RE: New 205mph Brabus Rocket 900 announced

RE: New 205mph Brabus Rocket 900 announced

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Fleckers

2,851 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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That B badge on the grill is horrendous

Panjy

162 posts

145 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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The body styling & M car wannabee grille colouring are a bit unexpected on a 400k + merc.

Not sure if i like it or think its a bit tacky.

Am sure i’d enjoy the acceleration though smile


dukebox9reg

1,570 posts

147 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Chestrockwell said:
I’ve come to realise that 0-62 times isn’t about power and AWD as 2.8 seconds isn’t that fast considering, BMW M8C is 3.2 0-62, this isn’t much faster.

I’m not saying it’s what it’s all about and I’m sure this car isn’t about 0-62 but I used to frequent the Brabus website all the time as a kid and I was obsessed with 0-62 times and horsepower. I had always wondered what the 0-62 times would be on the various rockets and bullets they sold if they were AWD and apparently it wouldn’t have been much.

This half a million pound Brabus would still get dropped by 911 Turbo S.

I’m not that guy to say what’s the point as it’s all a laugh at the end of the day, extracting big power and going fast but for the money, I don’t see what’s so special about this car.

I understood why older brabuses cost more as they’d put V12’s in E classes and C classes!
Little strange to compare with the 911. This is a 4 seat hyper-GT. With all the NVH and comfort that comes with it. The 911 isnt. Its a supercar.

0-60 is just a single measure of a car. Many arguments with an old friend who thought he had one the fastest cars on the road as it had a decent 0-60 time, (Mk2 Audi TT 211PS quattro DSG) In reality in gear a lot of stuff slower to 60 is quicker.

This thing with 900bhp once in its stride on the old cliche autobahn it would out pace the 911 most likely and do it whilst seating 4 in comfort and a boot full of beer. Though rich persons problem. I don't have to worry about it.

Bencolem

1,013 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Interesting that the torque is ‘only’ 774lb ft. Presume it’s limited to protect the gearbox as in previous Brabus models - which suggests the latest Mercedes gearboxes can’t handle as much torque as the previous...

wab172uk

2,005 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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I remember when Brabus was the ultimate? Apparently most of the board of Mercedes Benz had one.

Then AMG pretty much poured cold water on them, with their own mental products. Thought Brabus was more a accessories business now? I never hear of any of their cars ..... apart from this one now.

MyV10BarksAndBites

918 posts

48 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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dukebox9reg said:
Chestrockwell said:
I’ve come to realise that 0-62 times isn’t about power and AWD as 2.8 seconds isn’t that fast considering, BMW M8C is 3.2 0-62, this isn’t much faster.

I’m not saying it’s what it’s all about and I’m sure this car isn’t about 0-62 but I used to frequent the Brabus website all the time as a kid and I was obsessed with 0-62 times and horsepower. I had always wondered what the 0-62 times would be on the various rockets and bullets they sold if they were AWD and apparently it wouldn’t have been much.

This half a million pound Brabus would still get dropped by 911 Turbo S.

I’m not that guy to say what’s the point as it’s all a laugh at the end of the day, extracting big power and going fast but for the money, I don’t see what’s so special about this car.

I understood why older brabuses cost more as they’d put V12’s in E classes and C classes!
Little strange to compare with the 911. This is a 4 seat hyper-GT. With all the NVH and comfort that comes with it. The 911 isnt. Its a supercar.

0-60 is just a single measure of a car. Many arguments with an old friend who thought he had one the fastest cars on the road as it had a decent 0-60 time, (Mk2 Audi TT 211PS quattro DSG) In reality in gear a lot of stuff slower to 60 is quicker.

This thing with 900bhp once in its stride on the old cliche autobahn it would out pace the 911 most likely and do it whilst seating 4 in comfort and a boot full of beer. Though rich persons problem. I don't have to worry about it.
Exactly this!!!

There will always be someone and somewhere to use all the power.... Like dropping the mentioned 911 Turbo on any motorway or dual carrigway it may try you on and leaving the 911 turbo feeling quite undernourished to its driver (Thats where you start wanting more power!!!)... With the feel and sound only that amount of power can give you, then chill and relax in luxury....

The 911 only pulls off fast starts, this does it all...

I love it...

