Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 17]

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r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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I know we slagged off the w220 a couple of pages ago but an immaculate SWB, standard car in the right colour still looks great. The light interior is very nice (I know Maisonette de Shill uses this over exposed technique to make his cars look so good), nicer than the rather heavy w221 for me. I’d prefer the standard 16” wheels and a 5.0 litre motor but otherwise that’s a nice car. So long as you keep it mint.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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r129sl said:
I know we slagged off the w220 a couple of pages ago but an immaculate SWB, standard car in the right colour still looks great. The light interior is very nice (I know Maisonette de Shill uses this over exposed technique to make his cars look so good), nicer than the rather heavy w221 for me. I’d prefer the standard 16” wheels and a 5.0 litre motor but otherwise that’s a nice car. So long as you keep it mint.
The problem is that they're so very determined not to be immaculate; I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers them looking decidedly dog eared and tired while they were still under manufacturers warranty, and now they are most commonly spotted resting on their bump stops with the trim hanging off, 2" square flakes coming off the wheels, and rust streaks down every panel. I'm quite surprised to see one in that condition, and it's even covered a fair few miles.

ETA - I think it might be the be the single piece door skin pressings with those wide integral window frames that form the entire externally visible a pillar and cant rail that contribute the most to making the W220 look so weird. The BMW E36 did the same thing, but otherwise it's a technique only used on very cheap cars like the current Dacia range.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 17th October 14:53

Mikedknight

702 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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Macron said:
Jesus my eyes!, ^ How can anyone use exposure that high and not face some sort of charge!
He’s made the grey leather look almost white, that looks a lot nicer than it will in real life.

Mikedknight

702 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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stickleback123 said:
r129sl said:
I know we slagged off the w220 a couple of pages ago but an immaculate SWB, standard car in the right colour still looks great. The light interior is very nice (I know Maisonette de Shill uses this over exposed technique to make his cars look so good), nicer than the rather heavy w221 for me. I’d prefer the standard 16” wheels and a 5.0 litre motor but otherwise that’s a nice car. So long as you keep it mint.
The problem is that they're so very determined not to be immaculate; I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers them looking decidedly dog eared and tired while they were still under manufacturers warranty, and now they are most commonly spotted resting on their bump stops with the trim hanging off, 2" square flakes coming off the wheels, and rust streaks down every panel. I'm quite surprised to see one in that condition, and it's even covered a fair few miles.
True I had one at 18 months old that had rusty stonechips on it. I spent most of my time in a loan c or e class it was broken that often. Weirdly they seem to be more reliable now than when they were new maybe time has weeded all the Friday afternoon ones out.

I’m biased but find a decent one and there is nothing that comes close to the value for money.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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Mikedknight said:
He’s made the grey leather look almost white, that looks a lot nicer than it will in real life.
Oh, I thought it was some different much paler trim option, that's some serious overexposure going on to make the standard drab elephant grey look like that. Silver and grey must be the single worst option for these cars, and yet 80% of them seem to have been sold with that combo.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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stickleback123 said:
Mikedknight said:
He’s made the grey leather look almost white, that looks a lot nicer than it will in real life.
Oh, I thought it was some different much paler trim option, that's some serious overexposure going on to make the standard drab elephant grey look like that. Silver and grey must be the single worst option for these cars, and yet 80% of them seem to have been sold with that combo.
Surely any new owner will turn up to collect his new car and exclaim wtf is that at the interior colour. Telling him where to stick his sale.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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This is an interesting read, with lots of interesting links through the text too

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a33852859/co...

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,071 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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0a said:
Phwoar!

alec.e

2,149 posts

124 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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stickleback123 said:
ETA - I think it might be the be the single piece door skin pressings with those wide integral window frames that form the entire externally visible a pillar and cant rail that contribute the most to making the W220 look so weird. The BMW E36 did the same thing, but otherwise it's a technique only used on very cheap cars like the current Dacia range.

Edited by stickleback123 on Saturday 17th October 14:53
Never noticed this before, now cannot unsee it! Very weird.

Thankfully, the W215 CL is unaffected and remains my favourite CL design.

On a side note, I am tempted to make the trek to Duxford on Sunday

flatso

1,240 posts

129 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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0a said:
These w221's seem to be aging extremly well.

21st Century Man

40,891 posts

248 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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I would be up for Duxford, but I'm working tomorrow frown

tobinen

9,223 posts

145 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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It's next weekend not tomorrow

21st Century Man

40,891 posts

248 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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Oh, OK, still working but might be able to do a swop.

biggbn

23,315 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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flatso said:
0a said:
These w221's seem to be aging extremly well.
I just think they are ugly. But. I like BMW X6 and Renault Avantimes, so, in the grand scheme of things, my opinions are best left unkicked, like a bike full of malevolent wasps who have neither the moral nor ethical right to sting fk out of you, but sting they will....

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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21st Century Man said:
Oh, OK, still working but might be able to do a swop.
Please bring the Century! I’d love to see it!

Up for the Sunday, will be in my w124 or the Shed4!

Edited by 0a on Saturday 17th October 16:01

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
0a said:
Phwoar!
I have the 2006 and 2007 brochures for the W221, and I cannot quite grasp the dreadful taste, conservativism, or sheer boringness of the people who bought them new and overlooked that interior (and a few other very nice ones) to pick kill me now grey or coal sack black interiors with a wet road grey or anonymous silver exterior.. Barolo Red and one of the light interior options for me please, of maybe that black and tan S65 interior we had the other week.



ETA - Looking at that SWB Barolo Red car it strikes me that the W221 looks far better in profile when it's the LWB car. It has that slightly scrunched look otherwise, like the 1st gen Volvo S60.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 17th October 16:04

harrykul

2,770 posts

226 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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stickleback123 said:
Oh, I thought it was some different much paler trim option, that's some serious overexposure going on to make the standard drab elephant grey look like that. Silver and grey must be the single worst option for these cars, and yet 80% of them seem to have been sold with that combo.
I picked that interior when speccing our car in 2002, went for Chalcedony blue exterior though. Clearly I'm biased but I think it's quite nice interior, I think lighter interiors are a bit more lux than black....

flatso

1,240 posts

129 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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biggbn said:
flatso said:
0a said:
These w221's seem to be aging extremly well.
I just think they are ugly. But. I like BMW X6 and Renault Avantimes, so, in the grand scheme of things, my opinions are best left unkicked, like a bike full of malevolent wasps who have neither the moral nor ethical right to sting fk out of you, but sting they will....
No worries, I am also a fan of the Avantime (even the Vel Satis looks good to my eyes), along with other examples that are widely considered to be hideous. I however draw a line by the X6...

biggbn

23,315 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th October 2020
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flatso said:
biggbn said:
flatso said:
0a said:
These w221's seem to be aging extremly well.
I just think they are ugly. But. I like BMW X6 and Renault Avantimes, so, in the grand scheme of things, my opinions are best left unkicked, like a bike full of malevolent wasps who have neither the moral nor ethical right to sting fk out of you, but sting they will....
No worries, I am also a fan of the Avantime (even the Vel Satis looks good to my eyes), along with other examples that are widely considered to be hideous. I however draw a line by the X6...
As do many others man beer
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