RE: Ford Focus ST (Mk3) | PH Used Buying Guide

RE: Ford Focus ST (Mk3) | PH Used Buying Guide

Monday 6th July 2020

Ford Focus ST (Mk3) | PH Used Buying Guide

Built from 2012 to 2018, the third-generation Focus ST was Ford's first global performance car



Key considerations

  • Available from £9,500
  • 2.0-litre petrol four, turbocharged
  • Good mix of pace and handling
  • Well liked by press and punters alike
  • Interesting Golf GTI alternative

Search for a Mk3 Focus ST here

OVERVIEW

Back in May we did a Buyer's Guide on the 2016-18 Ford Focus RS Mk3. Taking a view on that story and on the forum comments that followed it, you might conclude that the Mk3 RS was a talented car that didn't quite fulfil the market's expectations or its own potential.

In February there was a Buyer's Guide on the Mk2 ST, the softer but highly characterful five-cylinder Focus that was on sale from 2005 to 2011. These days, used Mk 2 STs can be picked up for as little as £2,500.

Today we're going to look at the Mk3 Focus ST, available from 2012 to 2018, and notable for being Ford's first global performance car. Our objective, as ever, is to pick through its good and not so good points, and in the process hopefully also discovering whether the Mk3 ST represents some kind of happy medium between the much loved Mk2 ST and the considerably faster, more efficient but perhaps harder to love 350hp Mk3 RS.


In its bid to become the Cinderella of sporting Foci, the Mk3 ST starts off with what many Mk2 ST owners might consider to be a disadvantage: its engine. If you did a survey asking Mk2 ST owners what they liked most about their cars, it's a pretty safe bet that the majority of them would point to the characterful 2.5 five-cylinder turbo engine that Ford borrowed from the Volvo S40 T5. In the 1,360kg five-door version of the Mk2 ST, that T5 motor provided 225hp at 6,100rpm and 236lb ft from 1,600-4,000rpm, enough for a 0-62mph time in the mid-6s and a top speed of 152mph.

The Mk3 ST ditched the tuneful but juicy five in favour of a 2.0 EcoBoost turbo four which had a bit more power (around 25hp, taking it to 250hp, with a new torque peak of 251lb ft from 1,750-4,500rpm) but also a bit less character. Although the weights of the Mk2 and Mk3 five-doors were practically identical there was no real advance in the Mk3's performance - but its official combined fuel consumption was markedly better at 39.2mpg versus the five's 30.4mpg. That economy boost (to coin a phrase) might not have seemed all that relevant for owners but it was very important for Ford's global image.

Mk3 buyers worried that they might be losing out on performance, or at least not gaining any, were visually reassured by the new car's more aggressive exterior design featuring a bigger rear wing, an intake-heavy front bumper, central-exit exhaust and a few more instruments in an interior with more carbon-u-like trim. The three-door was dropped and an estate version was added, while the three trim options - ST1, ST2 and ST3 - were the same as the Mk2 ST's.


A Mk3.5 refresh model was announced in late 2014, followed shortly after by the release of a selection of performance hikes by independent specialist Graham Goode Racing. Well respected (and warranty-preserving) tuners Mountune caught up later that same year with a factory-approved Mountune 271hp hop-up kit, which they've since augmented with a bunch of other stuff like front-mounted intercoolers, crossover pipes and so on.

A 185hp 2.0 TDCi was added to the ST range in 2015. The diesel started off with a six-speed manual gearbox, but a year later a PowerShift dual-clutch gearbox became available. The TDCi was understandably a fair bit slower than the petrol ST (8.1sec for the 0-62 and a top speed of 135mph) but equally understandably it was a lot cheaper to fuel. We'll be concentrating on the petrol STs here.

SPECIFICATION - FORD FOCUS ST MK3

Engine: 1,999cc, inline four, turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 251@1,750-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 6.5 secs
Top speed: 154mph
Weight: 1,362kg
MPG (official combined): 39.2 (41.5 on post-2015 3.5 refresh cars)
CO2: 169g/km (159 on post-2015 3.5 refresh cars)
Wheels: 8.5x18
Tyres: 235/40
On sale: 2012 - 2018
Price new: £21,995 (hatch), £23,095 (estate)
Price now: from £9,000

Note for reference: car weight and power data is hard to pin down with absolute certainty. For consistency, we use the same source for all our guides. We hope the data we use is right more often than it's wrong. Our advice is to treat it as relative rather than definitive.



