RE: Ford discontinues 2.3-litre Mustang in UK

RE: Ford discontinues 2.3-litre Mustang in UK

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LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Leon R said:
Better than the V6.
I would have thought the 3.7 V6 would have been a better bet and maybe snagged some old Capri 2.8 drivers with it's perfectly adequate 300hp. A "six" is less something you have to explain....

However, it seems Ford discontinued the V6 back in 2017, which I missed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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donkmeister said:
From a range perspective it's just too much of a gap to have 4's and 8's with no 6's in between.
Surely most manufacturers have exactly that these days? For instance, Jaguar F-type.

At least Corvette is V8 only - at the moment! driving

Olivera

7,131 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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donkmeister said:
The 4-cyl Mustang was the equivalent of Audi releasing an RS6 with a twin-turbo V8 petrol engine, then announcing the S6 will be a diesel... that would never happen.
Um that's exactly what happened, the S6 is now a diesel only.

otolith

56,082 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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bluesierra said:
Chewbacca NE said:
The reality is that it wasn’t much more economical than the V8
Really? What kind of figures did they get under Euro whatsit testing?
Highly unrealistic ones for how the car would actually be driven, I suspect.

irocfan

40,421 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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NigelCayless said:
The trip computer on my V8 GT says i'm averaging 20.3mpg which doesn't seem too bad
Really, do you have a particularly heavy right foot? I have to say I'd expect more from it (for reference I'm averaging 22.5 out of my 6.2 Camaro which is a real porker)

Master Bean

3,558 posts

120 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Olivera said:
donkmeister said:
The 4-cyl Mustang was the equivalent of Audi releasing an RS6 with a twin-turbo V8 petrol engine, then announcing the S6 will be a diesel... that would never happen.
Um that's exactly what happened, the S6 is now a diesel only.
Whoosh.

TREMAiNE

3,917 posts

149 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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irocfan said:
NigelCayless said:
The trip computer on my V8 GT says i'm averaging 20.3mpg which doesn't seem too bad
Really, do you have a particularly heavy right foot? I have to say I'd expect more from it (for reference I'm averaging 22.5 out of my 6.2 Camaro which is a real porker)
Over nearly 12,000 miles, I have averaged 25.4mpg

And on many 2-300 mile runs I've averaged 35-40mpg

I'm clearly not trying hard enough!

Bennet

2,122 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Well, I must be the only PH member who would have actually opted for the 4 cylinder if I were buying one.

I know the V8 sounds fantastic, but I tend to find I prefer the response and involvement you get from a 4 cylinder. (Or used to...)

All this stuff about the 2.3 being the equivalent of trouser stuffing is risible. Buying any Mustang, particularly the V8, is dangerously akin to trouser stuffing. It's called a "muscle car" for a reason. That's why people buy them.

irocfan

40,421 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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TREMAiNE said:
Over nearly 12,000 miles, I have averaged 25.4mpg

And on many 2-300 mile runs I've averaged 35-40mpg

I'm clearly not trying hard enough!
TBH that's more like I was expecting

Wheel_Turned_Out

573 posts

38 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Bennet said:
Well, I must be the only PH member who would have actually opted for the 4 cylinder if I were buying one.

I know the V8 sounds fantastic, but I tend to find I prefer the response and involvement you get from a 4 cylinder. (Or used to...)

All this stuff about the 2.3 being the equivalent of trouser stuffing is risible. Buying any Mustang, particularly the V8, is dangerously akin to trouser stuffing. It's called a "muscle car" for a reason. That's why people buy them.
Not really the point of the metaphor, as clunky as it was, though was it?

The idea was it has muscle car looks, without the growl to match it - hence the particular use of stuffing in the point that was made I imagine. Advertising a big bulge when in reality there's a small one. The V8 isn't "dangerously akin to trouser stuffing" in that sense because the car that sounds like it has a big shouty engine actually has a big shouty engine. So where there's promise of a big bulge, there is actually a big bulge.

Sounds like you're veering towards more making a point about overcompensation on the driver's part themselves. Which is very dangerous ground. In which case we should all be driving a Honda Jazz, because anything that has a big engine, aggressive styling, and a great noise, is going to be seen as overcompensation.



Avdb

176 posts

118 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I like a quiet car and would probably not have bought a V8. Enjoying my EB.

