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[cmvtec]

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

My best mate always manages cheap insurance on some mental stuff - an Evo 10 estate imported from Japan with a hell-tonne of mods cost £500 to insure.

I was paying almost £1k to insure my 2.2 diesel auto X-Type Jag. I had the car for years and that was the best I could get the last time I renewed, so comparatively speaking I am overjoyed at insuring a 3.0 S-Type, and a shed Golf for less than that. I can't say enough good things about Keith Michaels for this, the broker I deal with beat the price of the comparison sites on the S-Type by over £300.

[Stegel]

bolidemichael said:

MercedesClassic said:

J_Wood3 said:

bolidemichael said:

Krikkit said:

ETA: Can someone tell me why this 211 500 estate is so pricey? It looks in good fettle but 10 bags.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010185...

The seller is greedy and is holding on to what he perceives is a rare and desirable vehicle.

It has an extra 80bhp over the older 500, and fixes a load of the bigger problems (rust, SBC). Dangerously close to 55 AMG pricing though.

That steering wheel looks like a crap kids toy as well....

It's sad whenever you know the car you're referring to before even clicking the link

As Michael has said there's maybe an element of greed or speculation on them part of the seller. To me it looks a little plain compared to Stegels which looked much better.

I think it's in a tough place because for around that money you can get a fully loaded S500 limo for less money which will look so much more expensive.

You gotta really want that engine in an estate body to open negotiations and most people needing a car like that will go SUV.

The chap that sold his S211 to Grote had a serious conversation with the seller within the first month of advertising. The seller has just purchased a 212 iirc and was unmovable on the price with the 'I'm not in a hurry to sell' attitude. What's worse is that sitting around does a car no favours.

My car is newer, cheaper, better equipped and 30k fewer miles, so that one sticking around is no surprise. I did want that engine in an estate (dogs) but the blue car has little going for it and is overpriced. Re 55s, indeed and probably will have greater value very long term, but the fact this car passes for a diesel was the reason I’d rather have it over an AMG.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

[Bear-n]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

I agree with airport.

[RicksAlfas]

Dapster said:

I've uncovered a company called "Arrows" in Japan who'll rebuild you a S124 or classic W463 G Wagen in rather hipster-tastic period looking colours with natty seat upholstery (not standard). They also de-wood the dash to underline the pov-spec ambiance! £27k for a finished 320TE or £13 grand to refurb your own car.




https://www.e-arrows.jp/arrowsclassicline.html#1

Those prices can't be right can they?
They seem way too cheap for what I'm assuming is a full body job.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

Cheapest I could find for my LS460 was £420 this year. I'm 32, no points on my licence, never had any accident and 11 or 12 years NCB (was a named driver for a while in my early years!).

I think when you tot up how much per year one spends on fuel, servicing, MOT etc it is odd to rule out some cars if they cost a bit more. So if a lovely car cost £350 to insure you wouldn't do it, because it would cost you under a tank of fuel extra per year?

[cmvtec]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

I'm quite happy with ~ £500 per car for fully comp/10k miles/business.

The tax thing, however... When I was looking at these 3.0 S-Types, any post 2006 cars were £600 a year to tax. Mine is £340 for exactly the same car. I rejected loads of newer ones that were very lovely because of that.

If there was a car I really, really wanted and the tax was £600, I would buy it regardless, but when you can get one that's less, it's a no brainer.

I do have some friends and colleagues who suck air through their teeth when it's anything more than £30 per annum.

[r129sl]

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

[cmvtec]

r129sl said:

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

I'd be on that like a tramp on chips if I could.

[Shnozz]

They are beginning to age just as well as the R107 imho.

Very tempted if I can find a good LHD one. There’s a £6k 320 LHD on eBay but doesn’t look great condition. Happy with a higher mile/not mint car as I plan on using it rather than it being a garage queen.

[RicksAlfas]

r129sl said:

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

Very handsome car.
How heavy must that hardtop be?!

[JOB2.5-16]

bolidemichael said:

Well it is salt-free.

I believe Wiltshire is a pretty saline free zone old boy, but it sounds very exotic. Being a northern fruitcake, I've obviously never been there.

[W00DY]

r129sl said:

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

I'm generally an early SL guy, but that is incredibly attractive.

[W00DY]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

Cheapest I could find for my LS460 was £420 this year. I'm 32, no points on my licence, never had any accident and 11 or 12 years NCB (was a named driver for a while in my early years!).

I think when you tot up how much per year one spends on fuel, servicing, MOT etc it is odd to rule out some cars if they cost a bit more. So if a lovely car cost £350 to insure you wouldn't do it, because it would cost you under a tank of fuel extra per year?

My BMW is significantly more expensive to insure and tax than the daily Golf whilst doing a lot fewer miles, but it doesn't bother me. The fact that a 320d would be more than double the insurance cost on the Golf as a daily, is however enough to make me discount one completely.

[olly755]

r129sl said:

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

That is superb, and identical to the example purchased brand new by the lady I was working for at the time that I lusted after so much. Both, if you're asking.

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to bemoan the price and 3 figure mileage, but personally I think that is great value. A very safe place to put your ten grand.

[LetsTryAgain]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

Do you know what is odd? Full whack road tax doesn't put me off... Haha.
As the yanks would say - "Go figure!".

[Dapster]

RicksAlfas said:

Dapster said:

I've uncovered a company called "Arrows" in Japan who'll rebuild you a S124 or classic W463 G Wagen in rather hipster-tastic period looking colours with natty seat upholstery (not standard). They also de-wood the dash to underline the pov-spec ambiance! £27k for a finished 320TE or £13 grand to refurb your own car.




https://www.e-arrows.jp/arrowsclassicline.html#1

Those prices can't be right can they?
They seem way too cheap for what I'm assuming is a full body job.

Prices correct at 150 JPY to the GBP. Does seem cheap doesn't it?

https://thumbsnap.com/sc/si3i1iwr.png?0421

[Stegel]

RicksAlfas said:

r129sl said:

I've lusted after one of those Arrows cars for a long time. I really like the style.

This is double thread budget but there may be some genuine interest in this thread. It is local to me although I don't know the vendor. It looks like a pretty sensible proposition from an enthusiastic owner. I know it is not Friday so I hope I will be forgiven.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Mercedes-Benz-SL50...

Very handsome car.
How heavy must that hardtop be?!

They’re more awkward than heavy, my wife and I manage the fitting and removal without issue. The tension that does exist on such occasions is entirely down to the dire warnings of paint damage I dispense beforehand and my wife’s reaction to being told what to do! I do have a roof mounted hoist in the garage but I trust that less than my wife, and it’s a lot of hassle. I would like one of the MB “cranes” that I believe r129SL has, but they’re rare, cost more than a panoramic roof and it’s something else to store.

[TommoAE86]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

LetsTryAgain said:

cmvtec said:

If only!

I've just insured my S-Type for £500, and my old Golf shed is £380. If I hadn't discovered a really good guy at Keith Michaels, for both, this is still less than I was paying for an X-Type diesel.

Insurance kills me. I'm 31, good postcode and 9 years NCD!

I'm only a couple of years ahead of you but there is no way I'll pay over £300 PA for anything at all.
I just won't buy whatever it is if i can't get it for less than that.

I know that insurance can be a concern for those of you young enough to need to worry about such things, and of course it's your money, but to reject a car for an insurance bill of a few hundred quid seems as daft to me as rejecting a car due to a few hundred quid extra tax.

Cheapest I could find for my LS460 was £420 this year. I'm 32, no points on my licence, never had any accident and 11 or 12 years NCB (was a named driver for a while in my early years!).

I think when you tot up how much per year one spends on fuel, servicing, MOT etc it is odd to rule out some cars if they cost a bit more. So if a lovely car cost £350 to insure you wouldn't do it, because it would cost you under a tank of fuel extra per year?

I was frustrated with my Crown's insurance & I felt penalised for getting my cars from the other side of the planet, I mean really it's just a Lexus - but at a shade under £600 (and I'm older with more NCB than both CM and Rex) I don't feel so bad, it's the price I pay for having something different

[tobinen]

That R129 is very nice. With National Trust sticker too.

Edited by tobinen on Wednesday 21st April 10:41