ENGINE & GEARBOX

The Mk 3's engine lends itself more readily to 'safe' tuning than the Mk2's, with a vast array of parts and tuning options available. An induction kit, new intercooler and remap will take power up to around 300hp. On certain sections of the internet you might see something about 2.0 EcoBoosts blowing up if drivers called for too much boost when the car wasn't quite ready to deliver it, either through insufficient temperature or too high a gear.

The standard ST's noise was nowhere near as boring as Ford detractors might like to claim. Pre-facelift Mk3s ducted sound into the cabin via a tube from the engine bay to the back of the dashboard as the Mk2 did, but we're pretty sure that the 3.5 had a symposer to put synthesised noise through the speakers. Decatted exhaust systems from the likes of Dreamscience or Akrapovic sound amazing.

Some early cars were recalled - in the US at least - to fix a fault on the ignition loom (wrong gauge/poor splicing leading to rubbing on the gearbox) that could intermittently cause bad idling, the revs heaving up and down between 400rpm and 1,300rpm and the engine sometimes cutting out entirely when the clutch was dipped. Stuttering could manifest itself when turning right too as the cable insulation wore away and the bare wire created a short circuit on the gearbox casing, so it's worth checking to see if any remedial work has been done. It's not certain that UK dealers were quite as ready to sort this out as their litigation-fearing US counterparts. The pipe between the intercooler and turbo has been known to split, but that work was usually done under warranty.


When you're sat in the car with the engine on, look at the interior light (switching it on first, ye nit). If it flickers when you put the headlights or heated screen on, suspect the impending arrival of a failed alternator.

The six-speed manual works well and the clutch is light, but switching to a Mountune short-shifter will make an appreciable difference to lever travel. Sadly, a limited slip differential wasn't standard fit, the ST relying on electronics to rein in any unruliness. For enthusiastic drivers, getting clean traction out of a bend was a messier operation in an ST than it would have been in, for example, a Mk5 Golf GTI. That was especially true if you're carrying a big load in the back.

Annual/12,500-mile servicing costs are very reasonable, one owner reporting paying under £250 for a service which included not only new spark plugs but also the cost of the MOT. Even the dearest three-yearly major service is under £370. Some say the cambelt needs changing every 10 years or 125,000 miles and the job will cost around £340. Other reckon it's every 87,500 miles. Most sensible folk will probably replace it before either of those figures comes up.

If things go wrong, Ford Assist's breakdown cover through the AA gets good reports.


CHASSIS

When the Mk3 ST came out, the Focus was still the best-handling car in its class, so it's no surprise to find that the warmed-up version drives really nicely. Anyone coming straight from a Mk2 ST to a Mk3 ST would be pleasantly surprised by the more neutral balance of the later car, with none of the Mk2's nose-heavy feel. The Renaultsport Megane 265 is still well ahead on handling purity, thanks in no small measure to its mechanical LSD. If you're coming from a standard Focus or a Golf be prepared for a certain degree of nobbliness as the ST's suspension is firmer and less plush than either, with uprated dampers and anti-roll bars and a 10mm lower ride height than the straight Focus. In isolation however it's still excellent, with flat cornering and tight body control over crests.

Another thing the ST didn't have besides a 'real' LSD was RevoKnuckle suspension, so wheel-hop under acceleration can be a problem. It's a near-250hp front-driver at the end of the day, so it's only fair to expect that. Pressing the traction control button once to put the car into Sport mode helps, and the 3.5s had new measures put in place to reduce the torque steer. It's all relative and nothing unmanageable, but if you try hard enough you'll still find it even on a 3.5. Installing a Mountune rear motor mount (about £150) is a very worthwhile and easy way not only to tone down the scrabbling but also to tighten up the gearchange quality and the feel of the car generally. Better still, it's a job that can be done on your drive with the car up on jacks. You may feel a tiny bit more vibration through the wheel or the floor at idle, but it's more than worth it for the benefits.

