Crime network cracked.

[eldar]

Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53263310

Sounds rather like a good result. Clever bit of hacking

[Brads67]

Is hacking a private network legal ? Or can the cops do what they like.?

Is there likely to be a defence based on how the evidence was obtained (apart from those caught with naughty stuff)

[Far Cough]

with the relevant authority in place , which there would have been if they have gone public , then , no problem.

See also :

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Brads67]

If Encrochat phones cannot be tied to a user did they blanket hack the lot and wade through it to identify individuals?.

[Oldandslow]

Brads67 said:

Is hacking a private network legal ? Or can the cops do what they like.?

Is there likely to be a defence based on how the evidence was obtained (apart from those caught with naughty stuff)

Brads67 said:

If Encrochat phones cannot be tied to a user did they blanket hack the lot and wade through it to identify individuals?.

Preparing your defence?

[donkmeister]

eldar said:

Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53263310

Sounds rather like a good result. Clever bit of hacking

Crikey, when I first read your post I thought the Fuzz had figured out what leptons really means when stated on PH... Phew.

[WJNB]

Within a few days another syndicate will have taken their place - as on so many other levels the authorities are losing the battle.

[mmm-five]

Serves them right for not paying the upgrade fee to a new Encrochat v2 phone

They were probably given one of those backdoors that governments/national intelligence agencies want Apple to install

[mr rusty]

This is about the best report of what went down https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3aza95/how-poli...

[mgv8]

WJNB said:

Within a few days another syndicate will have taken their place - as on so many other levels the authorities are losing the battle.

Interesting statement, but what is is based on?

[Smiljan]

mgv8 said:

WJNB said:

Within a few days another syndicate will have taken their place - as on so many other levels the authorities are losing the battle.

Interesting statement, but what is is based on?

Watching lots of movies

[andburg]

Brads67 said:

Is hacking a private network legal ? Or can the cops do what they like.?

Is there likely to be a defence based on how the evidence was obtained (apart from those caught with naughty stuff)

servers in france, french law applies so who knows!

[itsnotarace]

Amateurs for being detected by the Encrochat admins

[carinaman]

mgv8 said:

WJNB said:

Within a few days another syndicate will have taken their place - as on so many other levels the authorities are losing the battle.

Interesting statement, but what is is based on?

Cops selling information so drug dealers can use that information to raid their competitors before the police raid them?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-new...

The vice website link in this thread and the NPE thread on it mentions at least two other encrypted mobile phone solutions that criminals may be using.

The mainstream media reporting yesterday failed to mention that the raids took place now as the people running this encrypted system had realised their system had been compromised. Half the story from the BBC and the Director from the NCA.

[eldar]

carinaman said:

Cops selling information so drug dealers can use that information to raid their competitors before the police raid them?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-new...

The vice website link in this thread and the NPE thread on it mentions at least two other encrypted mobile phone solutions that criminals may be using.

The mainstream media reporting yesterday failed to mention that the raids took place now as the people running this encrypted system had realised their system had been compromised. Half the story from the BBC and the Director from the NCA.

How confident would you be the competing secure networks were still secure?

The brilliance of this is how much clear data has been collected, and the uncertainty of who and what to trust in the criminal enterprises.

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

[itsnotarace]

eldar said:

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

Its a big loss as their activity was detected

[eldar]

itsnotarace said:

eldar said:

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

Its a big loss as their activity was detected

Maybe it still is being detected. That is the clever bit.

[itsnotarace]

The vice article states the network has been shut down entirely now as the servers have been seized, so no further intelligence will be gathered on its users

[carinaman]

eldar said:

carinaman said:

Cops selling information so drug dealers can use that information to raid their competitors before the police raid them?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-new...

The vice website link in this thread and the NPE thread on it mentions at least two other encrypted mobile phone solutions that criminals may be using.

The mainstream media reporting yesterday failed to mention that the raids took place now as the people running this encrypted system had realised their system had been compromised. Half the story from the BBC and the Director from the NCA.

How confident would you be the competing secure networks were still secure?

The brilliance of this is how much clear data has been collected, and the uncertainty of who and what to trust in the criminal enterprises.

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

I saw the thread in NP&E and read through some of the Vice link on the system and how it worked yesterday afternoon. I also heard the interview with the Director of the NCA on BBC Radio 4's PM. I was aware of this news item before you started your thread here. Sorry I won't be going out on my door step and clapping for the good work of the NCA and law enforcement agencies in Europe who compromised the secure comms. system.

I'd be more impressed if the Director of the NCA had replied 'Yes, it was police abroad that got into the system but it was an International police effort'. I'd prefer the police to keep it factual rather than spin it like marketeers or politicians. You may like your police officers coming over like Marketing people and Politicians but I don't have to buy into that. Everyone gets prizes.


Operation Ore?

Did that stop paedophiles and those that get off looking at sexual images of children using the Internet?

I would suggest to you that it didn't.

[TooLateForAName]

Interesting that all the early news I read implied that the uk police had done this. But actually it was the french.

So in a post brexit world would we get the benefit of similar breakthroughs?