RE: 331mph Tuatara is world's fastest production car
Discussion
GravelBen said:
I'm just curious why they named it after a rather slow-moving lizard!
Because https://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-massey/news/...
Well that is certainly the most direct replies I have ever had to a single post I have made on here.
Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
fatbutt said:
2000HP is relatively easy with electric motors and you can just as easily drive it at 10mph as at 300mph.
I must say: One of the greatest things about my time on PH has been the opportunity to learn, first hand from engineers at OEMs and elsewhere, how battery-electric powertrains are not merely an alternative, but an imminent and utter disruption.
That said, I adore ICE powertrains, manual transmissions, and the sort of contest of ideas represented by this Tuatara machine. Horses for courses. Room for quite a lot -- in my book anyway.
Water Fairy said:
Well that is certainly the most direct replies I have ever had to a single post I have made on here.
Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Maybe if you had bothered to write more than the two short sentences, that in reality showed very little ability to present a measured or knowledge based opinion, in the first place you may have been taken more seriously than you did. Not that that excuses a few of the responses of course.Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Equus said:
The astonishing thing here isn't actually the car - it's the tyres.
Anyone with a knowledge of land speed record breaking and the specialist tyres that are normally used for it will have some appreciation of just how difficult it is to create a tyre that will safely run that fast, yet remain usable on the road.
As a showcase of Michelin's expertise, it's really rather impressive. In all other respects it's utterly pointless and not even that technically difficult.
Have they progressed that far since the Chiron's attempt? It doesn't even seem that long ago to be honest. Or is this more to do with any power to weight and/or aerodynamic advantage this car may hold over the Chiron?Anyone with a knowledge of land speed record breaking and the specialist tyres that are normally used for it will have some appreciation of just how difficult it is to create a tyre that will safely run that fast, yet remain usable on the road.
As a showcase of Michelin's expertise, it's really rather impressive. In all other respects it's utterly pointless and not even that technically difficult.
sidesauce said:
Water Fairy said:
I can't help but ask why? What's the end game here?
If everyone thought like you, we'd still be riding horses.
ker he is, I take him to the shops and back (rather he takes me) , It's far better than a driving a car.. gigglebug said:
Water Fairy said:
Well that is certainly the most direct replies I have ever had to a single post I have made on here.
Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Maybe if you had bothered to write more than the two short sentences, that in reality showed very little ability to present a measured or knowledge based opinion, in the first place you may have been taken more seriously than you did. Not that that excuses a few of the responses of course.Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Water Fairy said:
Well that is certainly the most direct replies I have ever had to a single post I have made on here.
Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
It's a forum. You have your opinion and shared it. People also shared theirs. Take some of your own advice and get over yourself.Some understandable, some a little sad given their sarcasm and lack of thought or perspective.
I am a petrolhead, a car fan, a motorcyclist, a driving enthusiast but there comes a point when you have to ask at what point would it be better to channel engineering and technical knowledge and advancement towards the future rather than what is clearly now quickly becoming the past?
Still be riding horses? Get over yourself. We are living in 2020 not 1820 and like it or not we need to advance with the climate in mind not simply to satisfy our need for testosterone fuelled oneupmanship.
I have no real interest in electric cars but accept that is the way forward at the moment. You can, and will disagree with me but that is where I was coming from with my original post.
It saddens me that people seem to automatically counter with sarcasm, insults and rudeness rather than present a measured and knowledge based reply.
Ultimately it seems having an opinion on here is akin to stepping into the breech.
Really impressive for a small outfit. The engineering required to make this work is not to be underestimated.
Now, dealing with a few current issues.
1. I am impressed by any engineering feat in the automotive world.
2. This includes electric cars designed from the ground up (see Lucid, for example).
3. I am impressed with any BEV that can get - or approach - over 4 miles per Kwh
4. I am delighted with any car that gets under 1200kg. Alpine A110 - take a bow.
5. I am hugely impressed with any car that can hit 100mph in under 6 seconds.
6. I am blown away with any car that can go faster than 250mph.
7. I love it when a boggo Astra with >110hp can get 60mpg on a run across south Spain (as I did recently). A PETROL Astra...
