RE: Audi RS e-tron GT | UK Review

RE: Audi RS e-tron GT | UK Review

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Evanivitch

8,790 posts

86 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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cerb4.5lee said:
We get told that electric cars are great for the environment and that they are the future, yet they are seriously heavy things that could potentially eat through the suspension/tyres/brakes.

As a general rule all the heavy cars I've had have been worse to drive in the corners and under braking than the lighter cars I've had. Although I'm told that these things don't suffer from that because the batteries give them a great CofG.

On here you often read how pointless and overweight a Range Rover is, yet these things pretty much weigh the same and they are lauded as the second coming(in reviews etc). I just don't get it. I'm a dinosaur though to be fair and I'm a big fan of the ICE so that probably doesn't help.
The "sporty" RS7 is 2000kg+. Let's not pretend this is an EV issue!

twin sparky

227 posts

176 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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CDP said:
ch37 said:
Colour: Love it

Back End: Really nice and tidy

Front End: Fussy, too many shapes and lines

Interior: Looks functional, would take that all day long over an iPad stuck to the dash
Not sure on the colour but at least it's different.

I'm really with you on the interior, so glad to see somebody finally scrapping the stuck-on iPads and going for proper buttons on the stuff that matters. It looks a really good place to be.
Agree with that.. had my Tesla for a year and honestly I want to go back to buttons and controls.

Fastdruid

7,050 posts

116 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Fetchez la vache said:
Glenn63 said:
I actually think it’s a bit of a looker! Raise that roof abit further back and could make a handsome estate.
A bit like this then...

Rain Prisk
I'm reminded of my dodgy efforts on what the Mach-e could look like if they took ~6in out of the floor...


cerb4.5lee

18,438 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Evanivitch said:
The "sporty" RS7 is 2000kg+. Let's not pretend this is an EV issue!
I do like to jump on the EV bashing bandwagon when I get the chance though! hehe

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Frimley111R

11,380 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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hornbaek said:
The end of the ICE is coming nearer - fast.
Not because of cars like this! You think its all cool and exciting but it's like sitting in an R8 and coasting down the road with the engine off! You'll never get the drama and excitement of a petrol car in an EV, never. An EV is a car with it's heart missing.

Great for everyday stuff but for the stuff that excites us, no chance? (Yes, I've driven EVs)

cedrichn

226 posts

15 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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hornbaek said:
The end of the ICE is coming nearer - fast.
Change disc, wake up.... People were saying this 2 centuries ago....

I am glad you like it - but don't force others to buy boring stuff

Hothouse

47 posts

54 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Is it just me that thinks it looks a lot like Kia Stinger.

Motormatt

339 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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pb8g09 said:
Yes yes yes!

This is more like it! Swap the MPV looking EVs and let’s have some more of this!

Don’t care about the weight- if it’s not less than 1200kg then it’s never going to feel light so forget about that.

More designs like this please EV makers
Quite agree.

I'm looking for an EV as a company car (sadly the budget wont stretch to a Taycan or Model S!) which leaves me looking at a sea of odd looking quasi-SUV's I just cant get remotely excited about. When will we see more stuff styled like this but at a more accessible price point?

the Carguy

36 posts

35 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Wow Love the Colour yes please

VR6 Eug

202 posts

163 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Very nice and I'm guessing it's a Porsche Tycan underneath but that's not a bad thing.

biggles330d

640 posts

114 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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My god that's an ugly car. What happened to elegance and style?

And 2.3 tonnes. This is the biggest issue for long range EV's - so much deadweight to give a range that 95% of the time you won't use between charges. It's getting to the point my Discovery 4 is starting to look lithe by comparison!

It's a no from me, and i'm an EV fan.

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Evanivitch said:
BlackWidow13 said:
2.4 tonnes. That is a lot of tonnes.
The RS7 is over 2 tonnes too! Lightweight isn't part of the target market.
Bigger batteries for more range / power / acceleration means it will get worse before Miraculous Battery Improvements next year.

TX.

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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cerb4.5lee said:
I thought adding lightness was always important in a drivers car, whereas now adding heaviness is important for a drivers car. I find it fascinating how times have changed for sure.

It is mad to think that I used to give the E92 M3 loads of stick for weighing 1650kg. I didn't realise how lucky I was to have a performance car that only weighed 1650kg! biggrin
M2C is 1600kg afaik.

TX.

SWoll

10,827 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Fetchez la vache said:
Glenn63 said:
I actually think it’s a bit of a looker! Raise that roof abit further back and could make a handsome estate.
A bit like this then...

Rain Prisk
Won't be long I imagine, the identical under the skin Taycan is getting a SportTurismo version shortly.


Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Meridius said:
Looks fantastic inside and out but I just cant get along with the weight of these things, nor do I really care about performance EV. Imagine if we could create something that still looks like this, weighs more like 1347kg and we stopped trying to hit 60mph in 3 seconds, using the energy to improve range distance, then we would be onto something.
Apparently power / acceleration is just a by product of more batteries needed for more range. If you make the thing lighter via less batteries it will accelerate slower but the range will suffer. EV experts feel free to correct me if wrong.

TX.

TomJamesCollier

4 posts

21 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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that taycan looks a bit like an audi

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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twin sparky said:
Not sure why everyone is complaining about weight ... an RS7 weights 2,505 KGs with fuel and oil.

Also remember this is the weight, the only addition is passengers and luggage, etc.
Nay chance "2,065kg kerb weight".

TX.

Evanivitch

8,790 posts

86 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Terminator X said:
Evanivitch said:
BlackWidow13 said:
2.4 tonnes. That is a lot of tonnes.
The RS7 is over 2 tonnes too! Lightweight isn't part of the target market.
Bigger batteries for more range / power / acceleration means it will get worse before Miraculous Battery Improvements next year.

TX.
Remind me again how long the Tesla P100D line has been available and how many mass produced cars have larger batteries?

LordFlathead

8,978 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Sure the Audi guys will love this but at £130k it's nothing special performance wise. The Tesla Model 3 LR is just as capable at £51.5k with the add on Performance Boost. Brings acceleration to within 0.1 seconds, and the Model 3 is 400KG lighter and way more efficient. Tesla also has a shorter wheelbase and fires out of bends just the same and it has better regenerative braking. LR has 300 miles range plus.. Then there is the Supercharger network. Even if the Audi was the same price as a Model 3 I would take the Tesla everyday over anything else that relies on the public charging network, it's just not reliable, maybe in 5 years time but not now. Audi shouts "Look at me!" Model 3 doesn't grab any unwanted attention.. maybe I'm getting too old wink

How about comparing it to the Tesla Model S which is more of a like for like offering then?

Tesla Model S Plaid £110k
390mi
Range (Est.)
200mph
Top Speed
1.99s

Tesla Model S Plaid + £130k
520+mi
Range (Est.)
200mph
Top Speed
<1.99s

Keep your Audi..

Did I mention the Supercharger network? smile

Escort Si-130

2,692 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Probably the best looking EV out there (other than the mentally expensive Lotus of course). They've nailed the styling.

Wheels are shocking though. So many EVs seem to have really awful wheels.
It is not all that good looking, the rear looks a bit to Porcshe Panorama. Much better electric cars out there than this,.