The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP

The Right Honourable Matt Hancock MP

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BlackLabel

Original Poster:

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Surely the secretary of state for health deserves his own thread given what’s been happening since March.

Please share your thoughts and appreciation here.






MikeT66

2,680 posts

123 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I can't. I'd be banned.

Mojooo

12,668 posts

179 months

Flip Martian

19,504 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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APPRECIATION?!!!

roflroflroflroflroflrofl

I either laugh or swear when his name or photo appears anywhere, ultimately. I chose to laugh, I don't want a ban.

rjfp1962

7,611 posts

72 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Vol 1??!

Ashfordian

2,009 posts

88 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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BlackLabel said:
Surely the secretary of state for health deserves his own thread given what’s been happening since March.

Please share your thoughts and appreciation here.
Should be sacked with immediate effect.

And then sacked again to make sure.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

156 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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MikeT66 said:
I can't. I'd be banned.
Quite.

furious

BlackLabel

Original Poster:

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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rjfp1962 said:
Vol 1??!
Next Tory leader? smile

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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My summary of Hancock:

He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.

He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.

I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

169 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I'd be fked if i wanted his job during all this.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think he is doing quite well under the circumstances!

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
My summary of Hancock:

I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat fundamentally decent.
Is that you Matt ?

bitchstewie

50,781 posts

209 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
My summary of Hancock:

He is trying his best, bless him, but he is clearly well out of his depth and floundering.

He will absolutely get thrown under the bus as a scapegoat the second it suits BoJo to do it. Hancock has no idea this is coming, but it is.

I think he is one of the more honest and decent politicians we have. Somewhat incompetent but fundamentally decent.
I think there's a lot of truth in this.

Some appalling mistakes but I have to give credit that he appears to be trying and has the decency to look pretty fking haunted by what's happened.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.

CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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He always seems amused with himself

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

156 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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He was on TV this morning.

Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS.

Well how about the NHS uses the billions it receives every year to protect us for a change?

ClaphamGT3

11,269 posts

242 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
He was on TV this morning.

Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS. Protect the NHS.

Well how about the NHS uses the billions it receives every year to protect us for a change?
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fking away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I can’t help but think of him in this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTJnUZoLRBU

ettore

4,119 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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AJ5641 said:
I don't particularly follow the news or current events, so I actually didn't have any idea who he was until recently. I can however say with confidence that this person has absolutely no idea what they're doing and is completely out of their depth. It makes a mockery of all the hard working healthcare personnel and I feel immensely sorry for them.
...with absolute confidence eh?

Jeez, can you vote?

Ian Geary

4,462 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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What I am curious about is the extent to which the health secretary really influences things.

You have PM, health secretary and political party machinery.

You have the civil service, health service and all the associated (conflicting) science from career bods.

You have HMT with the cheque book.

is the health secretary supposed to be a superman (or woman) who "fixes" it all? No, they probably spend their day rotating from meeting to meeting being "told" things they can do little about but nod.

So really with uk politics, their career, and view of them formed by the hard working tax payer (barring illegal cleaners and sex parties) is really how well they respond to forceful questions from radio hosts or piers.

Fluff them a la Abbott, and you're toast for ever.

Hold your own with a cocky assuredness (Cameron) and you win elections.

One current litmus test though is the nightingale hospitals, which my town Facebook group is busy bewailing the fact they're empty whilst ambulances are queued up outside hospitals.

It would appear there is no staff for them (and never has been). Yet in march someone pulled the trigger on a fifth of a billion pounds constructing them knowing this....

This would be a situation where the secretary concerned should be getting an almighty arse kicking from the press.

But where is Hancock? Keeping very quiet.

You also have the view Hancock inherited an NHS that had been denied the annual funding increases it had become accustomed to, had cut funded training for nurses, and had international recruitment made harder for it.

Was that his doing? No - Harsh to blame him...no one can just undo that, though he was signed up to the conservative manifesto that condoned that course of action, so definitely complicit.

Doubly ironic as rishi has already spent an order if magnitude more than the funds the NHS wanted under Hunt...but who was to know a pandemic was coming?

Claptonian

1,844 posts

139 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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ClaphamGT3 said:
This is the unsayable truth. The reason that the NHS is ‘stretched to breaking point’ by the current Covid situation is 100% down to them. Not the Govt for being incompetent- though that’s not helping - not the public for being ‘selfish’ but the Them for fking away a six month long window to properly prepare for the current situation
My sister qualified as a nurse a few years ago and has since developed the most immense chip on her shoulder. She really has bought into the hype surrounding the newly deified health workers. When she was clapped to her car early in the pandemic she immediately went onto WhatsApp to tell us all about how embarrassed she was. Don't know about you, but that is a different way of expressing embarrassment than anything I've ever felt. We even had a falling out when she suggested that all teachers should opt out of NHS care because nurseries closing a few day early before Christmas (Wales) made childcare for her difficult. I'm a teacher.

Anyway, the point I was making is that if she heard you talking like that she would immediately go to her new favourite line; "Opt out of NHS care". Turned into quite an unpleasant person with a huge superiority complex.

Completely irrelevant to the thread sorry.