Passing Cyclists!!
Discussion
I did a short run on my bike today, just ten miles, kept to the cycle path where possible, inconvenienced a few drivers as possible.
I got some exercise, enjoyed it, got where I was going.
But giant man babies will shout "Cyclists, not fair" through their adult dummy vape thing, from their shagged out diesel having been held up for 30 seconds.
I think some drivers just find cyclists a mild annoyance, they are when you are in a car but guess what I am on here drivelling on some my life has not been spent completely stuck behind "Lycra clad" bottoms, its seconds and in a given journey youj spend more time waiting behind thousands of cars and sit quite happily in queues of them
I am happy to pay VED, go on government, stick £100 VED on cycling, would pay it as it would be worth it to stop the whingers going on about it, 10 years after all sensible folk realised it is a non argument. its NEVER going to happen, the government are fully behind cycling as part of sustainable transport. The bicycle is a wonderful invention and should be more widely used, the lack of stock at bike shops suggests it will, the popularity of E Bikes also points to greater uptake.
Some cyclists are dicks that go through red lights but guess what, they probable drive as well and are dicks in a car, and the rest of their life, I stopped at a red temporary light and two cars carried on through, and its apparently cyclists that do that, well, not always.
All I expect on my bike, is to be overtaken sensibly and 99.99 % of drivers are bloody marvellous, and to be honest I have a low bar of expectation, even fairly close passes, only had a few that have rattled me properly in my years cycling and a plague of screaming dutch cock rot on those drivers, passing at 80/90 when racing, maybe 18 inches to 2 ft away was a highlight.
Cars to too big for everyone to go everywhere at all times in one, we misuse them when there are better tools for the job, cars have their place but the bicycle isnt going away, so get used to it and stop your bottom lip going.
I got some exercise, enjoyed it, got where I was going.
But giant man babies will shout "Cyclists, not fair" through their adult dummy vape thing, from their shagged out diesel having been held up for 30 seconds.
I think some drivers just find cyclists a mild annoyance, they are when you are in a car but guess what I am on here drivelling on some my life has not been spent completely stuck behind "Lycra clad" bottoms, its seconds and in a given journey youj spend more time waiting behind thousands of cars and sit quite happily in queues of them
I am happy to pay VED, go on government, stick £100 VED on cycling, would pay it as it would be worth it to stop the whingers going on about it, 10 years after all sensible folk realised it is a non argument. its NEVER going to happen, the government are fully behind cycling as part of sustainable transport. The bicycle is a wonderful invention and should be more widely used, the lack of stock at bike shops suggests it will, the popularity of E Bikes also points to greater uptake.
Some cyclists are dicks that go through red lights but guess what, they probable drive as well and are dicks in a car, and the rest of their life, I stopped at a red temporary light and two cars carried on through, and its apparently cyclists that do that, well, not always.
All I expect on my bike, is to be overtaken sensibly and 99.99 % of drivers are bloody marvellous, and to be honest I have a low bar of expectation, even fairly close passes, only had a few that have rattled me properly in my years cycling and a plague of screaming dutch cock rot on those drivers, passing at 80/90 when racing, maybe 18 inches to 2 ft away was a highlight.
Cars to too big for everyone to go everywhere at all times in one, we misuse them when there are better tools for the job, cars have their place but the bicycle isnt going away, so get used to it and stop your bottom lip going.
ruggedscotty said:
thing is with a VED the bike would need to be licenced and would require to be registered. and if registered it should be made to display a registration plate. hey presto accountability and those license plates could be used to trace bad cycling.
Would kids on balance bikes also need to have VED and licences? I'm sure the Police have plenty of time to investigate a report of kid wobbling down a pavement on their way to the sweet shop.fiju said:
Cyclists don't cause congestion, they simply cause everyone else behind them to have to slow down in order to get past safely. On a tight road with lots of obstacles this can be a real pain, especially as the traffic backs up due to said cyclist(s). Then you get the riding two abreast thing. What the hell is that all about? Some of the bellends even have the cheek to ride in the middle of the road.
A few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.
