RE: Jaguar XE S | Spotted

RE: Jaguar XE S | Spotted

Monday 6th July 2020

Jaguar XE S | Spotted

Jaguar was forced to cull the V6-powered XE last year. That's a shame...



The Jaguar XE S never found the amount of fans it really deserved. Supercharged V6 power, a sorted chassis and handsome looks, it was far more than just a leftfield choice to the BMW 3 Series. It was a proper Jaguar and for a while seemed to be the only enjoyably fast XE the firm appeared willing to make (save for the ultra low volume Project 8, which it priced for no mere mortal to buy). But against better established competition it sold too few examples and was replaced with the 2.0-litre-powered P300 last year.

The more efficient four-pot is no slouch, reduces mass over the nose and comes twinned with all-wheel-drive, making the car seem potent enough. But it simply isn't as evocative as a well-balanced V6 driving the rear wheels - espeacially when the smaller engine suffered a significant power deficit compared to the silky supercharged unit.


Early cars got 340hp and 332lb ft of torque, which was quick enough – although Jag saw fit to lift power to 380hp with the 2017 facelift. The constant though was the engine's character, embellished by supercharger throttle response and mellow vocals. Where rivals relied on twin-scroll turbocharging to provide dual-stage boost, Jaguar's motor builds more progressively - and sweetly. It is as satisfying to operate as it is to hear – and capable enough to deliver a 5.1 second 0-62mph time.

But it's the chassis which really gives the XE its edge. At 1,665kg, the aluminium-based S is no featherweight, but it’s use of aluminium suspension components helps it deal with road imperfections and cambers very confidently. The rear-drive, eight-speed auto XE S has never needed overly firm spring and damper rates to achieve its composure; instead, good body control, crisp steering and a sweet balance made sure of it. Combined with the personality of that engine, the car is very rewarding to drive.


It's very easy to live with in normal use, too. True enough, its rivals have sharper cabins and better infotainment - but the XE delivers a sufficiently high calibre of both to seem convincing in isolation. For the money you'll pay for one now, its residuals dented by only modest popularity and a host of alternatives, it probably over delivers. Certainly there is nothing the same age from its segment which steers better, because the XE earned that accolade at full price.

Today’s Spotted, a 19,000-mile, 2016 example, is up for just under £24k. Sure, it isn't quite as economical as the XE its maker will sell you today or as capable in the wet - but it's a better sounding, smoother sort of Jaguar with torque and talent to spare. It's also one of the most underappreciated performance saloons of the last ten years and is not much more than half price. Let's hope it finds the fan it deserves.


SPECIFICATION | JAGUAR XE S
Engine:
2,995cc, supercharged V6
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 332@4,500rpm
MPG: 34.9
CO2: 194g/km
First registered: 2016
Recorded mileage: 19,000
Price new: £44,865
Yours for: £23,895

See the original advert here

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Kipsrs

Original Poster:

431 posts

49 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Sold!
Obviously found the fan. . .
Nice bit of kit. .

Speed1283

1,164 posts

95 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Always liked the idea of one of these, that engine and chassis sounds like a great combination. I just never really liked the look of the XE, I think it's the rear end, it's obviously not a bad looking thing, just not as nice as a decent spec XF (subjective of course).

If I was doing few miles I'd be tempted, the 340i makes a compelling alternative though, but is obviously more common and won't handle as well. Maybe the XE S is the type of car that you'll drive just for the joy of it? used to do this with my z4 coupe, never done that with my big diesel barge.

Grantstown

969 posts

87 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I went to a Jag dealer and was interested in buying their demonstration XE S. They took my details and said they’d call me back with a price. That phone call was never made and I ended up with a 435d, which I suspect is a little dull in comparison. Good salesmen should always call back!

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Truly disapointing car in my experience.

Drave one of these for a few days and found the detail design very poor with the dash in particular being horrid with that daft lip under the screen, the interior a let down and the dynamics not that brilliant. Like the x-type before I've always felt this is a car overhyped by the UK press at launch that everyone is supposed to love, but actually really rather hum-drum.

For some reason left me remembering a Holden Commodore as was quite comfy and the six quite smooth - but ultimately very dull - actually think the Holden was better suited to its task (I was in Autralia so made sense there).

Put simply - the Jag may as well be badged a Ford and that is the price point it deserves.

Also may have just been the one I drove - but don't fit a sunroof if it is almost unusable over 50mph.


dhamilton99

35 posts

67 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Love these and do think its a real shame you can't get the facelift with this engine. Interior really lets these pre facelifts down imo. Chassis on these is good fun even with the pov spec diesel.

Filibuster

3,148 posts

215 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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While i like the front of these, the rear isn't very nice looking.
Not bad looking per se, but not nice at all.

Up until the B-pilar, it's good looking and from there on it seems the designer went to the pub instead and let the intern finish it.
Interior is the same thing, it's ok but the center air vents make it look like a VW Polo.

Chassis and engine makes for a very good car otherwise!

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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The stand out disappointing aspect of this car was the interior imho. Really poor effort, considering the rest of the car' repertoire was by most accounts very good, and this includes to my eyes, the exterior design.