Voxy

1,356 posts

172 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Ugly as sin. Brabus may never have been the most subtle with their cars, but they’ve generally looked much better than this one...

the Carguy

38 posts

70 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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[quote=Chestrockwell]I’ve come to realise that 0-62 times isn’t about power and AWD as 2.8 seconds isn’t that fast considering, BMW M8C is 3.2 0-62, this isn’t much faster.

I’m not saying it’s what it’s all about and I’m sure this car isn’t about 0-62 but I used to frequent the Brabus website all the time as a kid and I was obsessed with 0-62 times and horsepower. I had always wondered what the 0-62 times would be on the various rockets and bullets they sold if they were AWD and apparently it wouldn’t have been much.

This half a million pound Brabus would still get dropped by 911 Turbo S.

I’m not that guy to say what’s the point as it’s all a laugh at the end of the day, extracting big power and going fast but for the money, I don’t see what’s so special about this car.

I understood why older brabuses cost more as they’d put V12’s in E classes and C classes!



3.2 to 2.8 seconds is a huge difference .....And no a Turbo -s would not drop this Rocket,agree the money is crazy but remember its one of ten!!!

Chestrockwell

2,624 posts

156 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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dukebox9reg said:
Chestrockwell said:
I’ve come to realise that 0-62 times isn’t about power and AWD as 2.8 seconds isn’t that fast considering, BMW M8C is 3.2 0-62, this isn’t much faster.

I’m not saying it’s what it’s all about and I’m sure this car isn’t about 0-62 but I used to frequent the Brabus website all the time as a kid and I was obsessed with 0-62 times and horsepower. I had always wondered what the 0-62 times would be on the various rockets and bullets they sold if they were AWD and apparently it wouldn’t have been much.

This half a million pound Brabus would still get dropped by 911 Turbo S.

I’m not that guy to say what’s the point as it’s all a laugh at the end of the day, extracting big power and going fast but for the money, I don’t see what’s so special about this car.

I understood why older brabuses cost more as they’d put V12’s in E classes and C classes!
Little strange to compare with the 911. This is a 4 seat hyper-GT. With all the NVH and comfort that comes with it. The 911 isnt. Its a supercar.

0-60 is just a single measure of a car. Many arguments with an old friend who thought he had one the fastest cars on the road as it had a decent 0-60 time, (Mk2 Audi TT 211PS quattro DSG) In reality in gear a lot of stuff slower to 60 is quicker.

This thing with 900bhp once in its stride on the old cliche autobahn it would out pace the 911 most likely and do it whilst seating 4 in comfort and a boot full of beer. Though rich persons problem. I don't have to worry about it.
I agree, it’s not all about 0-60 but my point is that it’s not that much faster than the standard AMG with the same V8 engine unlike the previous brabus’ that had a V12 fitted, for half a million quid, it’s not that much of a big deal and considering this car will be ‘spotted’ on PH 5 years from now for 150k like that E class in LHD, it’ll become just another old merc that’s modified

I mention 0-60 as i watch carwow videos on YouTube with many modified cars and they’re never actually that much quicker in the 1/4 time.

This is a car that’s going to be forgotten like the various other rockets brabus made, there’s actually a CLS rocket on AT that’s been up for sale for about 10 years now that probably cost the same as this one new.

I agree, it’s a rich persons problem and I don’t need to worry about it either but just giving my input

Augustus Windsock

3,340 posts

154 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Chestrockwell said:
I’ve come to realise that 0-62 times isn’t about power and AWD as 2.8 seconds isn’t that fast considering, BMW M8C is 3.2 0-62, this isn’t much faster.

I’m not saying it’s what it’s all about and I’m sure this car isn’t about 0-62 but I used to frequent the Brabus website all the time as a kid and I was obsessed with 0-62 times and horsepower. I had always wondered what the 0-62 times would be on the various rockets and bullets they sold if they were AWD and apparently it wouldn’t have been much.

This half a million pound Brabus would still get dropped by 911 Turbo S.

I’m not that guy to say what’s the point as it’s all a laugh at the end of the day, extracting big power and going fast but for the money, I don’t see what’s so special about this car.

I understood why older brabuses cost more as they’d put V12’s in E classes and C classes!
This vs a 911 Turbo S I’d love to see.
But to be a level playing field wouldn’t it be fairer for the 911 to have received some and tuning too?
Just a shame that Max Power isn’t still around as this thing surely does look like it would have fallen straight out of the centre pages feature, all steroid wheel arches, open grills at the front large enough to swallow small children etc etc.
Sorry but I prefer things to be a bit more discreet, and in my book proves the old adage that you can’t buy class....

