Passing Cyclists!!

[Centurion07]

heebeegeetee said:

Parked cars are an enormous source of congestion, in residential streets they prevent children from playing in the street safely

This isn't real is it? Seriously?

Kids shouldn't be playing in (or near IMO) roads anyway.

[pigeyman]

DoubleD said:

bigandclever said:

Schmed said:

bcr5784 said:

MrGTI6 said:

I will only pass cyclists if I'm certain it's safe to do so, leaving them plenty of room. Unless they're riding two-abreast, in which case I'll do my utmost to scare the living crap out of them.

That's moronic! The reason groups of cyclists ride 2 abreast is to make it EASIER for motorists to overtake. If a group of cyclists ride single file then they occupy twice as much "length" on the road.

That is nonsense. With single file on many roads you can easily overtake with oncoming.

Primary road positioning and two or three abreast nonsense will just antagonise maniacs driving two tonnes of metal.

If only all roads were as nice and wide as that one in the picture.

+1

[evoraboy12]

pigeyman said:

DoubleD said:

bigandclever said:

Schmed said:

bcr5784 said:

MrGTI6 said:

I will only pass cyclists if I'm certain it's safe to do so, leaving them plenty of room. Unless they're riding two-abreast, in which case I'll do my utmost to scare the living crap out of them.

That's moronic! The reason groups of cyclists ride 2 abreast is to make it EASIER for motorists to overtake. If a group of cyclists ride single file then they occupy twice as much "length" on the road.

That is nonsense. With single file on many roads you can easily overtake with oncoming.

Primary road positioning and two or three abreast nonsense will just antagonise maniacs driving two tonnes of metal.

If only all roads were as nice and wide as that one in the picture.

+1

+2

[pigeyman]

bcr5784 said:

MrGTI6 said:

I will only pass cyclists if I'm certain it's safe to do so, leaving them plenty of room. Unless they're riding two-abreast, in which case I'll do my utmost to scare the living crap out of them.

That's moronic! The reason groups of cyclists ride 2 abreast is to make it EASIER for motorists cars to overtake.

Apply the same logic to someone driving a bin lorry or towing a trailer and you'll find that the two abreast approach is just plain fking annoying.

Edited by pigeyman on Saturday 11th July 16:54

[heebeegeetee]

Centurion07 said:

This isn't real is it? Seriously?

Kids shouldn't be playing in (or near IMO) roads anyway.

I completely disagree. Children have just as much right to access roads as anyone else, and in residential streets, and cul-de-sacs and the like, the street should be their play area. What has become normal over the past few decades is for children to be locked indoors, and the streets, paid for out of the public purse, given over to the storage of personal property.

Streets are for people, but the way we use them is for them to be taken over solely by only those who own a car. It's time to be more equitable.

[g7jhp]

Jazzer said:

Have I misunderstood The Highway Code all these years?

Today was the worst I have ever witnessed with cyclists clogging up the roads, causing massive frustration for drivers. ....time they paid some road tax perhaps?

Jazzer

Starts off prentending to rant at drivers.

Then trolls cyclists on the road tax.

Trouble is it shows how uneducated he is.

Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), but commonly called car tax or road tax, is a big running cost with cars. It can be anything up to £1,000 or more a year, depending on how environmentally-friendly the car is. Here you can find out how much road tax you’ll pay on your vehicle.

Bicycles are environmentally friendly therefore they would have zero VED so pointless.

VED doesn't get spent on roads it goes into the central pot.

But to answer the first question. Yes a small minority of drivers are a nightmare and do seem hellbent on passing even if it's dangerous.

Any a recent report found cyclists don't cause congestion and it's pointless trying to get past at all cost.

[Johnnytheboy]

This thread isn't really taking off. Where's yellowjack?

[pigeyman]

heebeegeetee said:

Centurion07 said:

This isn't real is it? Seriously?

Kids shouldn't be playing in (or near IMO) roads anyway.

I completely disagree. Children have just as much right to access roads as anyone else, and in residential streets, and cul-de-sacs and the like, the street should be their play area. What has become normal over the past few decades is for children to be locked indoors, and the streets, paid for out of the public purse, given over to the storage of personal property.

Streets are for people, but the way we use them is for them to be taken over solely by only those who own a car. It's time to be more equitable.

The streets are for cars. Not 2 weeks ago I saw some poor lad (must've been about 8) come buzzing out of a hidden drive way on his scooter with no concept of traffic and slammed straight into the side of a moving Transit. Luckily the driver had quick reactions, had he not the kids head would have been wedged in the wheel arch for sure. Said kids mum - who was NOT Mila Kunis - came stumbling outside, grabbed him by the arm and then just dragged him back inside like it happened all the time. She didn't even acknowledge us lmao


I get what you're saying about kids should be outside playing more often and that, but some families are fking retarded.

