RE: Skoda Octavia vRS - diesel, AWD confirmed

RE: Skoda Octavia vRS - diesel, AWD confirmed

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Arsecati

2,302 posts

117 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Great looking car if you ask me, the AWD diesel estate is probably the second best all-round do everything car you could get for the money - the first being an AWD diesel Superb estate! I was in Germany about 6 weeks ago on the Autobahn (unfortunately the vehicle I was driving was speed-restricted to 120kph!!!), and I could not believe the amount of Octavia/Superb estates there were blasting by in the outside lane. You would always automatically think it was another Audi or Merc, but time after time, it was a Skoda.

Maybe the Germans know something about 'badge snobbery' that we don't!

(I currently drive an Audi A6 Estate, but would quite happily change to a Superb Estate when the time comes around - it's a workhorse at the end of the day, and would leave me more money then to spend on the 'toys'!).

Deerfoot

4,901 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Export56 said:
Skoda are pretty dull workhorse cars, no idea why they do an RS version.
They sell reasonably well and make Skoda money, it’s not that difficult to understand is it?

Baldchap

7,600 posts

92 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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At least VW have the decency to badge the GTD differently to the GTI. These things sell by the bucket load, but a performance model they are not.

If it's like the 184bhp vRS it'll be a great car with a truly atrocious engine that I can only assume is intentional in order to keep the brand 'below' VW and Audi who don't stick performance badges on four pot diesels.

apc321

54 posts

124 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I think that the Octavia / Superb estates are great all round cars.

The only major issue that puts me off them is that there is quite a high lip that you have to lift things over to put them in the back of the car, and more of an issue when you take things out.

Leaning forward to try to lift out of the car a heavy object such as a tv or even a heavy shopping bag over this lip is a sure way to risk doing your back in.

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Deerfoot said:
Export56 said:
Skoda are pretty dull workhorse cars, no idea why they do an RS version.
They sell reasonably well and make Skoda money, it’s not that difficult to understand is it?
Exactly! Somebody is stuck in a time warp.........it's now 2020 Skoda make decent cars, and have done for the past 20 odd years.

Hub

6,431 posts

198 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Quite like it, though it just looks like a facelift, with no real engine advances for the petrol either. Hybrid sounds interesting but heavy.

Lotobear

6,295 posts

128 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I had a VRS DSG diesel estate for 2 years and then a 230 petrol for 2 years - both Meteor, natch!

Two of the best cars I've owned - somewhat dull but very practical, totally reliable and well built. Now have an A4 Allroad - the Skodas seemed better built once you cut through the 'tactile' stuff on the Audi.

I like Skoda as a brand - good no nonsense cars for intelligent buyers

kieranblenk

865 posts

134 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Lotobear said:
I had a VRS DSG diesel estate for 2 years and then a 230 petrol for 2 years - both Meteor, natch!

Two of the best cars I've owned - somewhat dull but very practical, totally reliable and well built. Now have an A4 Allroad - the Skodas seemed better built once you cut through the 'tactile' stuff on the Audi.

I like Skoda as a brand - good no nonsense cars for intelligent buyers
Agree with the above sentiment, I had 3 Skodas before my current Audi and while the Audi is all very nice, a year down the line now the novelty has worn off I struggle to see where the extra cash goes bar the superficial stuff. I will more than likely get one of these or a Superb to replace my A4.

Glosphil

4,352 posts

234 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I owned a 2012 vRS diesel DSG hatchback from 2013 to 2019. Totally reliable except for a failed rear wiper motor that was replaced under warranty.
Only replaced when my annual milage dropped from 15k to 8k. Also the ride was pretty bad and had got to be annoying.
Replaced with a Leon 1.4TSi FR DSG that has a lower standard of interior trim & seats.

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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apc321 said:
I think that the Octavia / Superb estates are great all round cars.

The only major issue that puts me off them is that there is quite a high lip that you have to lift things over to put them in the back of the car, and more of an issue when you take things out.

Leaning forward to try to lift out of the car a heavy object such as a tv or even a heavy shopping bag over this lip is a sure way to risk doing your back in.
Variable boot floor was an option on the Octavia, I have one in my VRS estate.

I’ve done 70k in mine, bought when 6 months old. As a tool and a family car it’s great, 60mpg is achievable, it’s spacious, comfortable, reliable and is quick enough day to day.

DailyHack

3,165 posts

111 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Can't see past that "moustache" radar thingy under the badge on the grill, reminds me of a certain WW2 dictator....not ideal

DBRacingGod

609 posts

192 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I have a 230 vRS...in the five years since I’ve had mine it’s perhaps (not) interesting to see that Skoda haven’t pushed the performance envelope even the tiniest fraction with identical 0-62, VMAX etc.

daytonavrs

781 posts

84 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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ash73 said:
Nothing screams tight git more than these.
or Smart git?

Wonder how many golf's have picked up chaise longues - or for that matter - 3M long wood with the hatch down.

