Who buys modern day MGs?
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That was mine. One of the first 3s bought new in 2013, I was 23
The door seals leaked, I added extra generic D shape ones.
I stuck some washers to the back of the clutch pedal because it done this weird rev thing otherwise when changing gear.
The EML occasionally made an appearance.
Fuel gauge liked to go on strike.
The paint chipped if you looked at it wrong.
DRLs Failed Twice
The Stereo display and illumination would drop out randomly. Would also try and make bluetooth phonecalls despite not being connected to anything.
It was gutless. 1.5 NA 105hp. I knew this, but I thought it would loosen up a bit as I put miles on but it didn't. Compared to a 1.4 105 MG ZR it was breathless.
More expensive to service than my current i30N!!
...
I liked the look of it. Specced the Piano Black/Red Interior Kit as well which looked nice.
The seats (fabric) were some of the best I've sat in.
It handled very nicely. Gearbox good, but let down by breathless engine.
It didn't squeak or rattle ever. Cabin materials no worse than Ford, Vauxhall etc.
Fuel economy was decent.
I put 20,000 miles on it in 18 months and got rid. Losing 4k in the process (it was just over 10k new). If the engine had a bit more go I might have been able to look over the other stuff, but I just hated the thing by the end.
Edited by BenRichards89 on Sunday 5th July 23:17
Edited by BenRichards89 on Sunday 5th July 23:18
I went past Brown & Gammons not too long ago (that's a name with connotations it certainly didn't have 10 years ago!) and they appear to have fully bought in to the new MG models. If it keeps the side of the business going that sells parts and provides advice on the classics that's no bad thing in my book.
They look no better or worse than the alternatives in their price bracket, the EV seems to be priced keenly too.
Could certainly do with at least a sporty version of each model though... If they could do a V6-powered large saloon (possibly call it the Magnette) for around £30-40k they'd take a lot of business from Skoda, Ford et al.
They look no better or worse than the alternatives in their price bracket, the EV seems to be priced keenly too.
Could certainly do with at least a sporty version of each model though... If they could do a V6-powered large saloon (possibly call it the Magnette) for around £30-40k they'd take a lot of business from Skoda, Ford et al.
I always thought they should have done a quick MG3, 200-250 bhp, pile it high and flog it cheap(ish), they had a turbo variant in the MG6.
Prob not that easy, but sure they could have come up with something other than an N/A K series, ironically, thirty years later the HG issues all sorted.
Prob not that easy, but sure they could have come up with something other than an N/A K series, ironically, thirty years later the HG issues all sorted.
Car I found to be few and far between till I worked for a while in a town called Falkirk.
They had a dealership and a reasonably successful one I'd expect given I saw more MGs there than on the rest of my travels put together.
Another car I saw more of than ever before whilst in Falkirk was the Ssangyong Tivoli.
They had a dealership and a reasonably successful one I'd expect given I saw more MGs there than on the rest of my travels put together.
Another car I saw more of than ever before whilst in Falkirk was the Ssangyong Tivoli.
My parents are after a mid sized SUV, so naturally they're looking at the new ZS. As has been said, there aren't many cars that can be bought for under 15k brand new that come with the level of kit as standard and a 7 year warranty. For someone who doesn't care what they drive, it's hard to look past.
BenRichards89 said:
That was mine. One of the first 3s bought new in 2013, I was 23
The door seals leaked, I added extra generic D shape ones.
I stuck some washers to the back of the clutch pedal because it done this weird rev thing otherwise when changing gear.
The EML occasionally made an appearance.
Fuel gauge liked to go on strike.
The paint chipped if you looked at it wrong.
DRLs Failed Twice
The Stereo display and illumination would drop out randomly. Would also try and make bluetooth phonecalls despite not being connected to anything.
It was gutless. 1.5 NA 105hp. I knew this, but I thought it would loosen up a bit as I put miles on but it didn't. Compared to a 1.4 105 MG ZR it was breathless.
More expensive to service than my current i30N!!
...
I liked the look of it. Specced the Piano Black/Red Interior Kit as well which looked nice.
The seats (fabric) were some of the best I've sat in.
It handled very nicely. Gearbox good, but let down by breathless engine.
It didn't squeak or rattle ever. Cabin materials no worse than Ford, Vauxhall etc.
Fuel economy was decent.
I put 20,000 miles on it in 18 months and got rid. Losing 4k in the process (it was just over 10k new). If the engine had a bit more go I might have been able to look over the other stuff, but I just hated the thing by the end.
Edited by BenRichards89 on Sunday 5th July 23:17
Edited by BenRichards89 on Sunday 5th July 23:18
PrinceRupert said:
4k to run one of those for 18 months seems very expensive.
Reading that back, that's an error. It was actually worse than that. The p/x for it was 4k (!) , so I actually lost 6. Madness I know, but I wanted it gone. I'd hope the more recent models are better, mine was one of the early ones, but I'd certainly not go there again. Argleton said:
I think you have to be at least 60. Wear beige trousers, checked shirts, pullover and wear gold rimmed glasses. Wife called Margaret. Live in a bungalow. Washes the car every Sunday.
Probably would be buying a Rover if they still made them. Went to Hyundai via Kia but now want something 'British' and with a good badge.
I am nearly 60, wear checked shirts, wife called Margaret and live in a bungalow . I’ve got a Subaru WRX.Probably would be buying a Rover if they still made them. Went to Hyundai via Kia but now want something 'British' and with a good badge.
On paper, they aren't bad. They are fairly popular here in Australia and have been selling in reasonable numbers as they undercut everything else in the segment and are loaded with kit for the money.
Does it offer anything different, or above and beyond what is already on the market - probably not. They will sell on price for years to come.
