Cycling two abreast....agree or not?
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A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
Damn those glasses What a muppet.
I think the quote of the thread so far is "Bane of Britain". If the worst thing that happened in Britain in the last year is some cyclists riding two abreast, then I guess we've had quite a good year. Not sure what's happened in Northern Ireland to exclude it from this rosy scenario, though.
A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
Are you unaware of the principle of amateur sport? I’m not a cyclist, I’m a runner, but I’ve never commuted whilst running, and neither have I ever been a pro. And no, I don’t run for fitness! It’s completely unnecessary to run 90km a week to keep fit In your eyes does that make my running ridiculous or pointless? How about my motor racing? I’ll have done that for 20 years next year. My windsurfing? I just love racing and compete for fun as an amateur.What a truly odd opinion; unless I’ve misunderstood? Are you really saying you don’t understand sport unless it’s for fitness or being a pro?
Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 28th October 23:44
yellowjack said:
Meh. I was too busy "holding up" traffic today for a LOT more than 30 seconds. And tough titty, really, to the driver "stuck" behind me. It was a narrow single-track road between two hamlets in rural Hampshire. Up hill. No passing places. I'm not going to hang myself on a barbed wire fence (offside), nor am I going to fling myself into a nettle patch (nearside). So whoever was behind me was going to have to wait until we reached the farm gate at the top of the hill before I could reasonably, and safely, pull over to let them pass. Which, of course, I did as soon as I could.
FFWD to the end of the ride, and I was trundling through Stockbridge at about 20 mph. All good, nearly back at the car. Then some moron in a Passat decides it's a good time to pull out in front of me. Not a problem, usually. Most drivers then get going and there's no issue. But not this cod-head. Before he could accelerate he had to fasten his seat belt. Obviously. Because why would you do that before setting off? So I'd caught him by now, but couldn't overtake due to a) oncoming traffic, and b) his swerving around all over the road while he fished about for something in the centre console. Never mind the fact that any of the many cars parked along the street could have pulled out (reversed in most cases) in front of him. Never mind the pedestrians variously trying to cross the road or loading their cars with shopping. Never mind that I'm now "stuck behind him for ages" having caught him on a bicycle. No, this self absorbed onanist was quite happy crawling along in his own little bubble, oblivious to me, and to the growing queue of cars behind me. Unless, of course, he wasn't "oblivious" at all, and he'd deliberately pulled out in front of me, and was deliberately driving like Hoke Colburn just to piss me off/try to provoke a reaction...?
And speaking of the restoration of equilibrium? All ride long I'd been impressed by the patience of, and space afforded to me by overtaking truckers. They were, quite frankly, far better at getting fully over into the opposite lane when overtaking than most car/van/pickup drivers. But then, passing Danebury Hill Fort on the way into Stockbridge, the driver of an articulated grain tipper brought things back to earth again. Passing too close, the wall of air pressure created by the truck slammed into me like I'd been tackled by Owen Farrell, causing a pretty worrying wobble. Probably my own fault for riding too close to the nearside verge. It just seems to encourage dheads to close-pass. Mental note to self... "be sure to cycle much further from the nearside verge, closer to the centre white line, and at a minimum in the centre of the lane"
Aaahhh, that's better! It just wasn't the same without you. FFWD to the end of the ride, and I was trundling through Stockbridge at about 20 mph. All good, nearly back at the car. Then some moron in a Passat decides it's a good time to pull out in front of me. Not a problem, usually. Most drivers then get going and there's no issue. But not this cod-head. Before he could accelerate he had to fasten his seat belt. Obviously. Because why would you do that before setting off? So I'd caught him by now, but couldn't overtake due to a) oncoming traffic, and b) his swerving around all over the road while he fished about for something in the centre console. Never mind the fact that any of the many cars parked along the street could have pulled out (reversed in most cases) in front of him. Never mind the pedestrians variously trying to cross the road or loading their cars with shopping. Never mind that I'm now "stuck behind him for ages" having caught him on a bicycle. No, this self absorbed onanist was quite happy crawling along in his own little bubble, oblivious to me, and to the growing queue of cars behind me. Unless, of course, he wasn't "oblivious" at all, and he'd deliberately pulled out in front of me, and was deliberately driving like Hoke Colburn just to piss me off/try to provoke a reaction...?
And speaking of the restoration of equilibrium? All ride long I'd been impressed by the patience of, and space afforded to me by overtaking truckers. They were, quite frankly, far better at getting fully over into the opposite lane when overtaking than most car/van/pickup drivers. But then, passing Danebury Hill Fort on the way into Stockbridge, the driver of an articulated grain tipper brought things back to earth again. Passing too close, the wall of air pressure created by the truck slammed into me like I'd been tackled by Owen Farrell, causing a pretty worrying wobble. Probably my own fault for riding too close to the nearside verge. It just seems to encourage dheads to close-pass. Mental note to self... "be sure to cycle much further from the nearside verge, closer to the centre white line, and at a minimum in the centre of the lane"
A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
Says the lorry driver. FFS.A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
What a ridiculous attitude! A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
Sad thing is, when I am out on my bike, I have to be mindful that out there, driving a car, is someone with your mindset or worse. People like you don't see beyond your hatred.