Alex_225

6,233 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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I quite like the AMG GT four door and I quite like the look of this, it's as subtle as a house brick but it looks like it has purpose.

The only thing I really don't like is that massive B in the grille.

Leon R

3,180 posts

95 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Not really sure where this idea of Brabus making their cars understated comes from.

I have seen an EV12, Bullit and Invicto in person and none of them were subtle.

jet_noise

5,630 posts

181 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Alex_225 said:
I quite like the AMG GT four door and I quite like the look of this, it's as subtle as a house brick but it looks like it has purpose.

The only thing I really don't like is that massive B in the grille.
Amidst the over-the-toppery that was my first thought too. Odd that such a (not very) tiny part tips it over the edge.
Next time the Euromillions tops 100M smile

ManyMotors

626 posts

97 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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The technical aspects of the Rocket 900 (no relation to Oldsmobile) are very interesting if not somewhat excessive. Too bad they're in a frumpy sedan.

Rapidcrumpets

124 posts

53 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Once again to all the moaners, detractors and nay-sayers, at least it's not;

i. An SUV
ii. Electric
iii. A dilution of the tuner brand (unlike most of the current 'AMG' products these days)

Plus there's only 10 so you'll probably never see one!

gigglebug

2,611 posts

121 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Chestrockwell said:
I agree, it’s not all about 0-60 but my point is that it’s not that much faster than the standard AMG with the same V8 engine unlike the previous brabus’ that had a V12 fitted, for half a million quid, it’s not that much of a big deal and considering this car will be ‘spotted’ on PH 5 years from now for 150k like that E class in LHD, it’ll become just another old merc that’s modified
It is hardly a news flash, or something out of the ordinary, that an expensive barge loses a shed load in depreciation, as most will do that, so that is hardly a stick which can be used to solely beat Brabus with. Although I do agree that the big engine swaps were always a large part of the appeal of a Brabus times are a changing so maybe they have had to as well, would they even have access to any V12’s now? AMG presumably still supply Pagani with a V12 but do Mercedes themselves have one in their current line up?

Chestrockwell said:
I mention 0-60 as i watch carwow videos on YouTube with many modified cars and they’re never actually that much quicker in the 1/4 time.
You are right in that many of the modified cars don't actually turn out to be much quicker in the 1/4 mile standing start races but they nearly always are in the rolling races which is far more relevant, unless you really do only spend you're time driving seeing how quickly you can get to 60? I am sure that this will feel comfortably quicker in gear than the 'standard' AMG.

Chestrockwell said:
This is a car that’s going to be forgotten like the various other rockets brabus made, there’s actually a CLS rocket on AT that’s been up for sale for about 10 years now that probably cost the same as this one new.

I agree, it’s a rich persons problem and I don’t need to worry about it either but just giving my input
You are using a single example, that clearly has something a bit up with it, to generalise a whole marque. Take a quick look at it's mot history, under it's previous registration LJ07 AYK, and I am sure that you will spot a potential problem very quickly! It probably didn't help that it was with one of the less favourable dealers for most of it's time on sale either and I am sure I have read on here somewhere, a few years ago now, that it has probably been in an accident at some point. There is also a low mileage Porsche CGT that has been on sale for a very long time now as well, does that also make it a forgotten car?

Edited by gigglebug on Friday 23 October 21:09

Burnham

3,668 posts

258 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Pretty, it is not. I'd love to have a go though.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

121 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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I’m not sure whether I like this or not to be honest. I’m not a massive fan of wings at the best of times but I definitely don’t like them on saloon cars. I much prefer the subtle aggression of various other Brabus’, the original Rocket being a prime example, so maybe this would look a whole deal better without the wing and in black? I don’t think the look of the wheels/covers necessarily suit it either although I do like the design in isolation (it certainly works on other cars and reminds me of the various rally wheels which are similar).

How often do you see completely exposed radiators on a car? (assuming that is what is actually going on)

Edited by gigglebug on Friday 23 October 16:57

Wills2

22,665 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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The liberty walk style body kit is gash..the rest is cool.

Burwood

18,709 posts

245 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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WCZ said:
standard amg's have over 620 hp these days, imo there's not much point in brabus anymore. although I have lots of respect for them.
Great brand but 400k. Evolves M5 has more power, is faster, is reliable and that is about 30k in upgrades. Just saying smile