I know precisely the answer to that question regarding the Octavia.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Augustus Windsock said:
mooseracer said:
SAS Tom said:
I believe that vRS is only used in this country and all other markets call it the RS. Possibly something to do with trademarks.
Yes the original Octavia was released as the RS until Ford got arsey.
Got to ask an honest question, why didn’t Porsche get arsey as the 911 2.7 RS surely appeared around 3 years after the first Ford RS (escort circa 1968/70) so did Ford throw their rattle out or come to an agreement.
Plus Audi use the nomenclature too
Not trying to provoke an argument, I’m genuinely ignorant as to the facts without lots of Wikipedia mining...
Something about RennSport and Rallye Sport I seem to recall.

Still, Peugeot threw their toys out the pram at the 901 - hence it was renamed the 911.

Narcisus

8,073 posts

280 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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ash73 said:
apc321 said:
I think that the Octavia / Superb estates are great all round cars.
They are good cars, practical and intelligent choice... but I guarantee the owner will never, ever, buy a round of drinks!
Wrong ..... biggrin

daytonavrs

781 posts

84 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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DBRacingGod said:
I have a 230 vRS...in the five years since I’ve had mine it’s perhaps (not) interesting to see that Skoda haven’t pushed the performance envelope even the tiniest fraction with identical 0-62, VMAX etc.
Yes very unimaginative isn't it.....
"Yes Herr Diess, we are keeping the numbers static so as not to upset anyone at VW"
Then idiots read this sort of crap off the internet treating it as "facts".

In reality 220hp to 230 then 245hp and not even 0.1s difference on the 0-60? VW Bull

Stage 1 basic S/W tuning only no other mods mine did a confirmed 13.7 quarter mile ( have paperwork and some videos of a few runs) and that was my first time as a novice first drag run I ever did.
That included one were I slowly came off the line because I was getting sick of judder, the 2009 335D had launched like a mad one..... but I'd caught and passed it by the lights. They are meant to be 5.5s 0-60 at that year apparently.

Not sure what the 60 was to that but puts in the same category as Elise111R, 2007 550i M sport etc for the quarter?
The elise is 5.1, so is the 550i, if thats with stage 1 mapping, it reasons that the standard now improved tuning car got to be a fair bit better than 6.7 if its gone from 220 to now 245 ?

Yeah, ignore the bull artificial stats from VW regarding Skoda, be good if something just "corrected" this by now.

Wills2

22,784 posts

175 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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daytonavrs said:
Yes very unimaginative isn't it.....
"Yes Herr Diess, we are keeping the numbers static so as not to upset anyone at VW"
Then idiots read this sort of crap off the internet treating it as "facts".

In reality 220hp to 230 then 245hp and not even 0.1s difference on the 0-60? VW Bull

Stage 1 basic S/W tuning only no other mods mine did a confirmed 13.7 quarter mile ( have paperwork and some videos of a few runs) and that was my first time as a novice first drag run I ever did.
That included one were I slowly came off the line because I was getting sick of judder, the 2009 335D had launched like a mad one..... but I'd caught and passed it by the lights. They are meant to be 5.5s 0-60 at that year apparently.

Not sure what the 60 was to that but puts in the same category as Elise111R, 2007 550i M sport etc for the quarter?
The elise is 5.1, so is the 550i, if thats with stage 1 mapping, it reasons that the standard now improved tuning car got to be a fair bit better than 6.7 if its gone from 220 to now 245 ?

Yeah, ignore the bull artificial stats from VW regarding Skoda, be good if something just "corrected" this by now.
The fan boy is strong in this one, digging back 13 years to try and twist a comparison with a 550i for a 4 pot Skoda? Really? Nice touch on shoe horning an Elise 111R in as well...FFS.

I wish I had £1 for every fool in a vRS that tried to show me how fast his car is over the years...I see one on the road and think "tool" onboard, M cars are cat nip to them.







Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 5th July 00:25

NewUsername

925 posts

56 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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ash73 said:
Nothing screams tight git more than these.

Apart from a SEAT

Skodas aren’t particularly cheap these days but are still particularly good

blearyeyedboy

6,284 posts

179 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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ash73 said:
Nothing screams tight git more than these.
Keep going with that mindset; it deflates second hand values, and means I have more money left to buy those rounds of drinks some posters on here claim I don't buy. hehe

Interesting but nothing that moves the concept on. (I tried a Mk1 but didn't buy it, owned a Mk2 and I now own a Mk3.)

As for the hybrid, I'd want to see an answer to this before I considered it:

Link to Skodas performing badly at the Moose Test.

No one's expecting a large FWD hatch or estate to handle like a Porsche Cayman, but this car's predecessors have struck a good balance between practicality and going quickly, and a poor handling lump of a hybrid Will Not Do. I will be interested to see how VAG will respond.

Edited by blearyeyedboy on Sunday 5th July 13:31

Arsecati

2,302 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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ash73 said:
They are good cars, practical and intelligent choice... but I guarantee the owner will never, ever, buy a round of drinks!
Wow, you didn't get any joy from your first post about 'tight gits', so now you try again with this one? Bit sad is it not mate? You get your advances knocked back by someone who once owned a Skoda?