RE: Hyundai i30 N | PH Used Buying Guide
Discussion
greenarrow said:
I've also wondered why the 308 GTI didn't get more praise and coverage, considering its usefully lighter than any other full fat hot hatch on sale and seems to do the business on road and track. I wonder if it is because the 308GTI was a very good car, but not class leading against something like the Civic Type R and the Renault Sport Megane 275 which was still on sale when it was launched and therefore always likely to be overshadowed by its illustrious class leading ancestors such as the 205 and 306 GTIs, whereas the Hyundai was a first effort from a marque with no history of building hot hatches and therefore considered more laudable and surprising as a result?
Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
GR Yaris is lighter and with AWD. Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
4BB7 said:
boozyjay said:
I ran a 308 GTI 270 for 3 years. It's a vastly underrated hot hatch and they go for silly money now, brand new and second hand. Mine never put a foot wrong, I even got used to the small steering wheel and the infotainment system. I'd have another no problem at all.
Hi. I'm looking to buy one next month, do you have an tips for things to look out for? My budget is 15k and there isn't many for sale at all at the moment. Plus there's the reality now that I might not be able to test drive before buying. I've read about the pistons in the front calipers seizing, did you experience this? Anything else tk look for?
Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers.
boozyjay said:
Alcon brakes, discs and pads are expensive to replace so check if they have been changed or need to be changed. Extended Peugeot warranty is cheap and worth having for piece of mind. Glove box is tiny (really tiny!) but apart from that I fully recommend one. I sold mine a few months back and regret it, you won't see many about so they are a bit exclusive, I think I saw about 4 others on the road in 3 years of ownership. I had no real issues with the infotainment, the phone was tricky to use on the move so I really didn't dial out, but all the other controls are fine (sat nav is road only not postcode but is easy to use) I found the interior was well built. Seats are well comfy and they massage you too. it's economical, fast and I think the tax was about £200 per year.
Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. That's really useful. How would I know if the brake calipers/discs had been changed? Will this be recorded in the service manual/log?
4BB7 said:
boozyjay said:
Alcon brakes, discs and pads are expensive to replace so check if they have been changed or need to be changed. Extended Peugeot warranty is cheap and worth having for piece of mind. Glove box is tiny (really tiny!) but apart from that I fully recommend one. I sold mine a few months back and regret it, you won't see many about so they are a bit exclusive, I think I saw about 4 others on the road in 3 years of ownership. I had no real issues with the infotainment, the phone was tricky to use on the move so I really didn't dial out, but all the other controls are fine (sat nav is road only not postcode but is easy to use) I found the interior was well built. Seats are well comfy and they massage you too. it's economical, fast and I think the tax was about £200 per year.
Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. That's really useful. How would I know if the brake calipers/discs had been changed? Will this be recorded in the service manual/log?
boozyjay said:
Depends who you buy from. I kept all my receipts for the new owner so don’t discount buying privately as the seller should know a fair bit about the history of the car. A main dealer would do checks on the pads and discs prior to sale as one of the checkpoints I would have thought.
Okay great, thanks a lot! 3 Years old in a few months, and 22k miles in. It's ace. No issues whatsoever. Servicing costs are reasonable. Mid 40s are attainable cruising on a long run MPG wise, most of the time I'm averaging mid 20s.
I'm terrible for changing cars but I'm most likely keeping this when the PCP is due up. Anyone who can't see past the badge is missing out on a cracking bit of kit. I've had 2 Audis and honestly cant see me going german again.
I'm terrible for changing cars but I'm most likely keeping this when the PCP is due up. Anyone who can't see past the badge is missing out on a cracking bit of kit. I've had 2 Audis and honestly cant see me going german again.
ecsrobin said:
greenarrow said:
I've also wondered why the 308 GTI didn't get more praise and coverage, considering its usefully lighter than any other full fat hot hatch on sale and seems to do the business on road and track. I wonder if it is because the 308GTI was a very good car, but not class leading against something like the Civic Type R and the Renault Sport Megane 275 which was still on sale when it was launched and therefore always likely to be overshadowed by its illustrious class leading ancestors such as the 205 and 306 GTIs, whereas the Hyundai was a first effort from a marque with no history of building hot hatches and therefore considered more laudable and surprising as a result?
Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
GR Yaris is lighter and with AWD. Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
Those commenting things like, heavy steering, harsh ride etc did you just jump in a whack the N mode button or have a play with the settings?
When I had a test drive I just stuck it in N and had a laugh, bought one and drove home in N. Got a little uncomfortably bouncy on a section of B road.
It was only upon reading the manual I realised that 2 presses of the N mode button got you into N Custom mode where you can configure about 8 settings to do with chassis and drivetrain. Unlike other cars Ive had changing the settings actually makes a massive difference, even my not at all interested in cars wife can easily tell the difference from the passenger seat.
