RE: 911 Turbo S Cabriolet vs. McLaren 600LT Spider
Discussion
Great article. A few thoughts...
The appeal of the 911 Turbo Cab- I was talking to my missus last week and saying how ideally I need 4 cars, eg motorway daily cruiser (e63), a small car for snotting to shops (old cooper S), a gt cabrolet for weekends away (mazza grand cab) and a sports car for driving like an idiot (exige).
Or get the 911 turbo that pretty much does 4 cars in one.
The appeal of a Mac- I know a couple of people who’ve got them (570 / 600 / 720) and they keep going back and buying another one. Apparently once you’ve driven one they get under your skin. I’ve a friend with Conti GT (new shape In blue nice car) and 720, and he has pretty much binned off using the GT as the 720 is so usable everyday. The depreciation is savage but if you’re prepared to spend money on fun then that’s your choice.
The appeal of the 911 Turbo Cab- I was talking to my missus last week and saying how ideally I need 4 cars, eg motorway daily cruiser (e63), a small car for snotting to shops (old cooper S), a gt cabrolet for weekends away (mazza grand cab) and a sports car for driving like an idiot (exige).
Or get the 911 turbo that pretty much does 4 cars in one.
The appeal of a Mac- I know a couple of people who’ve got them (570 / 600 / 720) and they keep going back and buying another one. Apparently once you’ve driven one they get under your skin. I’ve a friend with Conti GT (new shape In blue nice car) and 720, and he has pretty much binned off using the GT as the 720 is so usable everyday. The depreciation is savage but if you’re prepared to spend money on fun then that’s your choice.
In summary, both turn really well, go really fast but the McLaren is the one that offers more tactile experience.
I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
A strange comparison this.
The 600LT is a proper supercar, an event to drive and a car to enjoy, but it couldn't be your sole car.
The Turbo S is a compromise but a very good one. You could daily a Turbo S and enjoy every second, but it lacks the special feel of a proper exotic supercar.
It all comes down to what do you want? A weekend toy or a do it all daily?
The 600LT is a proper supercar, an event to drive and a car to enjoy, but it couldn't be your sole car.
The Turbo S is a compromise but a very good one. You could daily a Turbo S and enjoy every second, but it lacks the special feel of a proper exotic supercar.
It all comes down to what do you want? A weekend toy or a do it all daily?
C.MW said:
In summary, both turn really well, go really fast but the McLaren is the one that offers more tactile experience.
I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
For the most part they still are right up there, but Porsche weren't competing with cars from McLaren Automotive 10 years ago.I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Monday 6th July 10:13
C.MW said:
In summary, both turn really well, go really fast but the McLaren is the one that offers more tactile experience.
I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
Its become a GT. If the same drivetrains as fitted were also available in the Cayman and its interior upgraded to the quality of the 911 then even at the same price I suspect many who buy for the driving experience would buy that.I find it difficult to get my head around how far the 911 has drifted from its original appeal in such a short time. Just a decade ago, the 911 was, whether it be a base Carrera or a Turbo, something that would not lose to anything on that front. Maybe except a Lotus or a Caterham or something of that ilk.
Edited by bennno on Monday 6th July 12:25
ddom said:
RudeDog said:
£940 red brake calipers (From the list of options for the 600LT)
...for a spot of red paint???
That’s not too bad tbh. Plenty of worse examples of daft option list prices. Porsche corner the market in those actually ...for a spot of red paint???
Price up Ferrari options if you think Porsche are expensive.
Ares said:
£35k between them on list price......£70,000 between them as tested which is possibly the more representative figure.
That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You'd be better off with a lightly used 600LT for £25k less than the 911 costs in basic spec.That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You could then buy EClass Merc estate / Golf R / RRS / Whatever for daily use.
Assuming if your spending the thick end of £200k on a car it's not the only one you own, so you may well have a, "proper" super car & options for a daily
The McLaren looks very special but based on previous Mclaren reliability issues you wont see much of it to enjoy the way it looks
The 992 looks good, will do everything it sets out to, every time & wont depreciate anything like the Mclaren
For me the 992 wins on everything except looks
The McLaren looks very special but based on previous Mclaren reliability issues you wont see much of it to enjoy the way it looks
The 992 looks good, will do everything it sets out to, every time & wont depreciate anything like the Mclaren
For me the 992 wins on everything except looks
bennno said:
Ares said:
£35k between them on list price......£70,000 between them as tested which is possibly the more representative figure.
That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You'd be better off with a lightly used 600LT for £25k less than the 911 costs in basic spec.That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You could then buy EClass Merc estate / Golf R / RRS / Whatever for daily use.
Ares said:
bennno said:
Ares said:
£35k between them on list price......£70,000 between them as tested which is possibly the more representative figure.
That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You'd be better off with a lightly used 600LT for £25k less than the 911 costs in basic spec.That £70k would buy a hell of a lightweight track car to fill the void the 600 leaves in rawness above the 911, but leave the daily use/4-seater ability intact?
You could then buy EClass Merc estate / Golf R / RRS / Whatever for daily use.
Ot alternatively as you have said, buy the 992 plus spend 70k on a track car to spend the the budget of a fully optioned 600LT thats discontinued and cant be purchased....
Edited by bennno on Monday 6th July 14:27
I can't say I'm a fan of the 'cyclopes' camera on the front of the 992. Like the A/C condensers, which always get smashed up by stones, this will be too. Why Porsche don't put some sort of protection over these points, when they're front facing and so low to the ground, is beyond me.
I’m not a huge fan of Mclarens overall, seen a few up close and driven one briefly, it’s their interior I don’t particularly like and the chassis design and lowness that makes getting in and out not the most pleasant experience plus, there’s no denying they’re rather special to drive though and I can see the appeal, for me , I’d pick the 911 though or the F8 Spider in the other article, now that is gorgeous.
tjw110 said:
Assuming if your spending the thick end of £200k on a car it's not the only one you own, so you may well have a, "proper" super car & options for a daily
The McLaren looks very special but based on previous Mclaren reliability issues you wont see much of it to enjoy the way it looks
The 992 looks good, will do everything it sets out to, every time & wont depreciate anything like the Mclaren
For me the 992 wins on everything except looks
Please tell your actual Mac experience?The McLaren looks very special but based on previous Mclaren reliability issues you wont see much of it to enjoy the way it looks
The 992 looks good, will do everything it sets out to, every time & wont depreciate anything like the Mclaren
For me the 992 wins on everything except looks
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