Is the Tuatara pointless? Probably. Maybe. I don't care. I am impressed, and love reading of stories like this. Pushing the limits. Well done SSC! Now for the Koenigsegg Jesko. Bring it on!
In short, I love cars where there's something genuinely interesting behind the story, the engineering, the innovation.
In this Forum of black and white, I proudly stand up as grey. Not as in 50 Shades of Grey (aka the Audi colour scheme), but being able to embrace the whole spectrum of PH. Apart from black wheels ;-)
Now, dealing with a few current issues.
1. I am impressed by any engineering feat in the automotive world.
2. This includes electric cars designed from the ground up (see Lucid, for example).
3. I am impressed with any BEV that can get - or approach - over 4 miles per Kwh
4. I am delighted with any car that gets under 1200kg. Alpine A110 - take a bow.
5. I am hugely impressed with any car that can hit 100mph in under 6 seconds.
6. I am blown away with any car that can go faster than 250mph.
7. I love it when a boggo Astra with >110hp can get 60mpg on a run across south Spain (as I did recently). A PETROL Astra...
Is the Tuatara pointless? Probably. Maybe. I don't care. I am impressed, and love reading of stories like this. Pushing the limits. Well done SSC! Now for the Koenigsegg Jesko. Bring it on!
In short, I love cars where there's something genuinely interesting behind the story, the engineering, the innovation.
In this Forum of black and white, I proudly stand up as grey. Not as in 50 Shades of Grey (aka the Audi colour scheme), but being able to embrace the whole spectrum of PH. Apart from black wheels ;-)
A1VDY said:
sidesauce said:
Water Fairy said:
I can't help but ask why? What's the end game here?
If everyone thought like you, we'd still be riding horses.ker he is, I take him to the shops and back (rather he takes me) , It's far better than a driving a car.. vz-r_dave said:
So so true, I cant believe the guy is trying to take a moral high ground here lol. The dude needs to take a look in the mirror haha
Another person unable to give a measured and informed response. It's easier to jump on the band wagon rather than attempt to construct a response that actually puts forward an alternative and relevant viewpoint.My original post was quite clear to those with a few IQ.
A 331mph ICE car in a world that is slowly but surely being destroyed? There is no doubt we will be the architects of our own downfall.
But that's ok as long people can come up with witty, sarcastic reposes.
Water Fairy said:
Another person unable to give a measured and informed response. It's easier to jump on the band wagon rather than attempt to construct a response that actually puts forward an alternative and relevant viewpoint.
My original post was quite clear to those with a few IQ.
A 331mph ICE car in a world that is slowly but surely being destroyed? There is no doubt we will be the architects of our own downfall.
But that's ok as long people can come up with witty, sarcastic reposes.
In your opinion, should we stop all forms of motorsport which use combustion engines and only have electric vehicle races, or go further and not have any racing at all since it furthers the destruction of the climate for human life on this planet?My original post was quite clear to those with a few IQ.
A 331mph ICE car in a world that is slowly but surely being destroyed? There is no doubt we will be the architects of our own downfall.
But that's ok as long people can come up with witty, sarcastic reposes.
I'm not being sarcastic here, I'm wondering where you would draw the line and why.
unsprung said:
. . . 91 octane as mentioned by PH is limited to Nevada, California, and a handful of other states that require a particular formula for reduced emissions.
. . . 93 octane is available elsewhere, and this is equivalent to super unleaded fuel in the UK. A small number of states split this difference, topping the octane range at 92.
91AKI is called "Premium" in the US and is indeed equivalent to 95 RON. The reason it's called that is because "Regular" is 87AKI, which is equivalent to 91 RON. In addition to RON/AKI confusion I think Regular is where the "US petrol is low octane" thing comes from... They genuinely do have lower octane fuel, but also have what we regard as normal octane fuel.. . . 93 octane is available elsewhere, and this is equivalent to super unleaded fuel in the UK. A small number of states split this difference, topping the octane range at 92.
Are you sure about the "limited number of states" thing though? It was my understanding that 91AKI is ubiquitous in the US alongside 87 (and even 85 in mountainous regions).
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