My N Custom setting is softest suspension, lighter steering then everything else wound up to near max, engine response and rev matching toned down a tad as otherwise its a bit jerky when not on it.
When I had a test drive I just stuck it in N and had a laugh, bought one and drove home in N. Got a little uncomfortably bouncy on a section of B road.
It was only upon reading the manual I realised that 2 presses of the N mode button got you into N Custom mode where you can configure about 8 settings to do with chassis and drivetrain. Unlike other cars Ive had changing the settings actually makes a massive difference, even my not at all interested in cars wife can easily tell the difference from the passenger seat.
My N Custom setting is softest suspension, lighter steering then everything else wound up to near max, engine response and rev matching toned down a tad as otherwise its a bit jerky when not on it.
RB Will said:
Those commenting things like, heavy steering, harsh ride etc did you just jump in a whack the N mode button or have a play with the settings?
When I had a test drive I just stuck it in N and had a laugh, bought one and drove home in N. Got a little uncomfortably bouncy on a section of B road.
It was only upon reading the manual I realised that 2 presses of the N mode button got you into N Custom mode where you can configure about 8 settings to do with chassis and drivetrain. Unlike other cars Ive had changing the settings actually makes a massive difference, even my not at all interested in cars wife can easily tell the difference from the passenger seat.
My N Custom setting is softest suspension, lighter steering then everything else wound up to near max, engine response and rev matching toned down a tad as otherwise its a bit jerky when not on it.
I do the same with my Cupra and tend to leave it in that mode all the time, but i have the steering whacked up too, as the Comfort setting for that is so sloppy and vague. I know there's a lot more customisation on these though.When I had a test drive I just stuck it in N and had a laugh, bought one and drove home in N. Got a little uncomfortably bouncy on a section of B road.
It was only upon reading the manual I realised that 2 presses of the N mode button got you into N Custom mode where you can configure about 8 settings to do with chassis and drivetrain. Unlike other cars Ive had changing the settings actually makes a massive difference, even my not at all interested in cars wife can easily tell the difference from the passenger seat.
My N Custom setting is softest suspension, lighter steering then everything else wound up to near max, engine response and rev matching toned down a tad as otherwise its a bit jerky when not on it.
greenarrow said:
ecsrobin said:
greenarrow said:
I've also wondered why the 308 GTI didn't get more praise and coverage, considering its usefully lighter than any other full fat hot hatch on sale and seems to do the business on road and track. I wonder if it is because the 308GTI was a very good car, but not class leading against something like the Civic Type R and the Renault Sport Megane 275 which was still on sale when it was launched and therefore always likely to be overshadowed by its illustrious class leading ancestors such as the 205 and 306 GTIs, whereas the Hyundai was a first effort from a marque with no history of building hot hatches and therefore considered more laudable and surprising as a result?
Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
GR Yaris is lighter and with AWD. Certainly anyone considering an i30n should take a look at a 308GTI first.
Wow. Didn't realise how well they're holding their value. Thought I saw some brand new discounted Fastbacks in the low £20k's last year so was expecting the hatches to have fallen further.
I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
Cornish Pete said:
Wow. Didn't realise how well they're holding their value. Thought I saw some brand new discounted Fastbacks in the low £20k's last year so was expecting the hatches to have fallen further.
I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
Yup, they had a black Friday offer in 2019 that was somewhere around £23k, I was very very tempted.I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
BevR said:
Cornish Pete said:
Wow. Didn't realise how well they're holding their value. Thought I saw some brand new discounted Fastbacks in the low £20k's last year so was expecting the hatches to have fallen further.
I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
Yup, they had a black Friday offer in 2019 that was somewhere around £23k, I was very very tempted.I'd certainly consider one of these. Sounds like a lot of fun. Even if only until the novelty of playing with the various settings wears off.
Sat in one a couple of years ago and did the usual prodding, poking and squishing. I was very impressed with how well built it felt. So disappointed to hear they have niggles.
BevR said:
Yup, they had a black Friday offer in 2019 that was somewhere around £23k, I was very very tempted.
I was getting Carwow quotes in Jan-Feb 2020 (just before lockdown hit) of £23k on PCP for a Performance Blue N Performance model. There just wasn't (and still isn't) anything that gets even close new for the money, IMO . Had it not been for Covid, I would have gone ahead.Having to stump up £19k for a 3 year old one doesn't seem anywhere near as good a deal, even if it does have 2 years of warranty left.
I have a lot of faith in the fundamental mechanical integrity of these cars. As well as Biermann's oversight, a fleet of these was serially abused all day at the Millbrook events by (and in front of) hundreds of prospective punters (one of the challenges was to simply rev the knackers off a stationary car and see how many decibels you could register, and another was a 0-60 challenge), but Hyundai's warranty also covers non-competitive track use. It smacks of a decent amount of faith in the product on Hyundai's part.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff