RE: 2021 Volkswagen Golf R | UK Review

RE: 2021 Volkswagen Golf R | UK Review

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Team Muttley

171 posts

154 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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ajap1979 said:
From what I can gather the only thing Pro Nav on the MK8 gives you is the ability to display the navigation on the screen behind the steering wheel. It would be £1600 wasted IMO.
Funnily enough my 2018 MK7.5 R has that as standard from the stock stereo that it came with. Not to mention "WinterPack", Spare wheel, bonnet struts etc.. which the MK8 R either doesn't have or has to have added from the options list.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Team Muttley said:
ajap1979 said:
From what I can gather the only thing Pro Nav on the MK8 gives you is the ability to display the navigation on the screen behind the steering wheel. It would be £1600 wasted IMO.
Funnily enough my 2018 MK7.5 R has that as standard from the stock stereo that it came with.
On my 67 R with standard Discover nav you can’t have dual maps, it either displays on the infotainment screen or on the active info display. On the Pro nav you can mirror the map on both screens. You also get voice and gesture control.


Edited by ajap1979 on Thursday 25th February 22:38

Sten.

2,215 posts

134 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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ajap1979 said:
No surprise, but it looks a bit nippy in a straight line...

https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
I was very surprised how far ahead of the other two it was. I know it's not all about straight line pace, but that's impressive.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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nickfrog said:
The Tiguan's boot is the same size as a Golf estate's in a smaller footprint. Both great solution for airport runs IME.
So you mean it has more height to make up the reduced length? Suppose it does work for suitcases as they can be stood upright. But when it comes to packing in smaller items right to the top, the seat backs are well below the roof so some kind of cargo barrier is needed to make full use.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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F20CN16 said:
nickfrog said:
The Tiguan's boot is the same size as a Golf estate's in a smaller footprint. Both great solution for airport runs IME.
So you mean it has more height to make up the reduced length? Suppose it does work for suitcases as they can be stood upright. But when it comes to packing in smaller items right to the top, the seat backs are well below the roof so some kind of cargo barrier is needed to make full use.
True. On my old Forester I got a dog guard for £35 - could be stacked to the roof.

Hackney

6,827 posts

208 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781

TameRacingDriver

18,068 posts

272 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Sten. said:
ajap1979 said:
No surprise, but it looks a bit nippy in a straight line...

https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
I was very surprised how far ahead of the other two it was. I know it's not all about straight line pace, but that's impressive.
I would be interested to see a drag race between this and the last version. I would imagine the last version was more of a similar pace to the M135 and A35.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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TameRacingDriver said:
Sten. said:
ajap1979 said:
No surprise, but it looks a bit nippy in a straight line...

https://youtu.be/HmANHSVPEpo
I was very surprised how far ahead of the other two it was. I know it's not all about straight line pace, but that's impressive.
I would be interested to see a drag race between this and the last version. I would imagine the last version was more of a similar pace to the M135 and A35.
Maybe the 135 and 35 drivers were paid £25k? wink

Carl_Manchester

12,160 posts

262 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Hackney said:
culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781
I don't have an issue with the price as long as we get 400bhp. At this power level it does not add up.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Hackney said:
culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781
Each to their own, but i could easily strip pretty much the vast majority of that stuff off and be happy with a more standard spec car, personally. Speccing up any German car is rarely a cheap affair. It shouldn't really be a surprise how much extra money you can add on by piling on pretty much all of the available options.

The usual entry points into these are cheap leases, which means staying light on the options for the best possible value.

Legacywr

12,084 posts

188 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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culpz said:
Hackney said:
culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781
Each to their own, but i could easily strip pretty much the vast majority of that stuff off and be happy with a more standard spec car, personally. Speccing up any German car is rarely a cheap affair. It shouldn't really be a surprise how much extra money you can add on by piling on pretty much all of the available options.

The usual entry points into these are cheap leases, which means staying light on the options for the best possible value.
It’s pretty much the spec I’d want too, silly price at over 50k.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Legacywr said:
culpz said:
Hackney said:
culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781
Each to their own, but i could easily strip pretty much the vast majority of that stuff off and be happy with a more standard spec car, personally. Speccing up any German car is rarely a cheap affair. It shouldn't really be a surprise how much extra money you can add on by piling on pretty much all of the available options.

The usual entry points into these are cheap leases, which means staying light on the options for the best possible value.
It’s pretty much the spec I’d want too, silly price at over 50k.
You'd pay £44k though. Personally I think most of that stuff is completely superfluous in a hot hatch, particularly slippy leather and cameras/park assist (have people lost the ability to park a car?). If you want a luxury car go and spec up a 340i and see where you get to on cost.

Legacywr

12,084 posts

188 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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ajap1979 said:
You'd pay £44k though. Personally I think most of that stuff is completely superfluous in a hot hatch, particularly slippy leather and cameras/park assist (have people lost the ability to park a car?). If you want a luxury car go and spec up a 340i and see where you get to on cost.
Kind of agree, except, it trips over in to being a luxury car at this price point. I wouldn't be looking for a 340i as an alternative, that's for sure.

jl4069

195 posts

102 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Have to wonder about the 1550 kilo weight of this mk8. With the mark 7 r weights were all over the place. I often saw 1500 kilos for the 7, i wonder if the 8 has gained 50 kilos or so. I could imagine they have added a nice big particulate filter. That could be why the car doesn't get up on its toes anymore. j

ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Seems VWs figures are a bit conservative. Carwow have timed the 0 – 60 in 4.03 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9LEro19Ues&fe...

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Legacywr said:
culpz said:
Hackney said:
culpz said:
Yeah, that is a bugger.

If the threshold was higher or didn't exist at all, would that do anything for you?

Also, what needs to be specced on this to get it to £50k?

All genuine questions btw.
Based on my configiuration
Lapiz Blue £755
Winter Pack £470
R Performance Pack £2,000
Dynamic Chassis Control £785
Rear View Camera £300
Akrapovic Exhaust £3,000
Park Assist £200
Harman Kardon £625
Nappa Leather inc Heated Front Seats (not sure how that squares with Winter Pack TBH) £2,600
Front and Rear cameras £627
Load Liner £50

Total £50,781
Each to their own, but i could easily strip pretty much the vast majority of that stuff off and be happy with a more standard spec car, personally. Speccing up any German car is rarely a cheap affair. It shouldn't really be a surprise how much extra money you can add on by piling on pretty much all of the available options.

The usual entry points into these are cheap leases, which means staying light on the options for the best possible value.
It’s pretty much the spec I’d want too, silly price at over 50k.
You'd be happy to pay 3 grand for a slightly less restrictive and branded backbox only? £150 gets you pretty much the same results from the standard box being modified, which won't affect your warranty.

Silly decisions lead to silly prices.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Legacywr said:
ajap1979 said:
You'd pay £44k though. Personally I think most of that stuff is completely superfluous in a hot hatch, particularly slippy leather and cameras/park assist (have people lost the ability to park a car?). If you want a luxury car go and spec up a 340i and see where you get to on cost.
Kind of agree, except, it trips over in to being a luxury car at this price point. I wouldn't be looking for a 340i as an alternative, that's for sure.
That's because you're adding on luxury options.

Legacywr

12,084 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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culpz said:
You'd be happy to pay 3 grand for a slightly less restrictive and branded backbox only? £150 gets you pretty much the same results from the standard box being modified, which won't affect your warranty.

Silly decisions lead to silly prices.
I'd agree there, I spec'd it, but wether I'd actually pay it?

Legacywr

12,084 posts

188 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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culpz said:
That's because you're adding on luxury options.
Don't agree.

BTW, I bought a Mustang instead smile

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Legacywr said:
culpz said:
You'd be happy to pay 3 grand for a slightly less restrictive and branded backbox only? £150 gets you pretty much the same results from the standard box being modified, which won't affect your warranty.

Silly decisions lead to silly prices.
I'd agree there, I spec'd it, but wether I'd actually pay it?
It sounds good, granted, but it's massively overpriced.