RE: Peugeot to sell factory restored 205 GTIs
Discussion
Steamer said:
blue al said:
What is the price of nostalgia ?
Why do I suspect not much change from 50k for a “new car”
I'd say higher... Why do I suspect not much change from 50k for a “new car”
..add the words 'factory restored' and you can probably double that.
When I was younger (!) I had a beautiful 5000 mile ,like new GTI 1.6 - Prior to that I nearly bought a 1.9 for my wife but we agreed for practical purposes (2 children ! ) a new Golf GTI MK 2 with power steering was a better proposition. She drove that for 15 years before we sold it. She loved that car.
Anyway the Pug GTI 1.6 ? Loved that too but....and , it got so tiresome that I sold it fairly quickly ,it had that dreaded driveline shunt. Such a pity .It made driving it in traffic a bit unpleasant.
I guess a lot of people were prepared to put up with it and live with it.
Anyway the Pug GTI 1.6 ? Loved that too but....and , it got so tiresome that I sold it fairly quickly ,it had that dreaded driveline shunt. Such a pity .It made driving it in traffic a bit unpleasant.
I guess a lot of people were prepared to put up with it and live with it.
I really like the idea of this, but as with others I’m worried it’ll be prohibitively expensive.
It’s tough to see how the factory themselves justify charging much more than a new equivalent though, other that ‘just cause we can’, which isn’t a great look.
Hoping these can keep prices sane and keep these being used as intended!
It’s tough to see how the factory themselves justify charging much more than a new equivalent though, other that ‘just cause we can’, which isn’t a great look.
Hoping these can keep prices sane and keep these being used as intended!
Do any other manufacturers do this sort of thing? It's a really bloody clever way of boosting their brand with enthusiasts and actively managing exactly which bits of their history get seen as the brand's heritage. You skip back over 20 years of "meh"and focus attention on a real high point.
Another here that preferred the 1.6, I think it was mostly to do with the gearing and lighter wheels.
If I had the spare money , garage space I would have one over a modern hatch, not as an only car now though. I love the fact that doing legal speeds in these kind of car can feel so exciting.
If I had the spare money , garage space I would have one over a modern hatch, not as an only car now though. I love the fact that doing legal speeds in these kind of car can feel so exciting.
The thing is, while it is a lovely idea, and speaks volume for the high regard these cars are still held, would you actually trust Peugeot to do this ?
Like, it is not really their area of expertise. They are set up to mass produce cars from scratch on a production line, where everyone does their little bit and the car moves to the next station on a conveyor belt. They know as much about car restoration as I do about brain surgery. And I cannot imagine there will be anyone left who worked on the original cars ?
Beside the supposed cache, I suspect you would be far better going to a specialist who knows what they are doing.
Like, it is not really their area of expertise. They are set up to mass produce cars from scratch on a production line, where everyone does their little bit and the car moves to the next station on a conveyor belt. They know as much about car restoration as I do about brain surgery. And I cannot imagine there will be anyone left who worked on the original cars ?
Beside the supposed cache, I suspect you would be far better going to a specialist who knows what they are doing.
howardhughes said:
MC Bodge said:
I feel that I missed out in never driving one of these cars.
I did and was glad I passed on it. It was like a tin can with a turbo attached to it. In other words a death trap.In the end I went with a MK2 Golf GTi 16V
ATG said:
Do any other manufacturers do this sort of thing? It's a really bloody clever way of boosting their brand with enthusiasts and actively managing exactly which bits of their history get seen as the brand's heritage. You skip back over 20 years of "meh"and focus attention on a real high point.
Mazda do with the MX5 na, in Japan at least
It's nice to see that there's an option for those of us that like older cars. I had a 1.9 that had been given some head work and a new cam to make 150 brake and it was a really fun, quick and rewarding car to drive. Personally I like lightweight cars with rev happy 4 pots and good handling but they're pretty thin on the ground nowadays. Getting something from the past could well be the future?
Bobby Lee said:
I really like the idea of this, but as with others I’m worried it’ll be prohibitively expensive.
It’s tough to see how the factory themselves justify charging much more than a new equivalent though, other that ‘just cause we can’, which isn’t a great look.
Hoping these can keep prices sane and keep these being used as intended!
Hand rebuilt car in low volumes using NLA parts, cheaper than robot built mass produced appliance? It’s tough to see how the factory themselves justify charging much more than a new equivalent though, other that ‘just cause we can’, which isn’t a great look.
Hoping these can keep prices sane and keep these being used as intended!
It’ll be £40k or something
SidewaysSi said:
howardhughes said:
MC Bodge said:
I feel that I missed out in never driving one of these cars.
I did and was glad I passed on it. It was like a tin can with a turbo attached to it. In other words a death trap.In the end I went with a MK2 Golf GTi 16V
I had a mk1 GTi 1.6 and it was...ok.
I remember desperately scrabbling around trying to source a new 1.8 Campaign at the end of the mk1 run and missing out
Subsequently bought a mk2 8v and then a dark metallic green (Oak?) 16v and found them to be terrific cars, the 16v was a car that needed revving to make it work to be fair.
The 16v was a very different experience to an Escort RS Turbo that replaced it and I would still take one today over any 205, RS Turbo etc
They were built as if to withstand a nuclear bomb goi g off and for my money felt better planted and secure
Makes one wonder how much VW would, or indeed could charge for a factory built GTi ...
I ran a 1990,1.9 GTi, phase 2, non-cat from 1995 to 2007. Did 180,000 miles in it. Epic!
I can still vividly remember the pure lightness, deftness and balance whilst going round my favourite corners. Such a well damped and grippy car. The key to enjoying the '205' experience was to make sure all the suspension parts were spot on (as per most cars) otherwise they would bite. Anyone recall driving with nearly worn trailing arms and encouraging some lift-off oversteer just for giggles??!!
My brother had one too - we did a track day at Castle Coombe in 2000. Reckon we did about 65 laps on the day and then just drove home.
I can still vividly remember the pure lightness, deftness and balance whilst going round my favourite corners. Such a well damped and grippy car. The key to enjoying the '205' experience was to make sure all the suspension parts were spot on (as per most cars) otherwise they would bite. Anyone recall driving with nearly worn trailing arms and encouraging some lift-off oversteer just for giggles??!!
My brother had one too - we did a track day at Castle Coombe in 2000. Reckon we did about 65 laps on the day and then just drove home.
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