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[E30M3SE]

Martin30 said:

E30M3SE said:

Martin30 said:

Also have a lovely E30 brochure from the days when brochures were substantial, not QR code links to a page giving you 87 wheel choices. Likely to appeal to the same sort of deviant/threadist like myself who would want the roof bars - also free.

Martin.

If no one one else is up for it I would like that. Let me know p&p.

All yours. Just PM me your address, and I will get it in the post. Don't worry about the p&p, I am happy to cover that.

Martin.

[Betts88]

MorganP104 said:

21st Century Man said:

stickleback123 said:

I think the only LR product that isn't widely considered "a bit risky" is the Freelander 2,

One of those cars that just vanished overnight.

I'm not sure they've vanished overnight, it's just that no-one is selling their FL2, as they are so reliable, and there's no heir apparent.

If you had a much-loved but long in the tooth FL2, would you replace it with an Evoque? Nope, you'd just give it to The Man for some love, and keep it.

Disco Sport was the replacement for the Freelander 2, both assembled at Halewood. The Freelander 2 was the first fleet vehicle I drove and an easy, lazy steer to Wolverhampton. It was on a 64 plate close to runout. Did 1,000 miles in a week and gave it a wash as a thank you to the manager who lent it to me. Good times!

Disco Sport got better than the Freelander 2 in my experience once the Ingenuim engines replaced the Ford/PSA 2.2 diesel.

I echo all the comments about modern 4 cylinders, however I would not have one in an L405 (Full Fat Range Rover/FFRR) & I would always test drive a larger/heavier vehicle to see how it pulls out of junctions. Tall gearing and starting in 2nd for economy can be a dangerous combination!

[dscam]

W00DY said:

Dapster said:

Here here. Although as you drive on the wrong side of the road, you also have access to the lesser spotted E420. Most of the bite of a 500 but looks like you've dropped off a fare at Flughafen Stuttgart. This one is a bit pricey but the lack of depreciation as Tobinen mentions above will Man Maths the spreadsheet back into your favour.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Edited by Dapster on Wednesday 24th February 09:58

Such a shame about the exhaust which ruins an otherwise super classy and very lovely W124.

This is a great shout for CdeG. The pre-facelift 400E likewise. I wouldn’t grumble with 4/5 of a 500E!

I also have to engage pedant-mode and point out that the phrase ‘lesser spotted’ refers to the relative number of spots on the smaller variety of a particular bird (woodpecker most commonly) rather than something being seen less often.

I’ll get my coat. Again.

Edited by dscam on Wednesday 24th February 20:07

[dscam]

SpeckledJim said:

MorganP104 said:

21st Century Man said:

stickleback123 said:

I think the only LR product that isn't widely considered "a bit risky" is the Freelander 2,

One of those cars that just vanished overnight.

I'm not sure they've vanished overnight, it's just that no-one is selling their FL2, as they are so reliable, and there's no heir apparent.

If you had a much-loved but long in the tooth FL2, would you replace it with an Evoque? Nope, you'd just give it to The Man for some love, and keep it.

The dotted line between old LR and new LR falls between Freelander2 and Evoque.

People with hair in places you wouldn't expect it, and people without hair in places you would expect it, respectively.
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I do love these stone-cold classics that you can so often poetically put together SJ. I genuinely laughed at the Maestro one too.

Thank you.

[bolidemichael]

SunsetZed said:

Sahjahd said:

tobinen said:

SpeckledJim said:

CdeG -

What about a first-gen XF Sportbrake? Smart, elegant and pretty cool, IMO.

Nice to drive, fulfils the practicality requirements without being staid, and (I reckon) on-message for enhancing your already elephantine personal magnetism.

Eh?

I like these but aren't they all diesel (1st gen)?

Not the ones that are worth having:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/jaguar/j...

There's one of these round the corner from me with a leaper on it, I'll have to try and get a picture for the thread.

These were only vaguely on my radar, very interesting. There aren't any for sale on AT! Were they sold in low volumes or just highly desirable/reliable and loved by their owners?

[bolidemichael]

Here's a very, very reasonable S211 E240, which has a 2.6L petrol lump and seven seats.

It also mentions that it recently had the sbc pump replaced. Bonus!

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

bolidemichael said:

SunsetZed said:

Sahjahd said:

tobinen said:

SpeckledJim said:

CdeG -

What about a first-gen XF Sportbrake? Smart, elegant and pretty cool, IMO.

Nice to drive, fulfils the practicality requirements without being staid, and (I reckon) on-message for enhancing your already elephantine personal magnetism.

Eh?

I like these but aren't they all diesel (1st gen)?

Not the ones that are worth having:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/jaguar/j...

There's one of these round the corner from me with a leaper on it, I'll have to try and get a picture for the thread.

These were only vaguely on my radar, very interesting. There aren't any for sale on AT! Were they sold in low volumes or just highly desirable/reliable and loved by their owners?

I think they're incredibly rare. Put it this way.... When did you last see one? Either that or their owners are so loving of it they don't want to drive them either

[RicksAlfas]

There’s 474 for sale!

[RicksAlfas]

Sadly they didn’t put the 5.0 V8 in any of them...