The steering is very high geared at two turns lock to lock, responses quickening as lock is applied. The turning circle isn't the greatest, to put it mildly. You'll be gritting your teeth as kids point and laugh at your pathetic attempts to negotiate the Ikea car park, especially if your car doesn't have rear parking sensors. It's hard to know where the back of the car ends unless you are a confirmed practitioner of the 'touch then back off' method. If while you're wrestling with the wheel you think you might be hearing a clonk or ping on full lock, it could be that one of the front coil springs is broken. Some early cars did have issues with steering racks which could suddenly become very heavy at motorway speeds. It wasn't an EPAS failure but a problem with the gearing arrangement that was specific to STs. These difficulties were rectified under warranty as dealer fixes when people complained, rather than under a full recall.

Goodyear Eagle F1s were original fitment tyres but many owners prefer Michelin Pilot Sport 3s. Aftermarket brake parts abound, but some of them aren't very good. Out-of-true discs will generate an unsettling rumbling and juddering. Noises from the back that sound like they might be wheel bearing related are sometimes actually tyre related. STs are not that tolerant of budget rubber. 19in ST Design alloy wheels became an option on the 3.5s.


BODYWORK

This type of car does tend to get driven more enthusiastically than, say, a Perodua Nippy, and accidents do happen, so check hard for signs of repair work around the lights, wonky bonnet fits and panel gaps generally. Anything less than perfect should jump out at you because this type of thing is very good on uncrashed STs.

Door seals can go off over time and non-opening air flaps in the front grille have been reported. Water can get in the boot either around the wheel arch or in the spare wheel well, and into the non-sealed headlamps and the high-level brake light too. Ford dealers were sent a bulletin on how to put vents into the headlights which improved matters without totally curing it. At least one dealer allegedly fobbed owners off with a nonsensical 'LEDs generate heat and it's normal condensation mate' line.

Flickering daytime running lights were another pain in the bottom, but this is a known thing and software fixes are available now (although they don't always fully resolve the issue).


INTERIOR

Although there weren't that many differences between the regular Focus interior and that of the ST, the most obvious one being the somewhat stuck-on looking turbo gauge dials atop the dash, the sporty model did have the big bonus of super-comfy Recaro sports seats - although not everyone 'fits' in them. They didn't come with bolster or lumbar support adjustability either but the ones in the ST3 were full rather than half leather and had 8-way power adjustment. Another plus point with the Mk3 compared to the Mk2 was the lower mounting of the seats which did away with much of the latter cars' 'sitting on rather than in' feeling.

Things could feel a bit claustrophobic in the back thanks to the high window line, and the A-pillar restricts forwards visibility a little too much, but most agreed that the Mk3's cabin environment was superior to that of the Mk2, with more toys and better quality materials (though they still weren't quite up to German levels). There again, when it was new the ST was getting on for £3,000 less than a Golf GTI.

All STs are well equipped. The 3.5's updated version of the Sync infotainment system is a noticeable improvement on the previous car's crash-prone one, where pulling the fuse could sometimes be the only way you'd get your phone to connect, but it can still struggle especially with Apple products.

The vast array of options across the three trim levels means that you'd have to spend a fair bit of time looking for two absolutely identical STs. Here's a quick guide as to what you get as standard with each level. ST-1s have 18in alloys, air-con, keyless go, DAB radio and Bluetooth. Moving up to ST-2 adds part-leather seats, automatic lights and wipers, heated windscreen, auto-dim rear-view mirror and upgraded Sony hi-fi. ST-3s have full leather, rear parking sensors, heated front seats, bi-xenon headlamps, powered mirrors, Rock metallic alloys and LED daytime running lights.


If the car you're looking at has 'Sony' on the tweeter units by the door mirrors, that means it has the optional premium audio setup. The downside of the premium system (apart from fiddly controls) is that it puts a subwoofer on top of the spare wheel, robbing the boot of depth and space it can ill afford to lose. There's 363 litres with the rear seats up, but that's with a tyre repair kit instead of a full-size spare. One of those in place will knock the space back to 277 litres. A space-saver takes it up to 316 litres. The equivalent litreages with the back seats folded flat (which they do do, despite some testers' failure to manage it) are 1,148, 1,062 and 1,101. The estate is obviously the answer if you have a family to shift about, offering around 480 or 1,500 litres (seats up and down) with a repair kit.

Option packs like Style (red brake calipers and illuminated scuff plates) and Driver Assistance (AEB, blind-spot monitoring and lane-departure warning) could be added to ST-2s and ST-3s from new. The bulbs go with depressing regularity on those Style scuff plates, so spend your inspection time looking for better options like a reversing camera (which was a £750 add-on new) and the excellent heated steering wheel.

Security was a big problem for owners of keyless Focus STs. Robbers would copy the keyless signal from a distance and then nick your car whenever it suited them. Metal-lined 'Faraday pouches' will solve that problem for under a tenner.

GPS antennae can fail and creaking windscreens are common to the Mk 3 Focus range. There was a recall in September 2017 for non-deploying side- and knee-airbags.


VERDICT

The Mk3 ST has won more than one 'best hot hatch' award from the press, and it only takes one spirited drive on a good mix of roads to work out why. It's not a Megane or an Astra VXR, or even an especially epic trackday car, but none of that is meant as a criticism. Think of it more as a fine, useable alternative to the Golf GTI, Octavia vRS or Leon Cupra. It's not a lot slower than the Focus RS on real-life roads, and with Mk3 STs starting at around £9,000 it's a lot more affordable than the cheapest RS, which will you'll rarely find for less than £20,000.

You'll find repaired Mk3 STs for under £8,000 but if you want to steer clear of those you'll be spending at least a thousand pounds more. On PH Classifieds we found this 2014 61,000-mile ST-2 in red for £9,795 and a 56,000-mile top-spec ST-3 in black for £9,995.

For shy retiring types here's a 2013 Tangerine Scream ST-3 with 50,000 miles and an £11,795 price ticket. £13,300 will get you this 2015 34,000-mile ST-2 estate while £15,991 will secure this Mk 3.5 47,000-mile ST-3 in Stealth Grey. The dearest car on PH Classifieds at the time of writing was this 5,000-mile 2018 Mountune MP275 ST-3 in Deep Impact Blue at £22,495.


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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,437 posts

180 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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These would make a great performance daily I reckon. I've always fancied one and I really like the Recaro seats in them. cool

KPB1973

918 posts

99 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Yeah, I agree. They're one of those cars where the seats and driving position just feel 'right'. Bit of a button-fest on the dash on the pre-facelift though.

I really wanted to test drive one but (long story) the dealer only had the manager's diesel ST estate for me to try. The torque steer in 2nd and 3rd was terrible. It felt really under-developed.

_ppan

449 posts

69 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I've always understood that while the Fiesta ST might be less mature it's way more fun. If you need the space this would be better but reading owners opinions on both the Fiesta would be more fun if you don't need the space.

That being said, I have though about the yellow estate for the family, in a fantasy world where my wife couldn't be bothered by the color biggrin

Edited by _ppan on Monday 6th July 10:12

Nyloc20

568 posts

63 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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My wife's on her second Mk3 ST3, just started the last year of a 3 year lease. She's a home carer doing 30 miles a day round York so we went for diesel both times. I use it for work on longer distance jobs to stretch its legs. Very happy overall, I've been a fast Ford fan for over 50 years. It's quite a hard ride for anyone in the back although grandkids never complain. Front lock is poor and we've had a few issues with tyre sensors over the years. Otherwise they've both been brilliant, loads of long UK trips and Monaco Historic GP, Mille Miglia and Classic Le Mans a couple years ago. No problems, good reliable cars and plenty fast enough for us.

Hub

6,430 posts

198 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I've had my estate over 5 years now, longest I've owned a car (I do fancy a change now though!)

It has been a good all rounder and the above is a fair summary. On the right tyres the torque steer criticisms often raised I don't find to be true - well only when going uphill with a lot of weight in the boot! In the wet traction/wheel hop is an issue, and it is a bit scrappy, but being a bit wayward is fun, no?!

My main criticisms would be the poor turning circle, and the rear legroom is tight for baby/child seats because the front seats are huge!