All you see is "Bellends".
When I am out with my mates, I see a GP, an HGV driver (x2), a couple of engineers, a gastric surgeon, a Military Medal won in Afghan, couple of office workers and a palliative care doctor.
Funnily enough, if there's any issue with a driver, it's the HGV boys that are likely to kick off.
Piginapoke said:
A1VDY said:
Plenty of lycra clad with white plastic Oakley glasses bellends through our village on a Sunday. They seem to think they're doing the Tour de France. Nothing at all wrong with the genuine ones who do it for commuting but the multi coloured swop shop ones dressed like tts two abreast who refuse to use the purpose built cycle path I've little time for. Want to keep fit, get an exercise bike..
Says the lorry driver. FFS.'Professional driver', there's an oxymoron if ever I saw one. Should have went for the job flipping burgers in Maccy Ds instead, you might be less angry
Gweeds said:
‘Genuine ones who do it for commuting’
Imagine if this was your Dad.
I ride a bike for commuting.Imagine if this was your Dad.
I ride a bike to socialise
I ride a bike for fitness to train for races
I ride a bike for fun
So I’m confused about whether I should be out on my bike riding or not according to a lot of people on here!?
Sounds like a few angry people on here could do with getting out on a bike to chill out and enjoy life for a change!
What amuses me though is there are a lot of vitriolic opinions from people into cars, even though some of the biggest petrol heads in the country are into cycles and cycling. Harry Meadon. Guy Martin. Jenson Button. Sir Chris Hoy. Valtteri Bottas. Etc etc
Ladders said:
I ride a bike for commuting.
I ride a bike to socialise
I ride a bike for fitness to train for races
I ride a bike for fun
So I’m confused about whether I should be out on my bike riding or not according to a lot of people on here!?
Sounds like a few angry people on here could do with getting out on a bike to chill out and enjoy life for a change!
What amuses me though is there are a lot of vitriolic opinions from people into cars, even though some of the biggest petrol heads in the country are into cycles and cycling. Harry Meadon. Guy Martin. Jenson Button. Sir Chris Hoy. Valtteri Bottas. Etc etc
I agree. Petrolheads are either into cycling or at least get the appeal. I remain, as ever, baffled by the sheer amount of tiny minded, little Englander mindsets prevalent on this site, which is supposed to be a petrolhead website. These threads simply show that it isn’t. I ride a bike to socialise
I ride a bike for fitness to train for races
I ride a bike for fun
So I’m confused about whether I should be out on my bike riding or not according to a lot of people on here!?
Sounds like a few angry people on here could do with getting out on a bike to chill out and enjoy life for a change!
What amuses me though is there are a lot of vitriolic opinions from people into cars, even though some of the biggest petrol heads in the country are into cycles and cycling. Harry Meadon. Guy Martin. Jenson Button. Sir Chris Hoy. Valtteri Bottas. Etc etc
I don’t fully understand the op. Firstly, I never understood what was wrong with the original ruling, but it seems that when people see the words “should not ride more than two abreast” they read “must not ride two abreast”.
So because of the sheer numbers of thick drivers we have on the roads who can’t comprehend plain English, a rewording of the rule is suggested.
And again, it’s fine, it’s absolutely clear to me, don’t have a problem with it. However in his first paragraph the op immediately talks about something else, it seems to me, and the thread immediately descends into all the angry nonsense that never belongs on a petrolhead forum imo and should be contained to nonsensical groups like ABD, the Alliance of Bad Drivers.
For those ABD members (imo) who say cyclists should be compelled to use cycling paths, surely that’s the end of driving for pleasure? If we are going to say that certain groups can not use the roads then surely there is no justification for driving from A to B via the scenic route taking in E? If we’re going to restrict people from using the roads it has to be done fairly and incorporate everybody, surely?
Ladders said:
I ride a bike for commuting.
I ride a bike to socialise
I ride a bike for fitness to train for races
I ride a bike for fun
So I’m confused about whether I should be out on my bike riding or not according to a lot of people on here!?
Sounds like a few angry people on here could do with getting out on a bike to chill out and enjoy life for a change!
What amuses me though is there are a lot of vitriolic opinions from people into cars, even though some of the biggest petrol heads in the country are into cycles and cycling. Harry Meadon. Guy Martin. Jenson Button. Sir Chris Hoy. Valtteri Bottas. Etc etc
I guess you have to check with the selection of self-regarding idiots on this thread as to whether they, as drivers, consider your use of the road acceptable. I ride a bike to socialise
I ride a bike for fitness to train for races
I ride a bike for fun
So I’m confused about whether I should be out on my bike riding or not according to a lot of people on here!?
Sounds like a few angry people on here could do with getting out on a bike to chill out and enjoy life for a change!
What amuses me though is there are a lot of vitriolic opinions from people into cars, even though some of the biggest petrol heads in the country are into cycles and cycling. Harry Meadon. Guy Martin. Jenson Button. Sir Chris Hoy. Valtteri Bottas. Etc etc
Despite the fact that just about every single cyclist I know is either also into cars or motorbikes and pays as least as much to drive as said self-regarding idiots.
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