Edited by RicksAlfas on Wednesday 24th February 21:46

[Krikkit]

RicksAlfas said:

Sadly they didn’t put the 5.0 V8 in any of them...

Did they do one with the supercharged V6 though, which would do?

I know it went into the F pace 4x4

Edited by Krikkit on Wednesday 24th February 22:28

[LayZ]

bolidemichael said:

Here's a very, very reasonable S211 E240, which has a 2.6L petrol lump and seven seats.

It also mentions that it recently had the sbc pump replaced. Bonus!

Bit weird, says in the ad it has £580 tax, which as an '04 it definitely won't.

[j4ck100]

stickleback123 said:

When you look at cars like the P38 and Disco 2 and just how shoddily assembled and engineered they were it's hard not to think that the work BMW did to get every aspect of the LR business up past the complete joke level must have been gargantuan, doubtless against a lot of resistance from the famously arrogant culture present within the British companies, maybe an even bigger task that Ford had with Jaguar. Not that they were entirely successful, particularly compared to how well Ford sorted out the quality issues with Jaguar by 2003.

I think the only LR product that isn't widely considered "a bit risky" is the Freelander 2, which was built in a Ford factory with Ford engines on a Ford platform using a great deal of Ford componentry, and a bought in AWD system. I'm surprised the LR badges, their biggest contribution, don't fall off.

ETA - The "gigantic maestro" comment got a guffaw here.

Edited by stickleback123 on Wednesday 24th February 11:14

Couldn’t disagree more. I have a disco 2 and it feels incredibly well built. Everything works, it’s got some amazing technology for the year including Active Cornering Enhancement and it’s been very reliable so far, with 146000 miles on the clock. Feels incredibly well put together, the interior has worn very well.

[dscam]

Apologies if we’ve had this already amongst the recent S600 chat but it’s hard to keep up - page 100 already!

Large minerals / lobotomy required as EML on. Also not clear if this is the TT model?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154332778191

[Macron]

LayZ said:

Bit weird, says in the ad it has £580 tax, which as an '04 it definitely won't.

Weird indeed. It should be Band M, £580/ year, but MOT check confirms regd 2004, so is K, £330.

Maybe another DVLA screw up...

[B'stard Child]

Macron said:

LayZ said:

Bit weird, says in the ad it has £580 tax, which as an '04 it definitely won't.

Weird indeed. It should be Band M, £580/ year, but MOT check confirms regd 2004, so is K, £330.

Maybe another DVLA screw up...

More likely garage has looked up emissions and assumed VED rate and not recognised pre 2006

[Macron]

Well Over thread but nice work if you can get it.

https://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/216809/199...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021021289...

[cat220]

MorganP104 said:

21st Century Man said:

stickleback123 said:

I think the only LR product that isn't widely considered "a bit risky" is the Freelander 2,

One of those cars that just vanished overnight.

I'm not sure they've vanished overnight, it's just that no-one is selling their FL2, as they are so reliable, and there's no heir apparent.

If you had a much-loved but long in the tooth FL2, would you replace it with an Evoque? Nope, you'd just give it to The Man for some love, and keep it.

Mine has done just over 186,000 miles and still going strong. Very capable car. Think I’ll run it till it dies. No way would I swap it for an Evoque.

[anonymous-user]

dscam said:

Apologies if we’ve had this already amongst the recent S600 chat but it’s hard to keep up - page 100 already!

Large minerals / lobotomy required as EML on. Also not clear if this is the TT model?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154332778191

Its a TT, which is the good news. An easy way to spot is if they are TT cars is that they 03+ onwards, listed as 5.5 instead of 5.8 and have the large screen nav (I still can't tell facelift cars from bodywork alone!)

The bad news is
"WE’VE PLUGGED IN OUR DIAGNOSTIC AN CAME UP WITH FAULT ‘AIR PRESSURE - IT DOESN'T EFFECT IT’S 530 BHP POWER"

220s made a 493BHP if I'm being a pedant, but more importantly, i've seen mickey mouse OBD readings mis interpret cylinder misfire codes as air related faults on more than one occasion.

Its also worth noting that a true "air pressure" fault would most likely indicate boost pressure issue (engine out) or best case a SAI fault, and while that system can be shut down via a dodgy dev mode xentry (wonder who has one of those ), but its about the only fault I've ever had on them to actually enforce a real limp mode, so it having "full power" and despite an EML, and the fact its only covered ~6000 miles over the last 6 years strongly backs up my "That's gonna want two coil packs immediately" assumption (the packs corrode internally especially with a lack of use... ask me how I know ).

Considering those are a grand before installation and plugs, it needs to be good £1000-£1500 cheaper before we even get to any other issues it might, sorry, will have... Having a cracked screen for almost a decade doesn't exactly say "No expense spared..."

Makes that £5K purple one I posted that thread dismissed (and then sold within a week...) look like the bargain of the century...

[Phil Dicky]

Matt at High Peak covering some thread fodder Volvo V70.
https://youtu.be/oghZ1MAnWcY

[W00DY]

Macron said:

Well Over thread but nice work if you can get it.

https://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/216809/199...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2021021289...

Stunning. I love these.

As a business model I suspect it'll tie up those funds for a while before any return is gained.