Jamescrs

4,474 posts

65 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I owned one of these for around 18 months, was the Facelift ST-3 petrol with all the bells and whistles in blue.
It was a really good all round car, always liked the way it looked and drove.
Mine had most of the Mountune upgrades thrown at it, all fitted at Mountune. THE MP275 kit was a really good upgrade, also had the exhaust fitted and engine mount as mentioned in the article and it was fantastic. I later went for the MR300 upgrade and I was left feeling disappointed by that, it didn't feel really significantly better than the MP275 kit and I felt a bit short changed by that one.

Sold it because I needed a bigger car in the end, there's probably faster hot hatches for the money but as an overall package it was really very good.

chrisp84

408 posts

213 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I like mine - a 3.5 ST2 with the style pack and the Mountune MP275 kit which was fitted by the supplying dealer when brand new.

I can't comment on the standard car, but with the Mountune kit on it's plenty quick enough...not quite a brutal as my dad's old modded Impreza STI hatch (running about 330bhp) but not miles behind. It struggles to get the power down so you can't just mash the pedal to the floor, but once you know the tractions their it'll pull hard all the way to the redline. Handles nicely, fairly neutral as the article says, understeer only a massive problem when applying too much power as I previously mentioned. Ride is firm but not bone shaking and it holds onto the road surface well on a typical UK backroad.

Sync 3 is good and the rest interior is quiet and well put together - no complaints at all. Seats are great and make me smile whenever I see them!

Reliability (3 1/2 years 28000 miles in) has been perfect with a squeaky clutch pedal the only thing that's needed to be 'fixed'.

It's the first car I've ever bought new without a test drive and it's the one I'm finding most difficult to replace. I look at other nice cars and think I'd like to have them, but then can't bring myself to let go of such a good, quick and entertaining all-rounder.

_ppan

449 posts

69 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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chrisp84 said:
I like mine - a 3.5 ST2 with the style pack and the Mountune MP275 kit which was fitted by the supplying dealer when brand new.

I can't comment on the standard car, but with the Mountune kit on it's plenty quick enough...not quite a brutal as my dad's old modded Impreza STI hatch (running about 330bhp) but not miles behind. It struggles to get the power down so you can't just mash the pedal to the floor, but once you know the tractions their it'll pull hard all the way to the redline. Handles nicely, fairly neutral as the article says, understeer only a massive problem when applying too much power as I previously mentioned. Ride is firm but not bone shaking and it holds onto the road surface well on a typical UK backroad.

Sync 3 is good and the rest interior is quiet and well put together - no complaints at all. Seats are great and make me smile whenever I see them!

Reliability (3 1/2 years 28000 miles in) has been perfect with a squeaky clutch pedal the only thing that's needed to be 'fixed'.

It's the first car I've ever bought new without a test drive and it's the one I'm finding most difficult to replace. I look at other nice cars and think I'd like to have them, but then can't bring myself to let go of such a good, quick and entertaining all-rounder.
If you're so fond of it, have you ever contemplated having a proper LSD added?

hadleighhammer

59 posts

147 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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"The Mk 3's engine lends itself more readily to 'safe' tuning than the Mk2's, with a vast array of parts and tuning options available. "

I think the opposite of that is true.

chrisp84

408 posts

213 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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_ppan said:
If you're so fond of it, have you ever contemplated having a proper LSD added?
Yep, thought about it as used to do a fair few trackdays, wanted to do some more and this is the only car we've got that's really trackable. Would do LSD and brake pads/lines/fluid probably to start with. Wouldn't bother just for the road though and trackdays aren't a priority at the moment unfortunately.

menousername

2,107 posts

142 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Prices seem to be creeping back up on the face-lift ones. Were coming down towards high 13s now appear to be back in high 15s (petrol HB)


matthew_wigens

13 posts

205 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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_ppan said:
I've always understood that while the Fiesta ST might be less mature it's way more fun. If you need the space this would be better but reading owners opinions on both the Fiesta would be more fun if you don't need the space.