Edited by pigeyman on Saturday 11th July 16:12

Edited by pigeyman on Saturday 11th July 16:13

[Centurion07]

heebeegeetee said:

Centurion07 said:

This isn't real is it? Seriously?

Kids shouldn't be playing in (or near IMO) roads anyway.

I completely disagree. Children have just as much right to access roads as anyone else, and in residential streets, and cul-de-sacs and the like, the street should be their play area. What has become normal over the past few decades is for children to be locked indoors, and the streets, paid for out of the public purse, given over to the storage of personal property.

Streets are for people, but the way we use them is for them to be taken over solely by only those who own a car. It's time to be more equitable.

Whilst I agree that parked cars are a problem in some areas (not surprising though given modern garages are deliberately built too small for modern cars), the idea that roads should be used as playgrounds is absolutely idiotic.

There is a difference between access to roads and kids dicking around in them where there is a very strong likelihood of them getting run over.

[pigeyman]

Centurion07 said:

There is a difference between access to roads and kids dicking around in them where there is a very strong likelihood of them getting run over.

[VonSenger]

Dont like rolls said:

I wonder what cyclists would say if there was a massive increase in Horses on the roads/time trial courses

This. Inconsiderate s.

[InitialDave]

Yuuup, it's a PistonHeads thread alright.

[heebeegeetee]

Centurion07 said:

Whilst I agree that parked cars are a problem in some areas (not surprising though given modern garages are deliberately built too small for modern cars), the idea that roads should be used as playgrounds is absolutely idiotic.

There is a difference between access to roads and kids dicking around in them where there is a very strong likelihood of them getting run over.

Is it? And yet it's been the norm for a century or two. It's only changed in fairly recent times. Some want to get back to the norm. https://playingout.net/

[Gweeds]

VonSenger said:

This. Inconsiderate s.

Get in the fking bin.

[irocfan]

Centurion07 said:

Whilst I agree that parked cars are a problem in some areas (not surprising though given modern garages are deliberately built too small for modern cars), the idea that roads should be used as playgrounds is absolutely idiotic.

There is a difference between access to roads and kids dicking around in them where there is a very strong likelihood of them getting run over.

So much this ^^^

Roads are not for playing on. BECAUSE IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. Anyone who advocates children playing on roads is being moronic

[gazza285]

[Vipers]

Slightyl off topic, cycyling along downward gradiant about 30 mph, very narrow road, and about 40 seconds from where it joined the dual carriageway.

Car approached behind me and tooted, no room to pass anyway, so carried on, at the end of the road we stopped, I asked the "Lady" why she tooted me said I should have let her pass, err.................... road was just about a vehicle width.

We exchange a few choice words, after she used "F" a few times, she said I was upsetting her daughter in the back, I politely told it was her upsetting her daughter not me.

An isolated incident, but honestly.

[DoubleD]

Vipers said:

Slightyl off topic, cycyling along downward gradiant about 30 mph, very narrow road, and about 40 seconds from where it joined the dual carriageway.

Car approached behind me and tooted, no room to pass anyway, so carried on, at the end of the road we stopped, I asked the "Lady" why she tooted me said I should have let her pass, err.................... road was just about a vehicle width.

We exchange a few choice words, after she used "F" a few times, she said I was upsetting her daughter in the back, I politely told it was her upsetting her daughter not me.

An isolated incident, but honestly.

Yep, we all have stories about how another road user has annoyed us.

[Bathroom_Security]

105.4 said:

When it comes to passing cyclists and horses, I always try and pass wide and slow. The consequences of an accident with either of these two types of road users doesn’t bare thinking about. I don’t want to be responsible for the death of either of them, and any sort of incident with a pedestrian, horse rider or cyclist is going to be viewed very dimly by the Courts, (against the car driver).

As for cyclists paying Road Tax, well, I’m a cyclist, I pay Road Tax on two vehicles. How much more tax should I be paying for the privilege of riding my bike? Give me a figure?

This.

Hate idiots, like it or not cyclists have every right to be on the road and they aren't going anywhere so just be patient.

[Centurion07]

heebeegeetee said:

Centurion07 said:

Whilst I agree that parked cars are a problem in some areas (not surprising though given modern garages are deliberately built too small for modern cars), the idea that roads should be used as playgrounds is absolutely idiotic.

There is a difference between access to roads and kids dicking around in them where there is a very strong likelihood of them getting run over.

Is it? And yet it's been the norm for a century or two. It's only changed in fairly recent times. Some want to get back to the norm. https://playingout.net/

Yes, it is.

Are you honestly trying to argue that because something HAS been the norm in the past that it should revert, not CONTINUE, but revert back to that state despite society having moved in completely the opposite direction?

Even if the only things in the road were horses and bikes, advocating children use that very same space to play is ridiculous.