Opinions on loud exhausts

[ddom]

AW111 said:

Nice stalking, to dig up a post about a car that's been dead for nearly 40 years, in a thread about stupid things you did to your first car.

Clearly reading comprehension is as hard for both of you idiots as consideration.


ps I quietened that car down when I found out that it was annoying people.

Edited by AW111 on Thursday 8th April 03:14

Apology accepted

[otolith]

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

[ddom]

bigothunter said:

Have you actually read my posts? I'm an advocate of sporting exhaust sound quality on road cars providing they meet legal noise requirements. But I don't see the need for excessively load exhausts which are anti-social and often illegal.

You need to calm down dear

Yes, you have a specific set of criteria, which exclude yourself from falling into the category of owners which you’re protesting about. Just like that other chap. It’s actually funny.

[bigothunter]

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

Exhaust noise is both air and structure borne. Usually it is not the dominant noise in the interior.

Again I will suggest the reasons most people fit excessively loud exhausts is to show off or annoy others. All seems rather silly to me

[PH User]

Shall we move on from all the name calling?

[Countdown]

Jaguar steve said:

AW111 said:

One thing this thread PH highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.

FTFY.

PH is a portal into the mindset of those with enthusiasm for or involvement with cars that goes beyond white goods functionality.

The best strategy is to not demean oneself by lengthy engagements with the more notably selfish and entitled proponents and move on.

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

[Leon R]

Countdown said:

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

How do you enjoy cars while not partaking in anything that might irritate someone else.

[otolith]

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

Exhaust noise is both air and structure borne. Usually it is not the dominant noise in the interior.

Again I will suggest the reasons most people fit excessively loud exhausts is to show off or annoy others. All seems rather silly to me

Are you suggesting that a person cannot change what they hear inside the car by changing the exhaust, and that therefore that is never the motivation for changing the exhaust?

[bigothunter]

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

Exhaust noise is both air and structure borne. Usually it is not the dominant noise in the interior.

Again I will suggest the reasons most people fit excessively loud exhausts is to show off or annoy others. All seems rather silly to me

Are you suggesting that a person cannot change what they hear inside the car by changing the exhaust, and that therefore that is never the motivation for changing the exhaust?

No

[AC43]

clarkey said:

Some of my old cars were really loud - 964RS was amazing, Ducati 999R too. I use to have a KTM which my wife thought was a helicopter from a couple of miles away, that was probably a bit too loud.

I love the sound of all three of those. I've no idea how Harley make twins sound so st and Ducati make them sound utterly fabulous. Moto Guzzi the same. And there's big Suzuki twin which sounds musical too - can't recall what it's called.

[ddom]

Countdown said:

Jaguar steve said:

AW111 said:

One thing this thread PH highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.

FTFY.

PH is a portal into the mindset of those with enthusiasm for or involvement with cars that goes beyond white goods functionality.

The best strategy is to not demean oneself by lengthy engagements with the more notably selfish and entitled proponents and move on.

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

More obviously It shouldn't be a negative to have a 'mindset with enthusiasm for or involvement with cars that goes beyond white goods functionality' and if you were to regard cars as mundane pieces of transport it would be deeply strange to continue posting on a forum largely based around the enjoyment of cars and driving, whilst trying to draw responses by being contrary. But that's how it is.

[cuprabob]

AC43 said:

And there's big Suzuki twin which sounds musical too - can't recall what it's called.

TL1000R?

[161BMW]

If is 325i Sport (E30) with a Scorpion full sports exhaust system with STW tips for the closest to factory look then it sounds AWESOME 10/10.

If you got a new car on finance or a Nova or anything else with an after market exhaust obviously it sounds crap.

Edited by 161BMW on Thursday 8th April 11:19

[otolith]

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

Exhaust noise is both air and structure borne. Usually it is not the dominant noise in the interior.

Again I will suggest the reasons most people fit excessively loud exhausts is to show off or annoy others. All seems rather silly to me

Are you suggesting that a person cannot change what they hear inside the car by changing the exhaust, and that therefore that is never the motivation for changing the exhaust?

No

OK. So there's a lot of wiggle room for you in "most people" and "excessively loud", but given that you accept that a person might change the exhaust to change what they hear in the car, what's the basis of your assertion about the motivations of "most people"?

[PH User]

ddom said:

More obviously It shouldn't be a negative to have a 'mindset with enthusiasm for or involvement with cars that goes beyond white goods functionality' and if you were to regard cars as mundane pieces of transport it would be deeply strange to continue posting on a forum largely based around the enjoyment of cars and driving, whilst trying to draw responses by being contrary. But that's how it is.

It would be odd to be here if you did just view cars as white goods, as like you say, this is a website for car enthusiasts?

[bigothunter]

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

otolith said:

bigothunter said:

Why is this thread focussed purely on exterior noise when only interior sound quality matters to the driver?

Because exterior noise is what other people moan about, and unless you reroute the exhaust into the cabin it's the route by which it becomes internal noise?

And of course, if you have a convertible you are outside.

Exhaust noise is both air and structure borne. Usually it is not the dominant noise in the interior.

Again I will suggest the reasons most people fit excessively loud exhausts is to show off or annoy others. All seems rather silly to me

Are you suggesting that a person cannot change what they hear inside the car by changing the exhaust, and that therefore that is never the motivation for changing the exhaust?

No

OK. So there's a lot of wiggle room for you in "most people" and "excessively loud", but given that you accept that a person might change the exhaust to change what they hear in the car, what's the basis of your assertion about the motivations of "most people"?

Perception because I don't have access to statistical data. Do you?

[otolith]

bigothunter said:

Perception because I don't have access to statistical data. Do you?

I don't, hence why I'm not making assertions about what it is.

[njw1]

'Pistonheads; Speed matters moaning, self righteous grumpy old gits matter'

[Car 54 where are you]

I'm a Senior Citizen with one of the last pre-Competion M2s (The M2C sounds horrible).
I drive it all the time with the valves wide open.
Compliments are endless....

[cerb4.5lee]

Car 54 where are you said:

I'm a Senior Citizen with one of the last pre-Competion M2s (The M2C sounds horrible).
I drive it all the time with the valves wide open.
Compliments are endless....

I've always thought the OG M2 sounds nice and fruity whenever I've heard them as well. A chap had one at my daughters school and I always enjoyed listening to it as he drove past me.