Does it offer anything different, or above and beyond what is already on the market - probably not. They will sell on price for years to come.
Falconer said:
Argleton said:
I think you have to be at least 60. Wear beige trousers, checked shirts, pullover and wear gold rimmed glasses. Wife called Margaret. Live in a bungalow. Washes the car every Sunday.
Probably would be buying a Rover if they still made them. Went to Hyundai via Kia but now want something 'British' and with a good badge.
I am nearly 60, wear checked shirts, wife called Margaret and live in a bungalow . I’ve got a Subaru WRX.Probably would be buying a Rover if they still made them. Went to Hyundai via Kia but now want something 'British' and with a good badge.
We're considering one for a few reasons:
1) It's much cheaper than anything comparable from other brands
2) Whilst it's very much a budget product in terms of perceived quality and features, it seems very well constructed and engineered
3) We're not badge snobs
I wouldn't buy a petrol one because their engines and gearboxes are pretty poor, but in the budget family EV market the ZS is really in a class of one at the moment and is actually a pretty good car. Yes the eNiro is better, but it's not £10k better, at least for us. The shorter range Leaf is closer on price but just isn't as good a car.
I think we're going to see a flood of Chinese cars coming onto the European market in the next few years to take advantage of how slow the European makers have been to cotton onto affordable EVs and the European car makers, especially budget end of the mainstream manufacturers like PSA, Nissan/Renault and Ford, should be worried.
1) It's much cheaper than anything comparable from other brands
2) Whilst it's very much a budget product in terms of perceived quality and features, it seems very well constructed and engineered
3) We're not badge snobs
I wouldn't buy a petrol one because their engines and gearboxes are pretty poor, but in the budget family EV market the ZS is really in a class of one at the moment and is actually a pretty good car. Yes the eNiro is better, but it's not £10k better, at least for us. The shorter range Leaf is closer on price but just isn't as good a car.
I think we're going to see a flood of Chinese cars coming onto the European market in the next few years to take advantage of how slow the European makers have been to cotton onto affordable EVs and the European car makers, especially budget end of the mainstream manufacturers like PSA, Nissan/Renault and Ford, should be worried.
Edited by kambites on Monday 6th July 06:56
Family member has a new ZS EV...bought purely based on them wanting an EV, needing the space and the price Vs spec it offers.
I was very sceptical but in reality it drives really well and has a nice interior. For an EV they are hard to ignore if that's what you're after.
I was very sceptical but in reality it drives really well and has a nice interior. For an EV they are hard to ignore if that's what you're after.
Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 6th July 07:03
J4CKO said:
JDB96 said:
I once read a review of the 6 (no longer made I think) and recall it saying that it was pretty good fun to drive. Bet it feels awfully cheap inside though.
I also recall that the 3 was supposed to be a bit of a laugh.
My mum and dad bought one, it was cheap and they had it for ages and it never gave any trouble, the interior wasnt much cop but it went fairly well and did its job, they replaced it with a new Qashqai and love that. My dad also has an MG ZT 190 which is basically as new, must be one of the best left.I also recall that the 3 was supposed to be a bit of a laugh.
They are everywhere around here, now that the Japanese stuff has jumped in price and even Hyundai/Kia's pricing are creeping too, old folk in particular who have to have new are choosing these or Dacias, but I think as other posters have said the MG badge still has a bit of kudos among pensioners. There's also a dealer locally in the villages so that helps too.
Having said that, the new HS is a very well sorted bit of kit for the money if a bit dull and the 3 is insanely cheap on PCP with a 7 year warranty.
Having said that, the new HS is a very well sorted bit of kit for the money if a bit dull and the 3 is insanely cheap on PCP with a 7 year warranty.
donkmeister said:
If they could do a V6-powered large saloon (possibly call it the Magnette) for around £30-40k they'd take a lot of business from Skoda, Ford et al.
There's a thought. Better still a V8 would nudge me in their direction; an up to date Z series Magnette really appeals now that Jaguar has given up.Had one of those MG3 things as a rental on our last visit to NZ , took it back after a week and swapped it for a Toyota Corolla which felt like a Rolls-Royce in comparison, it was an auto which made the feeble engine even more breathless, it handled OK but the fit and finish was not good at all but the seats were good but the car had constant electrical problems with lights and driver info and every day the EML light came on at least once. Was glad to bo shot of it (it was the cheapest car on the rental fleet by a long way and I can only think the importer was giving them to the rental company for nothing).
Nickbrapp said:
In wales
Everyone, I see loads every single day, 7 year warentee, 0% PCP and fixed amounts, I think that 4X4 thing is £279 a month
The people buying them are the people who used to buy Kia’s or fords, or Vauxhall’s, or a Fiat everyday people who don’t really care about cars but fancy something new, may not be better than a Kia but a Kia is just a car. Stops and goes.
They are actually quite decent cars. White goods but so are so many other brands
Lots of young people getting a 3 as a first car, dirt cheap at £199 a month, etc.
https://grammarist.com/spelling/warrantee-warranty/Everyone, I see loads every single day, 7 year warentee, 0% PCP and fixed amounts, I think that 4X4 thing is £279 a month
The people buying them are the people who used to buy Kia’s or fords, or Vauxhall’s, or a Fiat everyday people who don’t really care about cars but fancy something new, may not be better than a Kia but a Kia is just a car. Stops and goes.
They are actually quite decent cars. White goods but so are so many other brands
Lots of young people getting a 3 as a first car, dirt cheap at £199 a month, etc.
Blimey,that MG3 - the small hatch can be on the drive for less than £190 a month if you don't do too many miles! Still gopping, though.
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