SSC Tuatara Top Speed run apparently faked?

SSC Tuatara Top Speed run apparently faked?

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-Z-

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6,022 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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More evidence of shadyness, they've applied a blur to the speedo but you can see that the number starts with a 2XXmph rather than the supposed 316mph at that time. Amusingly if you watch the SSC TG vid towards the end your can see the blur goes away momentarily when the drivers hand passes in front, again the speeds don't match.
https://youtu.be/N22JfNHiC1k









Edited by -Z- on Sunday 25th October 08:35

Andeh1

7,110 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Sway said:
The two horizons look very different...
That's just haze, like fog reducing a viewing distance. Pretty sure you can make out silhouettes in the distance showing something is there...

I'm curious to hear more!

-Z-

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6,022 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Andeh1 said:
That's just haze, like fog reducing a viewing distance. Pretty sure you can make out silhouettes in the distance showing something is there...

I'm curious to hear more!
I wonder if any of the big YT channels pick it up, SSC need to explain the discrepancies, fast.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

203 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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You do seem to be quite invested in this, do you work for the competition or something? I would be VERY suprised if they faked it given the amount of people and equipment that witnessed it.

harrylee1

20 posts

42 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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I originally gave SSC the benefit of the doubt that the footage was somehow mixed up. But things are looking more suspect and they've blocked some accounts on IG that have called out the doctored footage.

Even @speedy_jeff, a Koenigsegg owner who was physically there on the day and saw Oliver James Webb doing the runs, has said the video 100% does not show the 331mph run.


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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for me it looks like the wrong video uploaded, there were 3 runs after all.

Clarkedontgo

312 posts

59 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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What was the old record? As 330 mph seems quite fast to me ,

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Clarkedontgo said:
What was the old record? As 330 mph seems quite fast to me ,
the record is 316, it is average of 2 runs, there were 3 in total.

car2021

89 posts

42 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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thecremeegg said:
You do seem to be quite invested in this, do you work for the competition or something? I would be VERY suprised if they faked it given the amount of people and equipment that witnessed it.
Not referring to this one but I've seen figures intially claimed as fact but when the dust settles it was not a fact.

I am certain that even this car was not the bog standard one they intend to sell and it was hyped up at the least.

looks at VW and MB, emissions


Please don't just accpet what is published these days, think about it.

harrylee1

20 posts

42 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
for me it looks like the wrong video uploaded, there were 3 runs after all.
This is the logical explanation.

If we give SSC the benefit of the doubt, they just uploaded the wrong run. Also it would explain why the car seemed to have a lot more in the tank. In the video, it looks like it could've gone to 350mph!

In the video, it's definitely not doing the numbers the telemetry shows.

The whole thing seems petty, but this is a world record we're talking about and in this day, people will believe anything social media tells them.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Clarkedontgo said:
What was the old record? As 330 mph seems quite fast to me ,
the record is 316, it is average of 2 runs, there were 3 in total.
the differential seemed huge to me - 300 and 330 ish - is that normal?

-Z-

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6,022 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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harrylee1 said:
The Spruce Goose said:
for me it looks like the wrong video uploaded, there were 3 runs after all.
This is the logical explanation.

If we give SSC the benefit of the doubt, they just uploaded the wrong run. Also it would explain why the car seemed to have a lot more in the tank. In the video, it looks like it could've gone to 350mph!

In the video, it's definitely not doing the numbers the telemetry shows.

The whole thing seems petty, but this is a world record we're talking about and in this day, people will believe anything social media tells them.
People saying they've uploaded the wrong video... watch the official vid from when the car moves off and you see the speed climb exactly coinciding with Oli Webbs gear changes at the start of the vid, this wouldn't match if it was a simple 'wrong video file' uploaded. The whole thing stinks.

https://youtu.be/N22JfNHiC1k

samoht

5,712 posts

146 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Ultimately there are two types of "record". Either it's a record that has been validated by an independent credible organisation such as the FIA, Guiness etc. Otherwise, it's just a claim, which can be accorded as much credibility or not as you think the evidence warrants.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

50 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Wonder if there will be a second attempt biggrin
https://pvtimes.com/news/nhp-to-beef-up-speed-patr...

harrylee1

20 posts

42 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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The 'fake' footage is starting to blow up on the internet now. SSC will have to address it sooner or later. You can't make a fake video and tell the world you've got the fastest car.

Buddy Wyrick is the guy who's been producing and editing all the footage of the SSC including the top speed run is releasing an upcoming film which will be 'exclusively' shown on his new app - https://www.thedrivenapp.com/

Something seems fishy about the whole thing.

-Z-

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6,022 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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harrylee1 said:
The 'fake' footage is starting to blow up on the internet now. SSC will have to address it sooner or later. You can't make a fake video and tell the world you've got the fastest car.

Buddy Wyrick is the guy who's been producing and editing all the footage of the SSC including the top speed run is releasing an upcoming film which will be 'exclusively' shown on his new app - https://www.thedrivenapp.com/

Something seems fishy about the whole thing.
Olly Webb has replied to a Insta post I saw but added nothing to explain the discrepancies. Buddy Wyrick has his own controversies in the past borrowing money from YTers and not paying it back...

Edited by -Z- on Sunday 25th October 15:10

-Z-

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6,022 posts

206 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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thecremeegg said:
You do seem to be quite invested in this, do you work for the competition or something? I would be VERY suprised if they faked it given the amount of people and equipment that witnessed it.
I wish! Just intrigued that a company could try to hoodwink so many people... And the fact that simple observation can prove the falseness of it. Its really high stakes as if it is fake, that's the end of the brand pretty much.

Clarkedontgo

312 posts

59 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
the record is 316, it is average of 2 runs, there were 3 in total.
I meant the current record as the 316 isn’t official

harrylee1

20 posts

42 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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-Z- said:
thecremeegg said:
You do seem to be quite invested in this, do you work for the competition or something? I would be VERY suprised if they faked it given the amount of people and equipment that witnessed it.
I wish! Just intrigued that a company could try to hoodwink so many people... And the fact that simple observation can prove the falseness of it. Its really high stakes as if it is fake, that's the end of the brand pretty much.
'Murica - many Americans will blindly believe anything that social media tells them especially if it's an American car breaking a world record.

Plus SSC need to shift some units - what better way than break a world record?

And yeah they're trying to promote some new app on the back of this.

donkmeister

8,155 posts

100 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Teddy Lop said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Clarkedontgo said:
What was the old record? As 330 mph seems quite fast to me ,
the record is 316, it is average of 2 runs, there were 3 in total.
the differential seemed huge to me - 300 and 330 ish - is that normal?
I know it took place between Pahrump and Las Vegas, but on which stretch of road? On one stretch, the road changes elevation at up to 100 feet per km (yup, those are the units on Google maps so I'm using them!) and goes both up and down... but on the other stretch it's clearly uphill or downhill depending on direction. If it took place on the latter then I'm not surprised by such a discrepency, even though wind resistance is such a massive force at 300+mph (if it was 300+mph).

Uppy-downy road


Clearly a hill


Too early for me to get on the conspiracy bandwagon but SSC have form for "sorta kinda maybe" record attempts instead of actual record attempts. Perhaps Shelby Jr is one of those people who is mortified about the prospect of not being seen to win at everything? I genuinely hope it turns out to be a genuine record as it would be good to have more competition in the fastest road legal / production car record.