RE: Toyota GR Yaris (Convenience Pack) | UK Review
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s m said:
If it actually weighs less than 1300kg that’s a good result
Audi S1 3-door on 18s was one of the few modern similar cars I can think of and that turned in at 1365kg on the scales at Millbrook, ready to drive, half a tank of fuel - test date May 14
Be interesting to see the Autocar full test
That’s 6 years old, cars have got heavier since then. Audi S1 3-door on 18s was one of the few modern similar cars I can think of and that turned in at 1365kg on the scales at Millbrook, ready to drive, half a tank of fuel - test date May 14
Be interesting to see the Autocar full test
ecsrobin said:
Venisonpie said:
This is a great little car but 1300kgs? Crikey.
get with the times grandad! That’s light for a modern hot hatch with AWD. Current fiesta ST is 1262kg
Type R 1380kg
Another way to look at it is 1300kgs for a Yaris, a very small car. 4wd hardware or not it's chuffin heavy.
Checked up some more real world weights(Inc 70kg driver fluids etc as weights always are stated here in sweden)
Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room
will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world.
Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room
will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world. Venisonpie said:
ecsrobin said:
Venisonpie said:
This is a great little car but 1300kgs? Crikey.
get with the times grandad! That’s light for a modern hot hatch with AWD. Current fiesta ST is 1262kg
Type R 1380kg
Another way to look at it is 1300kgs for a Yaris, a very small car. 4wd hardware or not it's chuffin heavy.
leviCV8 said:
Can't decide if I'm just feeding a troll here but I don't know how you can say that is heavy for a 2020 car with AWD (ie 3 diffs, 2 sets of driveshafts, transfer box etc), modern emissions equipment and safety standards.
Lol, not trolling at all. Entering into debate - the comparisons offered by others are very valid. What's interesting is how we've all become used to heavier cars and the reference points have changed so much.This looks like a cracking little car but I am genuinely surprised at the mass. As someone else said - I'm old.
Venisonpie said:
LOl, not been called that before but old enough to be!
Another way to look at it is 1300kgs for a Yaris, a very small car. 4wd hardware or not it's chuffin heavy.
It's not really a Yaris though, it's not even on the Yaris platform. It's also not far off as wide as a Focus RSAnother way to look at it is 1300kgs for a Yaris, a very small car. 4wd hardware or not it's chuffin heavy.
ecsrobin said:
Although it would be cheaper to get the circuit pack and fit sensors and better sound system.
Diffs are £3,000+ for the pair and £4,000+ for the lightweight wheels and tyres.
Yeah, but if you went aftermarket with Kaaz, ATS, Quaife or Cusco diffs they'd be more like £800-1,500 each, and you could buy aftermarket monoblock or spun forged Rays, OZ, Einkei, Advan wheels for £1,000-1,500 for a set lightly used in great shape (or simple enough to refurb later). Diffs are £3,000+ for the pair and £4,000+ for the lightweight wheels and tyres.
I wouldn't be trying to buy genuine Toyota items if I was modifying the car. I'd be going to the aftermarket.
Venisonpie said:
leviCV8 said:
Can't decide if I'm just feeding a troll here but I don't know how you can say that is heavy for a 2020 car with AWD (ie 3 diffs, 2 sets of driveshafts, transfer box etc), modern emissions equipment and safety standards.
Lol, not trolling at all. Entering into debate - the comparisons offered by others are very valid. What's interesting is how we've all become used to heavier cars and the reference points have changed so much.This looks like a cracking little car but I am genuinely surprised at the mass. As someone else said - I'm old.
In other news, sky blue and grass green.
ecsrobin said:
s m said:
If it actually weighs less than 1300kg that’s a good result
Audi S1 3-door on 18s was one of the few modern similar cars I can think of and that turned in at 1365kg on the scales at Millbrook, ready to drive, half a tank of fuel - test date May 14
Be interesting to see the Autocar full test
That’s 6 years old, cars have got heavier since then. Audi S1 3-door on 18s was one of the few modern similar cars I can think of and that turned in at 1365kg on the scales at Millbrook, ready to drive, half a tank of fuel - test date May 14
Be interesting to see the Autocar full test
The opposite impression is cause by:
- Broschure weights of old were often lowest spec german market kerb weights (e.g. no electric windows, no AC, black bumpers and narrowest tyres etc), or dry weights for sports cars
- Latest WLTP EU weights are with options, full tank and 75 driver, giving the impression of weight increase
- Comparing within the same model or class when in fact the models and class have grown in size over time
- Comparing top spec new vs old, engine power keeps increasing as do associated weight (brakes, drivetrain, larger intskes and exhausts) so not actually like for like.
On average that is.
Edited by Onehp on Saturday 21st November 09:31
Baldchap said:
Venisonpie said:
This is a great little car but 1300kgs? Crikey.
Real world wet weight on a Golf R is 1600kg.1280kg is 90's territory, they're just not allowed to lie by declaring boggo spec, dry weights any more.
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/test/vw-golf-r...
I am so torn. I know i would be entirely happy with a convenience pack car and the softer suspension, as it will almost definitely not get tracked. But, if i pull the trigger on one i will only have it for 2 years finance term so residuals are much higher up my list of concerns than usual. Maybe the regular version will keep its value fairly well because it won't be as common? What d'you think?
turnerc76 said:
I am so torn. I know i would be entirely happy with a convenience pack car and the softer suspension, as it will almost definitely not get tracked. But, if i pull the trigger on one i will only have it for 2 years finance term so residuals are much higher up my list of concerns than usual. Maybe the regular version will keep its value fairly well because it won't be as common? What d'you think?
Cheaper one has 10% less to depreciate, be v suprised if used gap is >£3500CedricN said:
Checked up some more real world weights(Inc 70kg driver fluids etc as weights always are stated here in sweden)
Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world.
Where are you getting that weight for the Golf R?Type R 2017, 1470kg
Audi s1 1415kg
2019 Fiesta st 1301kg
Golf R 2018 1601kh
The weights might differ a bit irl, but this is as close as it gets without having all the cars in the same room
will be interesting to see where the GR ends up weight wise in the real world. fesuvious said:
What's the wait time for delivery if bought outright through Toyota?
April build slots are being talked about at the moment by people who've ordered. You might be lucky to catch a cancelled order but it seems they're selling fast. I read somewhere else that 50% of the 2021 allocation is sold already.Kawasicki said:
Where are you getting that weight for the Golf R?
The Swedish car registry, you can check it up by plate nr. I checked several more golf Rs, they all seems to be between 1570 and 1600kg, probably depending on how much kit it has, what wheels etc. Remember the driver is included. The golf 6R was in the same ballpark.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff