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[d_a_n1979]

Dapster said:

Have we had this before? I don't think that it's one of Shilly's efforts despite the suburban street and general spanking presentation? Bit leggy and the copy
isn't like him. 140k miles but clean MOT.







https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Mercedes-E430-Avan...

Not really into Mercs and know little about them; but that is lovely & those alloys are mega-cool IMO

That IMO would be a great way to spend £5k to get into V8 ownership!

[anonymous-user]

bolidemichael said:

You probably haven't been keeping up my litany-of-outlay ownership thread then

I think the spending thousands on a worthless old car thing is rare and weird enough to be categorised as a mental illness. Outside this thread I'd struggle to find anyone who didn't think I was unhinged for my car ownership habits.

[LetsTryAgain]

Macron said:

g3org3y said:

LetsTryAgain said:

g3org3y said:

My seller also had rubber mats in his advert photos!

Not to mention his finger over the shutter...
That X5 (yours) looks smart as a carrot.

Thank you, I didn't want black (drug dealer) or white (Essex). The grey looks decent though. I wasn't planning on getting the 4.8i, but this green one came up and it looked so good, I couldn't resist. I think one of the only options it doesn't have is Active Steering. Has pretty much everything else. Seller also included the 20 inch summer wheels/tyres (currently on 18s/winter tyres). My wife enjoys driving it. She's less keen on filling it up though.

Dibs when you move it on please!

Will it get to 20 MPG on a motorway run?

[bolidemichael]

Chrishum said:

Given the number of views was 10 when I copied the link and was 20 when I last looked I don't think that advert is very old.

Perhaps, but we can't all have a personal Chisum on carandclassic watch, can we?*

• hands off guys, I saw him first.

[biggbn]

g3org3y said:

LetsTryAgain said:

g3org3y said:

My seller also had rubber mats in his advert photos!

Not to mention his finger over the shutter...
That X5 (yours) looks smart as a carrot.

Thank you, I didn't want black (drug dealer) or white (Essex). The grey looks decent though. I wasn't planning on getting the 4.8i, but this green one came up and it looked so good, I couldn't resist. I think one of the only options it doesn't have is Active Steering. Has pretty much everything else. Seller also included the 20 inch summer wheels/tyres (currently on 18s/winter tyres). My wife enjoys driving it. She's less keen on filling it up though.

What's the real world mpf on these.. Will it do 15 round the doors, and maybe 25 on a steady run?

[bolidemichael]

Emeye said:

mondayo said:

bolidemichael said:

Oh Christ, there's another thread? Does that one move as fast as this?

That one moves much more slowly.... we're talking serious money on there

Ah, so is there any point to this thread any more? Maybe shut it down and then create a £10-15k thread?

Psychology suggests if someone posts a £6k E49 in the £5-10k thread it’s a bargain rather than an overpriced desperate money grab in this thread. We can all reset our expectations to Covid car dealer land and peace and harmony is restored to all.

Where would all of the us losers converge?

[bolidemichael]

XMified said:

bolidemichael said:

Well the 500 does gather momentum, but it somehow feels more appropriate and more invisible on a motorbike

Certainly, there isn't too much aural drama from the M113 though it does 'trample' when pressed. The sweetest accelerative zone is from seventy to one thirty. I like to think that the ubiquitousness of the profile helps it stay under the radar, too. Who knows?

Having said that, I would very much like a CL65 one day, just because.

Michael, is yours the earlier 306bhp or the later 385bhp?

I find the 306bhp to be more than adequate- especially in the speed-crippled UK.

The 306bhp M113 (the 5.5L being the M273 and in facelift flavour only). I agree with your observation, it's pokey enough to swiftly pass the majority of traffic, which is what you want when looking to make progress. I think that the torques are useful in this regard. iirc at launch it offered more of them that the contemporary 911 Turbo.

[Chrishum]

deeen said:

I like this thread because, while I might find £3k down the back of the sofa one day, there's definitely not £9k down there!

Is there any chance you've got a cheap sofa for sale? All I find down the back of mine are old sweets and the odd £1 coin.

[Taita]

mondayo said:

Macron said:

lemansky said:

Apart from a complaint about how expensive everything is these days

Well that's not wrong!!!

I sold a 3 door E30 325i Sport for £1250. Now look at them! The list of others now made of gold is not short!

I was just having a quick look at E class prices and W/S211 prices have gone mental too.

In particular E500 saloons.

This one is in thread spec but it's £6995 for a 16 year old car. Surely they're not that desirable?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102098...

Goodness I love that interior.

[deeen]

Chrishum said:

deeen said:

I like this thread because, while I might find £3k down the back of the sofa one day, there's definitely not £9k down there!

Is there any chance you've got a cheap sofa for sale? All I find down the back of mine are old sweets and the odd £1 coin.

Well it was cheap, a year ago, but now the market has gone crazy with Covid pricing...

[mondayo]

stickleback123 said:

bolidemichael said:

I honestly am attracted more to my 500 that the equivalent 55. I think that it's the understated nature of the proposition. It's still able to cover ground very rapidly and in comfort, without perhaps that addictive super bike-esque bursts of accelerative power. This may explain why I maintain a clean licence, the AMG would ruin me

Agreed, I think a 380bhp 5.5 litre E500 in grandad spec would be a superb daily and a bit of a sleeper. At this stage of their lifecyle it's far more likely to have had an easy life than any of the AMGs, which will have been owned by a series of hooligans and dreamers, very often of ever decreasing ability to feed it expensive parts and maintenance, but and inversely proportional ability to source gash modifications and stick on tat.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th March 19:46

The acceleration of the E55 is good. You have to plan ahead though because it gets silly, quickly.

As stickleback says, a E500 with the 5.5 is s very tempting proposition though.
There's currently a 56 plate estate one for £9950 on autotrader that's been for sale for ages.
Or you can get a E55 estate for less...

[bolidemichael]

mondayo said:

stickleback123 said:

bolidemichael said:

I honestly am attracted more to my 500 that the equivalent 55. I think that it's the understated nature of the proposition. It's still able to cover ground very rapidly and in comfort, without perhaps that addictive super bike-esque bursts of accelerative power. This may explain why I maintain a clean licence, the AMG would ruin me

Agreed, I think a 380bhp 5.5 litre E500 in grandad spec would be a superb daily and a bit of a sleeper. At this stage of their lifecyle it's far more likely to have had an easy life than any of the AMGs, which will have been owned by a series of hooligans and dreamers, very often of ever decreasing ability to feed it expensive parts and maintenance, but and inversely proportional ability to source gash modifications and stick on tat.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th March 19:46

The acceleration of the E55 is good. You have to plan ahead though because it gets silly, quickly.

As stickleback says, a E500 with the 5.5 is s very tempting proposition though.
There's currently a 56 plate estate one for £9950 on autotrader that's been for sale for ages.
Or you can get a E55 estate for less...

He's being greedy

[bolidemichael]

Taita said:

mondayo said:

Macron said:

lemansky said:

Apart from a complaint about how expensive everything is these days

Well that's not wrong!!!

I sold a 3 door E30 325i Sport for £1250. Now look at them! The list of others now made of gold is not short!

I was just having a quick look at E class prices and W/S211 prices have gone mental too.

In particular E500 saloons.

This one is in thread spec but it's £6995 for a 16 year old car. Surely they're not that desirable?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102098...

Goodness I love that interior.

You're right! There's extended leather everywhere, even on the middle of the steering wheel. Sumptuous.

[anonymous-user]

bolidemichael said:

You're right! There's extended leather everywhere, even on the middle of the steering wheel. Sumptuous.

I think I've been spoiled, there is an awful lot of "elephant hide effect" plastic on display there for me; door tops, centre console, the entire dash. It's only the seats, middle of the door panels, and the steering wheel that are leather?

[Emeye]

bolidemichael said:

Emeye said:

mondayo said:

bolidemichael said:

Oh Christ, there's another thread? Does that one move as fast as this?

That one moves much more slowly.... we're talking serious money on there

Ah, so is there any point to this thread any more? Maybe shut it down and then create a £10-15k thread?

Psychology suggests if someone posts a £6k E49 in the £5-10k thread it’s a bargain rather than an overpriced desperate money grab in this thread. We can all reset our expectations to Covid car dealer land and peace and harmony is restored to all.

Where would all of the us losers converge?

You are of course correct. I'll shut up and sort out seling some cars so I can get on with finding this unicorn usable classic merc V8 within THIS thread budget.

[0a]

bolidemichael said:

Taita said:

mondayo said:

Macron said:

lemansky said:

Apart from a complaint about how expensive everything is these days

Well that's not wrong!!!

I sold a 3 door E30 325i Sport for £1250. Now look at them! The list of others now made of gold is not short!

I was just having a quick look at E class prices and W/S211 prices have gone mental too.

In particular E500 saloons.

This one is in thread spec but it's £6995 for a 16 year old car. Surely they're not that desirable?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102098...

Goodness I love that interior.

You're right! There's extended leather everywhere, even on the middle of the steering wheel. Sumptuous.

Yet other bits look so cheap, eg this:

[anonymous-user]

0a said:

Yet other bits look so cheap, eg this:

Yeuch, that looks like it came right out of the 1990s Chrysler parts bin.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 7th March 22:17

[lemansky]

I think if I was sat in the back, it would be the fear/dread of the fan kicking in that would be my overriding thought, never mind the temperature.

A shower of someone else's skin/dandruff. Noice.

[bolidemichael]

stickleback123 said:

bolidemichael said:

You're right! There's extended leather everywhere, even on the middle of the steering wheel. Sumptuous.

I think I've been spoiled, there is an awful lot of "elephant hide effect" plastic on display there for me; door tops, centre console, the entire dash. It's only the seats, middle of the door panels, and the steering wheel that are leather?

It's hard to tell, but we all start from different points of expectation, clearly!

[cat220]

mondayo said:

stickleback123 said:

bolidemichael said:

I honestly am attracted more to my 500 that the equivalent 55. I think that it's the understated nature of the proposition. It's still able to cover ground very rapidly and in comfort, without perhaps that addictive super bike-esque bursts of accelerative power. This may explain why I maintain a clean licence, the AMG would ruin me

Agreed, I think a 380bhp 5.5 litre E500 in grandad spec would be a superb daily and a bit of a sleeper. At this stage of their lifecyle it's far more likely to have had an easy life than any of the AMGs, which will have been owned by a series of hooligans and dreamers, very often of ever decreasing ability to feed it expensive parts and maintenance, but and inversely proportional ability to source gash modifications and stick on tat.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th March 19:46

The acceleration of the E55 is good. You have to plan ahead though because it gets silly, quickly.

As stickleback says, a E500 with the 5.5 is s very tempting proposition though.
There's currently a 56 plate estate one for £9950 on autotrader that's been for sale for ages.
Or you can get a E55 estate for less...

Can you really get an e55k estate for less though. I mean a decent one?
The amg car brings a lot more than just outright speed. Even my s210 e55, the way it drives when pushed hard is very non barge like. My old 745i wouldn’t see which way it went!