35.0 MPG over 6647 Miles


donkmeister

8,150 posts

100 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Master Bean said:
Olivera said:
donkmeister said:
The 4-cyl Mustang was the equivalent of Audi releasing an RS6 with a twin-turbo V8 petrol engine, then announcing the S6 will be a diesel... that would never happen.
Um that's exactly what happened, the S6 is now a diesel only.
Whoosh.
hehe

cerb4.5lee

30,538 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Avdb said:
I like a quiet car and would probably not have bought a V8. Enjoying my EB.

35.0 MPG over 6647 Miles

4 cylinder and an auto. cry

Each to their own but I'd find it impossible to resist the V8 and the manual. smokin

You can get a 4 cylinder engine and an auto in pretty much any car, the V8 makes the Mustang special for me(I'm a dinosaur though to be fair).

Sebastian Tombs

2,044 posts

192 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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matt3001 said:
Depends when you hired one. Pre MY2018 the non GT (V8) would have been a 3.7L V6. But in principle I agree, I think in the states the V6/2.3 works well at the price point its sold at.
I was expecting a v6, I was quite surprised to have an Ecoboost. It was brand new,

donkmeister

8,150 posts

100 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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LuS1fer said:
Leon R said:
Better than the V6.
I would have thought the 3.7 V6 would have been a better bet and maybe snagged some old Capri 2.8 drivers with it's perfectly adequate 300hp. A "six" is less something you have to explain....

However, it seems Ford discontinued the V6 back in 2017, which I missed.
I was pondering that comment too... The only thing I can think is the propshaft issue. I had a rental Mustang convertible with a V6 when they were current and was perplexed that it seemed to be limited to 110mph (I think... it was a few years ago now!). A quick google revealed that the V6 propshafts were of dubious quality and self-destructed a little above that.

But, I'm assuming the fours aren't limited to 110mph so the propshaft issue has presumably been resolved for this gen anyway?

ducnick

1,782 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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If you want a 4 pot auto, Merc, bmw, Audi etc all do better options for similar monthly payments. None of them do manual v8’s at sensible money though.
In the U.K. that’s the USP for the mustang for maybe 1 more yr until they pull the s550 out of the euro export market completely. Only die hard American car enthusiasts would buy any mustang in the mega high tax countries because local competition is cheaper and better at the same price point.

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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donkmeister said:
I was pondering that comment too... The only thing I can think is the propshaft issue. I had a rental Mustang convertible with a V6 when they were current and was perplexed that it seemed to be limited to 110mph (I think... it was a few years ago now!). A quick google revealed that the V6 propshafts were of dubious quality and self-destructed a little above that.

But, I'm assuming the fours aren't limited to 110mph so the propshaft issue has presumably been resolved for this gen anyway?
The older V6 Mustangs were limited so they could fit lower speed rated tyres. Cheapskate Mustangs need cheap tyres. The modern V6 does, however, seem to be hindered by a penny-pinching driveshaft. Unbelievable in this day and age.

V8 Stang

4,382 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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On a run the V8 is really not too bad on fuel. You can easily get high 20's on a run.

This was a recent business trip (so try and maximise my 45P/Mile) from Bristol to Middlewich and back.




Im not sure an eco-boost would have done that much better to warrant only having a 4 pot?


vanschpunk

143 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I just wish Ford had of thought a bit more about this S550 Mustang in the R&D stages. They could have taken into consideration its "One Ford Global Policy", remembered the Aussies where about to close up shop with the Falcon and their knowhow of the Barra6, and Ford could have covered alot of bases and had a real good global lineup with this segment size of vehicle, that could have had about a 10yr shelf-life globally with plenty editions and specials etc.

Mustang - 2dr coupe and vert, Falcon - 4dr saloon and estate. Imagine they where all offered with an entry level 2.3 Ecoboost, a middle of the road 4.0 Barra6, and a range topping 5.0 Coyote V8. Just imagine a Mustang with a Barra6 from the factory and the tuning potential.

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I'm not surprised they hardly sold any 4 cylinder ones in the UK - buying one of those would be like buying a Capri with a Pinto when there was a V6!

If I was buying a Mustang a manual V8 would be the only one I would want - that's what makes it unique.