BOTB - rigged?
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I've been playing a few months now, spending minimal amounts really that I probably would have otherwise spent in the pub so no big loss to me but the more I play the more rigged I think it is...
I found a thread on here from a while back where a couple of people say they won etc but I'm far from convinced. For starters the spot the ball competition image is scaled down, so when you're picking your co-ordinates you are picking them on a scaled down image. Only after you have picked them can you view/download the full sized image and you realise your co-ordinates are likely miles off. I think this is where they catch most people out. So last week I put this to the test.
I had some credit so I put one ticket on a selection then went to download the full size image afterwards. I put a pixel grid on top of the image in photoshop so I could get the co-ordinates from the image. Done the usual, drew some lines etc and got completely different co-ordinates who would have thunk it. So I then put some of the credit on those co-ordinates. Results came in on Tuesday evening and funnily enough I was closer on my second attempt with the full size image.
Secondly, they claim they do not pre-select the co-ordinates or do live draws because someone could pass that information on for someone to win and they want to surprise the winner. How is this any different to what they are doing now with pre-recorded judges making selections... They probably look through how much tickets they've sold for that week and pick a winner based on the car they've chosen so they make X amount of profit. All this video footage of judges etc is for show to try legitimise it. Claim it's a game of skill and it doesn't classify as gambling. You literally have more chance of winning the lottery!
I see comments from people all the time saying that the judges decisions are baffling and whatnot but in reality when you are only playing with the scaled down image on their site, the judges "decisions" don't at all seem baffling.
Anyone else feel the same?
I found a thread on here from a while back where a couple of people say they won etc but I'm far from convinced. For starters the spot the ball competition image is scaled down, so when you're picking your co-ordinates you are picking them on a scaled down image. Only after you have picked them can you view/download the full sized image and you realise your co-ordinates are likely miles off. I think this is where they catch most people out. So last week I put this to the test.
I had some credit so I put one ticket on a selection then went to download the full size image afterwards. I put a pixel grid on top of the image in photoshop so I could get the co-ordinates from the image. Done the usual, drew some lines etc and got completely different co-ordinates who would have thunk it. So I then put some of the credit on those co-ordinates. Results came in on Tuesday evening and funnily enough I was closer on my second attempt with the full size image.
Secondly, they claim they do not pre-select the co-ordinates or do live draws because someone could pass that information on for someone to win and they want to surprise the winner. How is this any different to what they are doing now with pre-recorded judges making selections... They probably look through how much tickets they've sold for that week and pick a winner based on the car they've chosen so they make X amount of profit. All this video footage of judges etc is for show to try legitimise it. Claim it's a game of skill and it doesn't classify as gambling. You literally have more chance of winning the lottery!
I see comments from people all the time saying that the judges decisions are baffling and whatnot but in reality when you are only playing with the scaled down image on their site, the judges "decisions" don't at all seem baffling.
Anyone else feel the same?
They're not rigged as in fraudulent, I don't think.
They are a total suckers proposition when you look into the rules and % chances of taking anything from it.
I'd say its an idiot tax rather than a scam. If you think its worth the money for the 'what if' thoughts... fair enough. But there are higher chance places to bet if you fancy rolling the dice to buy a new car.
They are a total suckers proposition when you look into the rules and % chances of taking anything from it.
I'd say its an idiot tax rather than a scam. If you think its worth the money for the 'what if' thoughts... fair enough. But there are higher chance places to bet if you fancy rolling the dice to buy a new car.
Terminator X said:
Just like the lottery, a tax on fools!
TX.
They're not really in the same ballpark. TX.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/0375518...
https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/life-changing/w...
If you're happy to pay a few quid to dream about what you'd do if you won... stick to lottery tickets.
StrawberryBurst said:
I had some credit so I put one ticket on a selection then went to download the full size image afterwards. I put a pixel grid on top of the image in photoshop so I could get the co-ordinates from the image. Done the usual, drew some lines etc and got completely different co-ordinates who would have thunk it. So I then put some of the credit on those co-ordinates. Results came in on Tuesday evening and funnily enough I was closer on my second attempt with the full size image.
Could you show us some examples please of how the pixels are "completely different"?It’s a lottery like any you take your chances. They probably use judges to pick the ball spot as if they use the actual picture it’s probably on the internet some were so people could cheat. obviously more people loose than win as its a business that needs to make profit. As for looking for who bought the cheapest car to make more profit last weeks winner won a Urus one of the most expensive they have!
LegendaryGiT said:
Sorry, but you sound butt-hurt because you haven't won.
Better odds winning the lottery? Ah hahahaha. Christ.
All the numbers are public. No there's not a better chance of winning 50m on the euro millions than winning a Cayman you can't afford to run... but % wise the lottery is the least worst of the 2 options if you fancy a 'what if...' for a couple of quid Better odds winning the lottery? Ah hahahaha. Christ.
Pommy said:
Terminator X said:
Just like the lottery, a tax on fools!
TX.
I've personally met 20+ top prize lottery winners through my work. They ertainly didn't feel foolish buying their ticketsTX.
"The Lottery Jackpot
To win the lottery jackpot you must correctly match 6 numbers between 1 and 59. Therefore there are 59!/(6!*(59-6)!) different combinations of lottery numbers. This gives you a chance of 1 in 45,057,474."
TX.
He might be a financial advisor or connected to lottery in some way. I wouldn't be so quick to just assume someones lying 
But regardless of whether someones met 20 or 200 big winners, it doesn't change the fact its not a sensible proposition to play.
I'll have a go when the prize is big... it costs me a tenner on the occasions I buy 4 euro millions tickets and I never play unless its 50m+ prize. if I lose then oh well, I had some entertainment driving around at work thinking what I'll spend my winnings on. and a chunk of my money went to good causes/tax payments anyway.
But regardless of whether someones met 20 or 200 big winners, it doesn't change the fact its not a sensible proposition to play.
I'll have a go when the prize is big... it costs me a tenner on the occasions I buy 4 euro millions tickets and I never play unless its 50m+ prize. if I lose then oh well, I had some entertainment driving around at work thinking what I'll spend my winnings on. and a chunk of my money went to good causes/tax payments anyway.
I would not say I am a gambler, I have played a few of these style competitions over the years but would be surprised if I have spent over £100 over the last decade. It was this thread from a winner that showed me how some people play BOTB, I thought he was mad. The most expensive car I have ever played was a Mustang (probably £2-£3).
As long as people treat the cost as the price of living a short fantasy of what it would be like if they won its a bit of fun, when people start behaving like the guy in the post above it gets a little more serious. I also think its shows you how unlikely it is they are a scam, as long as there are enough people who behave like this they can still be profitable,
As long as people treat the cost as the price of living a short fantasy of what it would be like if they won its a bit of fun, when people start behaving like the guy in the post above it gets a little more serious. I also think its shows you how unlikely it is they are a scam, as long as there are enough people who behave like this they can still be profitable,
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