RE: Discovery Sport
Discussion
te and you pay a fortune for it!Dashnine said:
If he’s flooring it and expecting it to take off in EV mode like a Tesla, the ICE is going to cut in. If it’s cold and heated everything is on, the ICE is going to cut in. I just think it’s an overreaction.
Lets get it clear for the doubters - The ICE cuts in when in electric when you floor it - you are missing the point - the car won't run in electric so the ICE is already running and, FYI, if you are in ICE and floor it the electric is supposed to cut in to give full power and 4 wheel drive which it WAS doing until the issues started - I can assure you I don't expect a launch like a Tesla BUT given then until it stopped working it would leave pretty much anything at the lights - 0-62 is a whisker over 6 seconds - I think I am just about qualified to know it's not right!I AM NOT TROLLING EITHER
It does sound odd. The reviews for the P400e powertrain, first fitted to the RRS say it pretty much does what it says on the tin. Harry's Garage does a decent video on this and for a lot of people it seems a very good solution.
This P300e is a much newer powertrain (a 3 rather than 4 cylinder engine and 1.5 instead of 2 litres) and as such, there could conceivably be teething issues.
This P300e is a much newer powertrain (a 3 rather than 4 cylinder engine and 1.5 instead of 2 litres) and as such, there could conceivably be teething issues.
Yeah this sounds like you've got a fault to me (rather than this being expected behaviour). Someone else who has taken delivery on a different forum is reporting typical EV range of ~30 miles per charge and seems really happy with the system. Also, the PR and engineer interviews at launch around the system were very clear around the fact that the engine can provide charge as the system needs to always have 4x4 capacity even when showing zero charge (hence why engine always runs in off-road modes). However, you can't ask it to charge manually as it's a hopelessly inefficient way to charge a battery (true fo course) - so it only does it in the background as necessary to maintain the ability to use 4x4 or to supply a short burst of full power even when 'flat'. That's my understanding anyway.
Definitely a fault and the thing I most worried about when I purchased mine. How will the switchover be handled in varying conditions and is it possible to override this automation. So far i have noticed the car does a good job at moving between save/ev/hybrid. I have also noticed that cold starts mean more climate control, heating seats etc means it will jump into ICE until the car is using less energy. As Simon posted is that the car does well when a route is planned to really maximise the economy in hybrid mode. For me the car is right is doing what it should - l hope the poster manages to get their issue sorted.
UPDATE
So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Interesting, keep us posted.
Have just driven one, as in an hour ago. Very, very impressed. Switch from full EV to Hybrid is seamless. Engine is near silent and with the radio on, you'd only know it'd strung into action from the tachometer needle sweeping into the rev band.
Does not 'step off' anywhere near as stridently as the I-Pace, but then the motor is only 1/4 of the power, but it is more than adequate in that regard.
Have just driven one, as in an hour ago. Very, very impressed. Switch from full EV to Hybrid is seamless. Engine is near silent and with the radio on, you'd only know it'd strung into action from the tachometer needle sweeping into the rev band.
Does not 'step off' anywhere near as stridently as the I-Pace, but then the motor is only 1/4 of the power, but it is more than adequate in that regard.
Daveyis said:
UPDATE
So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Can you still reject it? If you can I'd bin it and try another one. So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
DonkeyApple said:
Can you still reject it? If you can I'd bin it and try another one.
Legally yes I can, the parts required will not be in the UK until next month!! Worn front driveshaft after 3000 miles doesn't bode well either. They have until 5.00pm today then it gets rejected....and no I will not accept another one.DonkeyApple said:
Daveyis said:
UPDATE
So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Can you still reject it? If you can I'd bin it and try So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Uncle Meat said:
DonkeyApple said:
Daveyis said:
UPDATE
So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Can you still reject it? If you can I'd bin it and try So after a plethora of emails and calls Land Rover Head Office finally sent an engineer out - a full reset of the software and car charged to 34 miles! It drove 20 miles then died, it went up from 17mpg to 30+ and overall began to perform how I expected it to - for a week!!
It reverted back to being useless, it developed a high pitched scream in EV mode and a grinding like a wheel bearing in ICE mode.
Tech came out to the car - common fault - not the first time the tech has dealt with it - has to go to dealer.
I won't bore you with the full details but finally the car has gone to a dealership - the one with no courtesy car - I have an RR as a courtesy car!
Dealer called me after 2 days - 'we can't replicate the fault' - explained to the dealer my 'opinion' - 24 hours later - 'we managed to replicate the fault' what an amazing find - the fault reported back on the 2nd December over a month ago has now been acknowledged.
Car has to be stripped to resolve will keep me updated.
Daveyis said:
Land Rover have agreed to accept the car back - end!!
Unfortunate, but at the same time I think it's fair to say there are times when this is definitely the best solution all round.IME, the general issue with vehicle faults is not that they occur, but the rather the way in which they are a.) met and b.) ultimately resolved by both the dealer and manufacturer.
Anything can go wrong. To coin and engineering phrase; the man who never made a mistake never made anything.
Digga said:
Unfortunate, but at the same time I think it's fair to say there are times when this is definitely the best solution all round.
IME, the general issue with vehicle faults is not that they occur, but the rather the way in which they are a.) met and b.) ultimately resolved by both the dealer and manufacturer.
Anything can go wrong. To coin and engineering phrase; the man who never made a mistake never made anything.
And that's the issue, if they had a) acknowledged there was an issue b) taken the car in immediately to resolve c) not messed about with reasons not to take the car in and d) apologised then maybe things would have been different - customers are the lifeblood of a business so treat them rightIME, the general issue with vehicle faults is not that they occur, but the rather the way in which they are a.) met and b.) ultimately resolved by both the dealer and manufacturer.
Anything can go wrong. To coin and engineering phrase; the man who never made a mistake never made anything.
Anyone having problems with Timed Charging? At best, I can make the Timed Charging work for one charging, but for all subsequent chargings, it switches from Timed Charging to Charging in about 3 seconds after connected. Seems like there is some very hard problem with computer, service didn't manage to solve this problem for 4 times.
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