That being said, I have though about the yellow estate for the family, in a fantasy world where my wife couldn't be bothered by the color biggrin

Edited by _ppan on Monday 6th July 10:12
I absolutely loved mine! most fun I've had in a car with that level of practicality - absolutely the perfect family car - by no means devastingly expensive to run, boat loads of space, great fun to drive on my own in a more elaborate manor, it was slightly unrefined, but that added to it all to be honest.




Pity this happened twice. unfortunately there was a lot of this going on. little sods! Hope they were caught with a van full of them and justice was served

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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"On certain sections of the internet you might see something about 2.0 EcoBoosts blowing up if drivers called for too much boost when the car wasn't quite ready to deliver it, either through insufficient temperature or too high a gear."

OK, so this is a used buying guide, yes? What does that even mean?

If it's a buying guide, there should at least be the tiniest bit of effort put in to guide potential punters as to whether this is actually an issue or not.

Darren93

151 posts

105 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I drove one of these a couple of months ago and wanted to like it but it just didn't do it for me.

For a full size hatch it felt cramped, boot was small (for the size of car), seats were too high, steering wheel was far too big, steering was too light and lifeless, ride was no better than the mk7 Fiesta ST (tyres may have been 50 psi?).

All just my opinion or course, a real disappointment as a fast Ford fan. Went for a mk8 fiesta ST instead which lived up to the hype for me.

Hub

6,430 posts

198 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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charltjr said:
"On certain sections of the internet you might see something about 2.0 EcoBoosts blowing up if drivers called for too much boost when the car wasn't quite ready to deliver it, either through insufficient temperature or too high a gear."

OK, so this is a used buying guide, yes? What does that even mean?

If it's a buying guide, there should at least be the tiniest bit of effort put in to guide potential punters as to whether this is actually an issue or not.
It means the engine is reliable, just don't be silly and floor it in 6th at 30mph, to avoid low speed pre ignition.

99t

997 posts

209 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Had mine just over a year, very low mile 65 plate ST3 with style pack. I like it very much and I went for the subtle colour option...







Added a Bluefin which takes the performance from "plenty adequate" to "hilarious when it hooks up"

Unsurprisingly traction (with Pilot Sport 3 tyres) went from "ok" to "inadequate" in the dry, and from "hopeless" to "don't even bother" in the wet!

Now this might sound like a bad thing, but I actually quite like it - it requires the application of feel and delicacy to get the best from, which is a challenge I enjoy, although I'll freely admit that my feel and delicacy sometimes falls short of the mark. In which case I just pretend that I meant to act the hooligan!!

Traction aside, the biggest compliment I can give it, is that it feels a little like my old 16v Integrale to drive normally. That is to say very direct steering, really planted on the road and quite firm with pretty good feel and feedback for a modern car. Confidence inspiring. No rattles or bits of trim falling off though, so fortunately that's where the comparison falls down smile

Other than needing to replace the battery before Christmas, I've had no issues with it so far, not even a Sync crash or glitch. Expect I'll keep it a long time.


P1H

418 posts

148 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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My thoughts:
- Pre-facelift looks a bit rough, post-facelift looks great
- Engine very strong, feels at least 250bhp
- Chassis / damping is brilliant for a fast B road
- Grip is really impressive and it lift off over-steers constantly if provoked which is great
- Seating position is poor, feels far too high up
- Interior is well put together but ultimately looks and feels quite crap
- Wasn't a huge fan of the gearbox
- I'd be less offended by the diesel if they had called it a ST-D (semantics)


GTEYE

2,093 posts

210 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I really miss mine, and its interesting to read the positive comments from owners.

Its one of those cars that is actually more than the sum of its parts, and its not perfect (torque steer), but......behind the wheel it has that Ford feel that just makes it feel so good to drive. It just somehow gets under your skin.

The Mk3.5 is the one I'd recommend and those Recaros are the best seats I've had in any car, regardless of price.


Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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matthew_wigens said:
Pity this happened twice. unfortunately there was a lot of this going on. little sods! Hope they were caught with a van full of them and justice was served
Snivelling thieving ittle stbags. frown



mooseracer

1,876 posts

170 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Darren93 said:
For a full size hatch it felt cramped, boot was small (for the size of car)
I went from a mk5 Golf to one and this is one of my abiding memories - I was really surprised just how little room inside there was (or at least seemed)