Arhhhhh you were doing so well right until fA few days ago whilst on my way to work,I saw one guy on an electric scooter riding on the road whilst going uphill. He was causing a massive chaos with the traffic behind him. There was a perfectly good pavement to use with no pedestrians on it. Some of these f
kers deserve to have bricks thrown at them. And don't get me started on horses and their dhead riders (usually women). The fkers act like they have some sort of right to be on the road... and even let their animals st all over it. This is within the m25 ffs. Shift down, hand on horn, fk your horse, I hope it dies.king a horse and hoping it would die. What’s the poor horse ever done to you. Nothing I bet.Now the pompous self entitled t
t Sat on it beating it with a stick. Have at them. I’m an a DC5 forum and one of the guys on there had a tospot on a horse with an extra long whip block the road and have at it against the cars paintwork with the whip. Leaving marks on the car.
General consensus seems to be leave the horse alone. Drag said pompous self entitled t
t off the horse and beat him with the stick. As always there are good and bad cyclists, car owners, horse riders.
Mark83 said:
ruggedscotty said:
thing is with a VED the bike would need to be licenced and would require to be registered. and if registered it should be made to display a registration plate. hey presto accountability and those license plates could be used to trace bad cycling.
Would kids on balance bikes also need to have VED and licences? I'm sure the Police have plenty of time to investigate a report of kid wobbling down a pavement on their way to the sweet shop.For the following reasons,
Cyclists arent causing environmental damage, they want to encourage it.
Cyclists dont kill 2000 people every year like cars do.
Cyclists are fitter and healthier on average, less NHS use, even allowing for accidents.
Would cost more than it raises.
Would potentially cause those on low income hardship
Why hold up all the traffic though? When I’m on a bike I pull in and let the cars past. It’s not too difficult. This primary road positioning bullst needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.
No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
t needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
Schmed said:
Why hold up all the traffic though? When I’m on a bike I pull in and let the cars past. It’s not too difficult. This primary road positioning bullst needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.
No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
Are you sure youve ridden a bicycle on the road?t needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
I'm very respectful to cyclists but sometimes feel they must be thinking "just fking overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up.
When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
king overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up. When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
Centurion07 said:
rossw46 said:
Centurion07 said:
rossw46 said:
vehicle excise duty, based on emissions...
Good one.Same engines, same emissions, different VED rates.
The Mustang in particular is a good one. There's a (roughly) six month production window in which the V8's benefit from the £140 a year rate as they're built after the rates were changed. However, due to price increases over the same period, the list price pushed back them back into the expensive band.
The government might like to pretend that VED is all about emissions but it isn't. The early S550 Mustangs are on the expensive rate, the six-month lucky ones are on the cheap rate before being bumped back up to the expensive rate due to the list price. Same emissions, wildly different VED rates.
Don't get me started on owners of weekend Mustangs that do less than 5K a year versus owners of 2 litre hot hatches, for example, that do +25K and the total emissions of each.
If VED were truly about emissions then it would be abolished and added to the price of fuel.
well done on your observation, which bears absolutely no relevance to the point, which is why bicycles pay no VED, very well well done chap.Henz said:
I'm very respectful to cyclists but sometimes feel they must be thinking "just fking overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up.
When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
I cycle daily, sometimes people are overly cautious, I look over my shoulder every few seconds and read the road ahead, I usher people to pass me when i can see it'll be clear for them, some of them don't and just hold back (mainly because they're about to turn into a side road soon).king overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up. When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
But i would rather someone be cautious than reckless and drive past me too close or too quick. It's something I really hate... and yes.. because of it I have jumped some red lights (where deemed safe) in order to get ahead and pass certain areas of bad road...because there are lots of drivers who can't understand that 2-wheeled vehicles need to avoid pot holes/dips.
105.4 said:
When it comes to passing cyclists and horses, I always try and pass wide and slow. The consequences of an accident with either of these two types of road users doesn’t bare thinking about. I don’t want to be responsible for the death of either of them, and any sort of incident with a pedestrian, horse rider or cyclist is going to be viewed very dimly by the Courts, (against the car driver).
As for cyclists paying Road Tax, well, I’m a cyclist, I pay Road Tax on two vehicles. How much more tax should I be paying for the privilege of riding my bike? Give me a figure?
