What happened to genuinely posh cars and their targets?
Discussion
RMDB9 said:
Can we now come back to the Daimler brochure please.
Well that’s the difficult bit. It’s fair to say society has changed massively since the Daimler brochure and everyone in it are likely dead or demented. So it’s hard to say what car a set of dead people from the past or their now grown up children, who will have had a completely different exposure to the world will likely drive or be driven in.
But I would say likely a RR if driving themselves, in the back of an s class, now broke and in a shed from Volvo but still own a house, turned new money as their fathers married non blue blood and in a Bentley/Ferrari, or finally still in the Daimler the family have kept hold of.
Who f
king knows, it’s impossible to say based on a brochure from a car company and time that no longer exists. Surely everyone knows any self respecting landed gentry cad drives a classic TVR anyway.
Flumpo said:
Well that’s the difficult bit. It’s fair to say society has changed massively since the Daimler brochure and everyone in it are likely dead or demented.
While we are at it, I would like to mention that I would both ladies, although the programme would probably have been very conservative (missionary, and a fag afterwards).Furthermore, what do you think were these people's professions?
Funkstar De Luxe said:
Baldchap said:
You honestly think that's why people buy them? It isn't.
It is tho.Not because of virtue signalling
RMDB9 said:
Flumpo said:
Well that’s the difficult bit. It’s fair to say society has changed massively since the Daimler brochure and everyone in it are likely dead or demented.
While we are at it, I would like to mention that I would both ladies, although the programme would probably have been very conservative (missionary, and a fag afterwards).Furthermore, what do you think were these people's professions?
As for the woman, I need to start a new thread along the lines of, based on this brochure what pubic hair styles do you expect these ladies have. If I can get a general consensus of at least neatly trimmed up front and a fully waxed Skoda, then I would likely be interested.
Beyond that I haven’t given it much thought.
robsa said:
Ah, I see the old recurring "call that rich? THIS is rich" post has popped up again, love it. Just a matter of time before we see the binbag-full-of-cash at HR Owen post now. The names change but the content remains the same...
To be fair to the op, I think he was just providing a bit of fun, but forgot this is PH. It's been very fun reading through this.
One of my fleet is a Daimler - actually a very sensible choice of car I'd say, and not even awful on fuel compared to my "modern" Jag. 28 years ago it cost the equivalent of £99,300 now.
It's definitely a very different world of wood, sumptuous leather and insanely smooth suspension. These days, the equivalent luxury cars are all about technology, speed, harsh "sporty" ride, carbon fibre.....
And the big difference: a RR/Bentley/Daimler was always just "adequate" as far as the engine was concerned. These days, a luxury car has to have a million badges screaming how powerful it is and how well equipped it is.
But the "rich" are a different type today. Gone is the Great British subtlety, these days it's all about flashing what you've got.
Not all the ultra rich used to drive RR's or Jag V12s. Just like today, many didn't care and drove ratty old hatchbacks. At the end of the day, the "posh" will drive any high-end brand, just to show off.
One of my fleet is a Daimler - actually a very sensible choice of car I'd say, and not even awful on fuel compared to my "modern" Jag. 28 years ago it cost the equivalent of £99,300 now.
It's definitely a very different world of wood, sumptuous leather and insanely smooth suspension. These days, the equivalent luxury cars are all about technology, speed, harsh "sporty" ride, carbon fibre.....
And the big difference: a RR/Bentley/Daimler was always just "adequate" as far as the engine was concerned. These days, a luxury car has to have a million badges screaming how powerful it is and how well equipped it is.
But the "rich" are a different type today. Gone is the Great British subtlety, these days it's all about flashing what you've got.
Not all the ultra rich used to drive RR's or Jag V12s. Just like today, many didn't care and drove ratty old hatchbacks. At the end of the day, the "posh" will drive any high-end brand, just to show off.
Here's a different angle:-
The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
RMDB9 said:
Ok but would a "dignitary", as opposed to a premier league footballer, a foreign oligarch or corner shop/scrap metal industrialist from north England, really drive a Phantom? Or the (nice) 7 series in a frock, Ghost?
The new Ghost isn't a 7 series in a frock. It is a RR bespoke platform. Having been in an old gen ghost and that era 7 series I can assure you they are utterly worlds apart.psi310398 said:
The poshest man I know - baronetcy dating from the late Stuarts, large Grade 1 listed hice in a posh county of which both his father and grandfather had been Lords Lieutenant, etc - drives around in a twenty-five year old Subaru held together with baling twine (as quite often are his corduroys). His wife has a BMW MINI runabout. His grandfather’s post war Bentley is in the coachhouse but hasn’t seen daylight for thirty years, less still run any distance.
I’d hate to think what he’d say if it were suggested that he get a modern Bentley or a Maybach. After all, he’d even rib me pretty mercilessly about my elderly and completely unexceptional FFRR.
And the poshest person I know, a belted Earl, drives an F12 TDF, amongst other fun, modern things. I’d hate to think what he’d say if it were suggested that he get a modern Bentley or a Maybach. After all, he’d even rib me pretty mercilessly about my elderly and completely unexceptional FFRR.
I love threads like this. Snobbery and generalisation out in spades. "old money drives a Subaru held together by baling twine and anything else is vulgar".
I mean, seriously, get a grip. All people are differnt. For every aristo who doesn't care about cars, there's one with a barn full of them, some of which will be of dubiously tasteful specification. Just like the rest of us.
andyalan10 said:
Here's a different angle:-
The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
Queen Mum (not sure)?The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
RMDB9 said:
andyalan10 said:
Here's a different angle:-
The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
Queen Mum (not sure)?The role played by the Daimler limousine is likely now played by a Mercedes V-Class or VW equivalent. Or just maybe a Discovery 5. In other words something that can carry several people, possibly in impractical outfits and is easy to get in and out of. As I write this I realise that's also the perfect definition of an undertaker's car.
I can't imagine any people had a DS420 as their only or preferred method of transport.
Flumpo said:
Lester H said:
The huge market for seriously posh stuff, especially saloons in China and no expense spared stuff in the Middle East has resulted in an upsurge of bling. The days of the quiet, understated British RR has gone, along with all those ultra respectable, less posh, yet still well heeled makes like Armstrong Siddeley, Lea Francis, Daimler ,real Humbers Singers and, of course Bristol. Aston Martin seems to have steered clear of ostentation, though.
Really? I can’t see lord and lady snoot sending one of these to collect miss marple for a lovely weekend of mystery. 
Or someone announcing the delegation of Japanese royals have arrived.
Might aid discussion:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lp6xEUH3DZY
As for the queen mum, it seems she had Bentley, jag and a yellow RR at one point.
On that basis I think she would have gravitated towards a lwb RR as she still wouldn’t want any connection to the Germans. But... with her hips I think she would have probably ended up in the queens special Bentley out of necessity.
Margret would have a Lamborghini and date Chris brown.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lp6xEUH3DZY
As for the queen mum, it seems she had Bentley, jag and a yellow RR at one point.
On that basis I think she would have gravitated towards a lwb RR as she still wouldn’t want any connection to the Germans. But... with her hips I think she would have probably ended up in the queens special Bentley out of necessity.
Margret would have a Lamborghini and date Chris brown.
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