The 3 series was the target. It had been the lead medium sports saloon for decades because it appeared at least, to do everything it was asked of, really well. This included design, engineering, perceived quality and performance.

So, I was disappointed when the XE came out with an interior like that. Jaguar knew very well they had to get everything spot on to compete, yet knowing this, they signed it off as it was. No excuses about funding issues either. Tata was and remains willing and supportive of the brand. It was sadly, what skill there was at the time, which ultimately fell short.

I may be in the market for this segment in the near future and I know that for me, it will be the Italian and German brands that attract me most.

cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I've never liked the rear end on these, but this model has always interested me and I'd quite fancy one if it had a manual gearbox. Rare car though.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I've never been able to tell the difference between this and the XF on the street until I've seen the badge. Interior doesn't look that great imo

Nerfbat

95 posts

126 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I wanted one of these, but couldn't find a used one anywhere, and the deals on a new one were lousy - I've an M340i now.

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Still fancy one of these. Not driven an XE but have a XF S 380PS.

Engine is so linear (but disappointingly quiet in the XF) and therefore can pile on the pace without really noticing it. I has an uncanny ability to isolate you from everything but be communicative through the key bits, the steering and seat. Can easily correct slides etc as you know exactly what the car is doing.

Hoping the XE S would be similar but just be a little more playful.

tomic

720 posts

145 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Does anyone know why they didn't make an estate version? Would have been a nice looking car.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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When the XE was new, I wanted one, right up to the moment I sat in it.

Cramped, poor interior put me off.

Looks like they've held up well though, and perhaps worth a second look now?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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They do drive well. My dad has a 184d R Sport one.

Although he's looking at getting something more exciting now. It's served him well of over 50,000mi.

The rear is a little cramped but the front is nice and I think it's reasonably well screwed together , not any worse than my 1 series (F2x), granted the F30 is a direct rival but there's not much difference in interior quality between F2X and F3X.

Is it as nice as an Audi interior? No. But it's certainly not a Dacia :-)
The only thing I'd say is some of the trip computer bits on the dash are confusing to use (even for a techno geek like me!)

The jag is really comfortable, rides well and does handle really well for a "normal" saloon car.

Speed1283

1,164 posts

95 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Think I'd be more temped with a Giulia if I was in the market, although I've always thought it was a shame that Alfa didn't offer a 6 cylinder to sit between the veloce and the Quadrifoglio, the 4 cylinder veloce does not excite that much (though I'm sure it's capable), it's then a huge jump to the Quad in terms of buying cost and I assume running costs.

I guess that's where cars like this Jag tempt, but as noted above, it's competing with the 340i and S4.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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tomic said:
Does anyone know why they didn't make an estate version? Would have been a nice looking car.
I guess they didn't have, or want to spend, the money on development - which is a shame as I agree they should have launched it at the same time.

Is it me or does £24k still seem expensive? I know it's fairly low miles and quite rare, but still.. I think the rarity would have been the initial asking price - wow! But I suppose one up from this is the Project 7 (or 8, I get confused - not the F Type, the XE) so theres value in a way there i suppose.

covmutley

3,025 posts

190 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I love mine, (although its up on auto trader for 16,500 if anyone wants to buy it!) Bloody covid!

I agree the rear is a bit of a let down compared to the rest of it. I don't agree on the interior being bad, but I guess its subjective. I prefer it to the dull 3 series.

I was looking at a m140i originally, but struggled to find one with a decent spec. The nice thing with the xe s is that they are well kitted out as standard.

Good stereo, adaptive suspension, parking sensirs and camera, blind spot monitoring, auto dipping headlights, cruise control, heated leather, electric seats, etc etc

The engine is lovely. Good sound without being too intrusive or fake and with the supercharger whine!

It also has a split personality. Dynamic mode really wakes it up!!!!

Edited by covmutley on Monday 6th July 11:26

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Mrs Dicky has had the 380 version for the last year and it's been an excellent car for us so far. I'd imagine the performance and handling is lost on her, but it certainly isn't on me hehe
It's genuinely one of the best small saloons I've ever driven. Happy to smoothly and quietly pootle around, cosseting you from the outside world.
And then when you want to have more fun, as already said, switch it to dynamic mode and it completely changes character. Louder, angrier, firmer and more 'poised' if you like.


craig9367

52 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I fell in love with this car in red with the big alloys and then was delighted to find it drove fantastically if slightly skittish in the wet due to the imediate torque availability. Rear leg room was the only real issue I found, which could easily be a deal breaker if you had older children you needed to ferry I suppose.

Knowing the market well I made a dealer a good offer on a used one they had just got in, they would not budge and were quite rude. Bought an ISF instead the next day. Noticed the dealer listing the car for 1k less than I offered them last time I saw it!

Doent maybe feel as special as the F but I would say the jag was easier to have fun with at lower speeds.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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My dads one smile

Has carbon splitter and diffuser.
Twin exhaust made up for it (dpf and scr still in place).
Remap (was really hard to get sorted but my guy got it done)
H&R lowering springs.
Front windows are not tinted. Just how it looks in this pic.

He wanted an XE-S but think he wants an M4 now.