Is that not just the same as saying I already pay tax on two cars why should I pay for a third.As for cyclists paying Road Tax, well, I’m a cyclist, I pay Road Tax on two vehicles. How much more tax should I be paying for the privilege of riding my bike? Give me a figure?
Henz said:
I'm very respectful to cyclists but sometimes feel they must be thinking "just fking overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up.
When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
Indeed - and most cyclists (myself included) would prefer the vehicle to be in front rather than behind us king overtake" rather than sitting behind them waiting for a good opportunity to give as much space as possible, instead of flooring it round and in cutting them up. When I'm out on the bike (admittedly rare) I hate the feeling of a car lurking behind me.
Schmed said:
Why hold up all the traffic though? When I’m on a bike I pull in and let the cars past. It’s not too difficult. This primary road positioning bullst needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.
No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
The point you are missing here is that someone plodding along at 6mph (presumably you), is considerably easier to pass and need not worry too much about "deciding when it is safe to be overtaken". however, someone doing 20-25mph is considerably harder to get around, often moving into the centre of the lane will stop someone from dangerously passing when there may be obstructions ahead they haven't yet seent needs to stop. It is not for the overtakee to decide when it’s safe to be overtaken and try to block people from getting past.No issue with horses, they need plenty of space. Some cyclists are on a mission however and when they meet a white van driver nature will take its course...
I both drive and ride bikes... indeed I've just got back from a 28 mile ride up to the M25 and back from Richmond.
I've had three incidents in approx 20,000 miles. Two were old people passing too close (lack of spatial awareness) and the second was narrowly missing a head on collision with a Range Rover in Richmond Park who came round a blind bend on thr wrong side of the road overtaking a 20 man peloton who seemed to think they were in the Tour de France.
The majority of car and van drivers are considerate, I just think sometimes cyclists need to match this.
Riding along two abreast may be legal but is it necessary?. The same for riding in a huge peloton which just causes frustration to other road users who find it then difficult to overtake.
I came up behind three lycra clad middle aged blokes the other day... they were all carrying a bit of timber and were obviously mates but they were riding wheel to wheel at a slow pace. I could almost understand the draughting if they were more serious club riders but the speed they were going at (sub 20 mph) it wouldn't have made much difference.
In this case why couldn't they have split up a bit and left maybe 3-4 car lengths in between so that cars on a busy road weren't having to try and pass all three at once?. I dropped back leaving a 3-4 car gap for a mile or so before I turned off just so I didn't make the situation worse
All it takes is a nit of consideration from both sides and 9 times out of 10 it works.
That's not to say I'm a saint..I will regularly ride through red lights in London when I'm commuting on my Boris bike. I take the view it is safer to do that than try to pull away as the light changes on an uphill stretch of the Embankment at 630am when you are surrounded by construction traffic who can't see directly in front of them because of the height of their cabs.
I've had three incidents in approx 20,000 miles. Two were old people passing too close (lack of spatial awareness) and the second was narrowly missing a head on collision with a Range Rover in Richmond Park who came round a blind bend on thr wrong side of the road overtaking a 20 man peloton who seemed to think they were in the Tour de France.
The majority of car and van drivers are considerate, I just think sometimes cyclists need to match this.
Riding along two abreast may be legal but is it necessary?. The same for riding in a huge peloton which just causes frustration to other road users who find it then difficult to overtake.
I came up behind three lycra clad middle aged blokes the other day... they were all carrying a bit of timber and were obviously mates but they were riding wheel to wheel at a slow pace. I could almost understand the draughting if they were more serious club riders but the speed they were going at (sub 20 mph) it wouldn't have made much difference.
In this case why couldn't they have split up a bit and left maybe 3-4 car lengths in between so that cars on a busy road weren't having to try and pass all three at once?. I dropped back leaving a 3-4 car gap for a mile or so before I turned off just so I didn't make the situation worse
All it takes is a nit of consideration from both sides and 9 times out of 10 it works.
That's not to say I'm a saint..I will regularly ride through red lights in London when I'm commuting on my Boris bike. I take the view it is safer to do that than try to pull away as the light changes on an uphill stretch of the Embankment at 630am when you are surrounded by construction traffic who can't see directly in front of them because of the height of their cabs.
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