to read the IM thread and I'd also consider a low cost simple option such as Vanguard.
HL are a really good platform but hold off doing anything until you know roughly what you want to do - platform charges (i.e. what HL would charge you for their services) can make a huge difference to the cost of investing.

StottyGTR

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6,860 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Thanks all, I wasn't aware of the IM thread so I'll give that a read as I'm sure it will answer all of my questions (and probably raise many more laugh)

bitchstewie

51,207 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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StottyGTR said:
Thanks all, I wasn't aware of the IM thread so I'll give that a read as I'm sure it will answer all of my questions (and probably raise many more laugh)
One additional thing.

Spend time reading up.

You don't need to know masses but it amazes me how many people will spend ages reading up on their next car but do bugger all research on where they invest 20 grand smile

Aftershox

397 posts

158 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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IMO put in savings into a FTSE100/FTSE250 tracker is quite safe for a 20% return over the next 2 years.

Meeten-5dulx

2,575 posts

56 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Aftershox said:
IMO put in savings into a FTSE100/FTSE250 tracker is quite safe for a 20% return over the next 2 years.
if it were THAT easy, we would all be doing that!
no worries about a long recession?
Just look at how long Japan took to recover....

A recovery fund sounds lik a good idea - perhaps a proportion in that and then decide on the rest.
It's doing FA sitting as cash in a ISA.

xeny

4,308 posts

78 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Aftershox said:
IMO put in savings into a FTSE100/FTSE250 tracker is quite safe for a 20% return over the next 2 years.
Why pick FTSE over SP500, or VWRL? Do you expect them to do better?

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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mikeiow said:
If you are saving for a first home, then a LISA might be a good choice.....
I thought they had closed the door on new LISA applicants?

Kiribati268

570 posts

137 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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LeadFarmer said:
I thought they had closed the door on new LISA applicants?
Just HTB ISA, AFAIK LISA are still open for business

mikeiow

5,367 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Kiribati268 said:
LeadFarmer said:
I thought they had closed the door on new LISA applicants?
Just HTB ISA, AFAIK LISA are still open for business
Aye, LISAs are still around !
Really only make sense for first home buyers - for longer term pension savings, pensions generally make more sense!

StottyGTR

Original Poster:

6,860 posts

163 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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My plan is to invest the maximum allowance for the next 5 years+ just as a nest egg. I'm looking for the maximum return and are happy to take reasonable risks. I'm wondering exactly what would you guys do in this situation?

98elise

26,587 posts

161 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Split it up between Fundsmith and Lindsell Train Global funds. Both have historically great returns and have bounced back fully from Corona.

Almost anyone that buys funds will have those two amongst them.


JulianPH

9,917 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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StottyGTR said:
Thanks all, I wasn't aware of the IM thread so I'll give that a read as I'm sure it will answer all of my questions (and probably raise many more laugh)
I sometimes think it is invisible! hehe

Feel free to post there and we will help you find the right direction. It is free and needn't be with us at all.

(Thanks all for the mention)


Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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JulianPH said:
I sometimes think it is invisible! hehe
Valid point - if a sticky stays up beyond a certain length of time people go blind to it, especially if it has hundreds of pages. They're not going to read every page from #1, and if they just look at the last page, they have no idea of the context. Hence it's easier to ignore it and start again.

DaveGrohl

894 posts

97 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Personally my advice would be to open an ISA with iWeb. The platform is easy to use and understand and their charges both for trading and ongoing maintenance fees are really low. Also importantly they charge nothing if you want to leave them. I couldn't comment on their research area but I don't use any stockbroking websites to find info in the first place. There are a wealth of sites for that.

I have used several brokers over the years and iWeb are my favourite since Barclays sh@t the bed and destroyed their perfectly good platform.

You could do worse than take out a sub to Money Week, it's a great mag to read to ease yourself into this confusing world. It basically provides a round up of recommendations from the press and media together with explaining things to a varied level of reader knowledge.

Oh, and buy investment trusts rather than funds, but then Money Week will explain that to you.