RE: First Aston Martin DB5 Goldfinger completed

RE: First Aston Martin DB5 Goldfinger completed

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Muzzer79

9,953 posts

187 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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hu8742 said:
Am I right in thinking that these multi-million pound cars can't be driven on the road? If so, I'm staggered that they've sold any.
You are right.

It's a toy. Basically, a full-size Corgi Goldfinger toy that actually drives.

There's enough people with squillions in the bank to buy one and more power to them. If I had squillions, I'd have one too biggrin

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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You only have to read through probably two threads in the Aston forum before someone has mentioned James bond. It really is pretty cringe worthy, but you can see why the company think cars like this need to exist.

However its a beautiful shape and looks like it has much more character than most contemporary cars, so it gets a pass from me. I would however have to remove the idiot toys. I also don't think they'll be worrying about my opinion.

UTH

8,938 posts

178 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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ReformedPistonhead said:
Well if you have the money what would you rather have, a Monet on the wall or this in a glass box in one of your many rooms in your large country house?

Simple choice for me.....
Good point well made, and plenty of paintings that are several times the price of this car! Simple choice for me as well, if I had the money of course.

dbs2000

2,689 posts

192 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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As bad as 007 number plates. Looks beautiful but not being able to use the thing, whats the point.

DMC2

1,834 posts

211 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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What a stupid and pointless waste of time, money and effort. Maybe if Aston Martin tried harder to develop the road cars that actually keep them afloat than this cr@p then they wouldn't be in the awful position they are in. Embarrassing.

oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Is this really so much different to the holiday homes that people buy and never use/visit ?

If you can afford it - good luck to you and who are we to judge what you do with your money. If it makes AM a $1m per car then that also is a huge benefit.

Looking at what drives around in some of the countries around the world I wonder if you could register it as road legal in some of them??

DanielSan

18,786 posts

167 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Chubbyross said:
bakes said:
So not road legal and not something for a track...where can you ever use this? It seems such a waste of beautiful craftsmanship to be a static object.
This is my issue as well. The original was and is such a thing of beauty. It’s like sticking a comedy moustache on the Mona Lisa.
Aston can't make the car road legal from the factory due to the legal issues of producing a 'new car built to 60's safety standards. What you can do though is take it to RML who will IVA it for you and then it can be used on the road. Along with your Vulcan at the same time if sir wishes....

Olivera

7,140 posts

239 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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hu8742 said:
Am I right in thinking that these multi-million pound cars can't be driven on the road? If so, I'm staggered that they've sold any.
They've also sold a whole run of DB4 Zagato continuation cars at £6m each (most expensive car ever sold), which are not road legal from the factory either.

It's clear that owners buying such cars aren't one bit bothered that it can't ever be driven on the road.

soxboy

6,221 posts

219 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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UTH said:
ReformedPistonhead said:
Well if you have the money what would you rather have, a Monet on the wall or this in a glass box in one of your many rooms in your large country house?

Simple choice for me.....
Good point well made, and plenty of paintings that are several times the price of this car! Simple choice for me as well, if I had the money of course.
Simple choice for me too: a Monet every time. An original painting created by a world renowned master (which continue to appreciate in value) or one of a run of toy cars for grown up 8 year olds that cost 6 times as much as one that you can actually take on the road.

The target market for this reminds me of the Roger Moore character in Cannonball Run, a wealthy man who pretends to be James Bond and still lives with his mum.

DeejRC

5,790 posts

82 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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There are lots of roads in the world where it can be driven. And fairly easily. Just not in the UK.

To be perfectly honest you could probably drive it quite easily around most of Europe all summer and not have a problem.

JxJ Jr.

652 posts

70 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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oilit said:
If it makes AM a $1m per car then that also is a huge benefit.
The amount of money made from little side projects like this are insignificant in the scale of an OEM.

The benefit is some quick, cheap, easy, albeit limited, profit and some headlines.

The bigger downside is it damages the brand, something that takes years to build up and years to repair. Every OEM targets a younger demographic (1-series, A-class, Rolls-Royce's Black Badge, etc.) while Aston sends mixed messages and reinforces that it's a brand for old men. This is why no one else does it, apart from another badly run car company.

DaveyBoyWonder

2,500 posts

174 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Whilst I'm a massive fan of the Bond films, I wonder how much cheaper it would be to get a road legal one without all the Bond-stuff bolted onto it? I'd rather save some money and be able to turn up to a village pub for a sunday roast and a pint in one of those than drive around my private estate pretending to be a fictional character whilst firing a pretend machine gun and spraying pretend oil over my own roads.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Is the second photo; with smoke billowing out, not just standard classic Aston fare?

virgilio

420 posts

145 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Idiocies like this make me think punitive taxation is a good thing.

Can you imagine the kind of person throwing 3 million quid at an undriveable fake old car with fake glowing machine guns?
Somebody compared it to buying a monet; methinks it is more akin to buying a gold toilet with a broken flush.

Edited by virgilio on Monday 6th July 13:53

oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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JxJ Jr. said:
The amount of money made from little side projects like this are insignificant in the scale of an OEM.

The benefit is some quick, cheap, easy, albeit limited, profit and some headlines.

The bigger downside is it damages the brand, something that takes years to build up and years to repair. Every OEM targets a younger demographic (1-series, A-class, Rolls-Royce's Black Badge, etc.) while Aston sends mixed messages and reinforces that it's a brand for old men. This is why no one else does it, apart from another badly run car company.
I would rather they made a million at the moment than lost a million - survival is the only game in town. Whether this project is right or wrong is irrelevant as it has been done - you can't wind the clock back.

Branding is an expensive game, and you are right - it costs little to destroy it, but a fortune and time to rebuild it.

I would argue that it's not just old men who like James Bond. Go to the cinema when the new bond movies launch - its young kids as well....


Whether it appeals from a car perspective to all sexes is a valid question.

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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AJB88 said:
Just a thought but reckon most of these will be bought by million/billionaires abroad, chances are they could be "legal" in other countries?
This is what I was thinking. I'd be surprised if it was illegal to drive it in every country.

Roundm

161 posts

118 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Do you think Elon Musk will order one ?

to go with the space rockets and sharks with frikin lasers.....

smile

I think it's awesome that they built these - and found someone to pay them to do it !

and I'd bet they could be SVA's and got on the road - just not through AM

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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If I was a multi billionaire I'd have one. Buy one of those deserted ghost towns in the US and fk about pretending to have car chases.

I'd want blank firing machine guns though and it's so tragic that I probably wouldn't tell any of my billionaire friends I'd bought one.

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I love watching old James Bond films.

I can't pretend to be Connery (as Bond) though. I neither look like he did then, nor act like he did. For these reasons, the Bond DB5 is not for me.

However I would be interested to buy a continuation model if it was a pure DB5. Like buying the old car brand new! I would then drive it in Switzerland (if legal) and enjoy the car on, among other roads, the Furka Pass whilst not pretending to be Bond...


hu8742

242 posts

125 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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This is probably a question for another thread, but does anyone else think the James Bond franchise should sack AML and choose a Bentley, like the early books? I think the new Conti has lost its original footballers car tag and is actually pretty classy. Just think what it would do to Aston as a business without that cow to milk.