The V8 ICE What's it all about?

The V8 ICE What's it all about?

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pidsy

7,988 posts

157 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Noise.

Fleckers

2,860 posts

201 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Because it's a V8

Jasandjules

69,883 posts

229 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Um, it is the noise... The torque etc is nice but the burble, well that can't be beaten IMHO.. Note I am biased having had a TVR 350i, Chimaera 4.0 and 5.0

XFRFred

7,406 posts

253 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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hyphen said:
A4069 not A4096 smile
Oh FFS! thumbup
Thank you, will update a bit later

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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aeropilot said:
With one single exception, the Yank V8 died in 1971 until the US horsepower revival kicked off again 20 odd years later.
Whilst it's true the SD455 was the one true glorious outlier, the change from Gross to SAE HP measurements accounted for the marked difference in advertised horsepower figures between the '71 and '72 model years. While 1970 may have been the high point, the differences between 1971 and 1972 were not in reality that significant.

aeropilot

34,565 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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emperorburger said:
aeropilot said:
With one single exception, the Yank V8 died in 1971 until the US horsepower revival kicked off again 20 odd years later.
Whilst it's true the SD455 was the one true glorious outlier, the change from Gross to SAE HP measurements accounted for the marked difference in advertised horsepower figures between the '71 and '72 model years. While 1970 may have been the high point, the differences between 1971 and 1972 were not in reality that significant.
While 1970 is considered the high point by many, smog equipment in some states and other factors had already started to impact, and I think the high point was the 5 year period between '63-'68.


carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Torque.

I think inline sixes sound better.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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aeropilot said:
While 1970 is considered the high point by many, smog equipment in some states and other factors had already started to impact, and I think the high point was the 5 year period between '63-'68.
The effect of smog equipment really hit hard in the 1971 model year for Corvette, however the reality was only a -15hp change between '71 and '72 due to a small drop in compression rather than the advertised circa 100hp change due to the move from gross to SAE HP reporting. Rather than an absolute cut off after 1971 it was more a protracted death over 2-3 years. The introduction of catalysts in the early 1970's obviously didn't help.


Edited by emperorburger on Sunday 18th October 21:12

lord trumpton

7,389 posts

126 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Owned a few over the years - honestly Id rather have a peaky 2.0 4 pot turbo any day.

V8 - OK nice burble but by god thats its only feature.

Nose heavy, thirsty, slow revving (not all but most) and usually tightly packed into a bay that many simple jobs are a pita

V8 - let em die off and forget em says I

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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lord trumpton said:
V8 - OK nice burble but by god thats its only feature. Nose heavy, thirsty, slow revving (not all but most) and usually tightly packed into a bay that many simple jobs are a pita. V8 - let em die off and forget em says I
Oh dear.

amongst so many errors, the light weight and compact dimensions of General Motors LS and LT series engines appear to have escaped your attention.

mwstewart

7,596 posts

188 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I think that it's tongue-in-cheek, quite dry though smile

Mr Tidy

22,305 posts

127 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I've only ever had one V8 and that was in a Rover P6B 3500S when I was 20!

I loved how you could feel the car rock just blipping the throttle in neutral, but soon discovered it was because the springs were so soft it handled like a blancmange. laugh

More recently I rediscovered petrol straight 6s and they are way smoother than that old Rover, as well as being more than twice as powerful!

I'm more than happy with my S54 engined M car with after-market back-boxes and an 8K red-line, so I have no desire for a V8 for now.

fiju

704 posts

63 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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lord trumpton said:
Owned a few over the years - honestly Id rather have a peaky 2.0 4 pot turbo any day.

V8 - OK nice burble but by god thats its only feature.

Nose heavy, thirsty, slow revving (not all but most) and usually tightly packed into a bay that many simple jobs are a pita

V8 - let em die off and forget em says I
Heavy? I have a V8 that weighs 183kg fully dressed. That's lighter than a lot of straight 6's, and around the same weight as a Honda k20.
Thirsty yeah. But powaaah.
Slow revving - maybe if your only experience of a V8 is in a ship.
I'll give you the tightly packed. But for routine servicing it makes no difference.

Oh and let's not forget the bottom end punch. I have enough torques spin the tyres from cruising speeds. Let me see your 4 pot do that.

Edited by fiju on Monday 19th October 00:43

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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fiju said:
Heavy? I have a V8 that weighs 183kg fully dressed. That's lighter than a lot of straight 6's, and around the same weight as a Honda k20.
Same weight as a K20? Show your working out please.

jamesb2001

54 posts

115 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I’ve only owned and driven V8 BMW’s so; haven’t had the pleasure of an American or Italian yet. It makes a car so different. The torque makes it very easy to drive. When given the beans it gives the car a different character. It’s also slightly naughty. As you don’t need that amount of horsepower and torque in a car that looks like anonymous. Finally a V8 in an M3 is so different to that in a 540 or 550.

AC43

11,481 posts

208 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Glenn63 said:
similar to a Harley in bike world.
No! I'm not having that. The Harley sounds like a shagged old cement mixer. I hate the noise they make as much as I love the sound of a V8.

Let's have no more industrial plant noise polluting this thread :-)

hammo19

4,981 posts

196 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Experienced W12, V12, V8, V6, Straight 6 and 4 cyl. For me the V8 is my favourite mainly because of the rumble. The LS series engines were dropped into HSVs and Holdens and i am rather partial to those.

AngryPartsBloke

1,436 posts

151 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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gazza285 said:
fiju said:
Heavy? I have a V8 that weighs 183kg fully dressed. That's lighter than a lot of straight 6's, and around the same weight as a Honda k20.
Same weight as a K20? Show your working out please.
That's the weight of a K20 with a gearbox.

baconsarney

Original Poster:

11,992 posts

161 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Had an MGB GT V8 for a couple of years (loved it), pretty sure the 3.5 Rover lump in that weighed a bit less than the boggo cast iron 1800 lumps in the non V8 cars scratchchin

Obviously not particularly relevant in the 'modern' world biggrin

aeropilot

34,565 posts

227 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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baconsarney said:
Had an MGB GT V8 for a couple of years (loved it), pretty sure the 3.5 Rover lump in that weighed a bit less than the boggo cast iron 1800 lumps in the non V8 cars scratchchin
About 25lbs lighter from a very dimming set of memory cells.......?