RE: Genesis to launch in UK with G80 saloon
Discussion
Mouse Rat said:
I know these are excellent cars. But they are dull.
Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Why take one brand of car elsewhere for servicing, if that's your point? However, if you were alluding to poor service at the local Hyundai dealership, based on my knowledge of the local 'premium brand' dealers and knowledge of the long-established local family-owned Hyundai & Kia dealer, I suspect that you'd probably receive a better service in the latter. Admittedly, you wouldn't have the corporate porcelain tiles, the 'front-of-house' dollies, the coffee and petits-fours etc. but the actual service and wish to 'know the customer' would be more genuine. Perhaps old-fashioned values don't fit easily with brand and badge-obsessed customers?Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Of course, your experience of premium brand dealers might be different.
I suspect that the current thinking on these Korean manufacturers is not too far removed from views of Japanese cars coming into the UK in the 70s.
TarquinMX5 said:
Mouse Rat said:
I know these are excellent cars. But they are dull.
Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Why take one brand of car elsewhere for servicing, if that's your point? However, if you were alluding to poor service at the local Hyundai dealership, based on my knowledge of the local 'premium brand' dealers and knowledge of the long-established local family-owned Hyundai & Kia dealer, I suspect that you'd probably receive a better service in the latter. Admittedly, you wouldn't have the corporate porcelain tiles, the 'front-of-house' dollies, the coffee and petits-fours etc. but the actual service and wish to 'know the customer' would be more genuine. Perhaps old-fashioned values don't fit easily with brand and badge-obsessed customers?Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Of course, your experience of premium brand dealers might be different.
I suspect that the current thinking on these Korean manufacturers is not too far removed from views of Japanese cars coming into the UK in the 70s.
You know, it's entirely possible to have a great customer experience with a 'big brand' dealer AND with a small indy? At the same time, it's equally possible to have a crap experience with either/both as well.
I've had amazing service from multiple different large Audi and Porsche dealerships (with all the trappings you mention) and also had fantastic service from smaller Mazda dealers. Worst in my experience has been JLR, VW and Mercedes - particularly the arrogant b
d who was the sales 'specialist' on AMG badged vehicles.Horses for courses.
There’s something slightly awkward about the front end styling, that enormous grille but tiny little slits for headlights, but in a way I do like it.
I’d look at this foremost over any German branded vehicle, unfortunately I’d want an estate version (not an SUV or crossover) which I doubt would materialise.
I’d look at this foremost over any German branded vehicle, unfortunately I’d want an estate version (not an SUV or crossover) which I doubt would materialise.
PhantomPH said:
TarquinMX5 said:
Mouse Rat said:
I know these are excellent cars. But they are dull.
Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Why take one brand of car elsewhere for servicing, if that's your point? However, if you were alluding to poor service at the local Hyundai dealership, based on my knowledge of the local 'premium brand' dealers and knowledge of the long-established local family-owned Hyundai & Kia dealer, I suspect that you'd probably receive a better service in the latter. Admittedly, you wouldn't have the corporate porcelain tiles, the 'front-of-house' dollies, the coffee and petits-fours etc. but the actual service and wish to 'know the customer' would be more genuine. Perhaps old-fashioned values don't fit easily with brand and badge-obsessed customers?Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Of course, your experience of premium brand dealers might be different.
I suspect that the current thinking on these Korean manufacturers is not too far removed from views of Japanese cars coming into the UK in the 70s.
You know, it's entirely possible to have a great customer experience with a 'big brand' dealer AND with a small indy? At the same time, it's equally possible to have a crap experience with either/both as well.
I've had amazing service from multiple different large Audi and Porsche dealerships (with all the trappings you mention) and also had fantastic service from smaller Mazda dealers. Worst in my experience has been JLR, VW and Mercedes - particularly the arrogant b
d who was the sales 'specialist' on AMG badged vehicles.Horses for courses.
ZX10R NIN said:
The cars are very nice & a good steer I've driven a few in the states the G60 in particular impressed as a clear step on from the 3.8TT Genesis Coupe that sold well in the US, when you get in one they're easily on par with BMW.
Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
I know that's really low mileage, but surely you would have to be insane to pick that over a similarly aged 41k mile S Class?Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104141...
TarquinMX5 said:
PhantomPH said:
TarquinMX5 said:
Mouse Rat said:
I know these are excellent cars. But they are dull.
Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Why take one brand of car elsewhere for servicing, if that's your point? However, if you were alluding to poor service at the local Hyundai dealership, based on my knowledge of the local 'premium brand' dealers and knowledge of the long-established local family-owned Hyundai & Kia dealer, I suspect that you'd probably receive a better service in the latter. Admittedly, you wouldn't have the corporate porcelain tiles, the 'front-of-house' dollies, the coffee and petits-fours etc. but the actual service and wish to 'know the customer' would be more genuine. Perhaps old-fashioned values don't fit easily with brand and badge-obsessed customers?Also would one take their premium brand to the local hyundai dealership for servicing?
Of course, your experience of premium brand dealers might be different.
I suspect that the current thinking on these Korean manufacturers is not too far removed from views of Japanese cars coming into the UK in the 70s.
You know, it's entirely possible to have a great customer experience with a 'big brand' dealer AND with a small indy? At the same time, it's equally possible to have a crap experience with either/both as well.
I've had amazing service from multiple different large Audi and Porsche dealerships (with all the trappings you mention) and also had fantastic service from smaller Mazda dealers. Worst in my experience has been JLR, VW and Mercedes - particularly the arrogant b
d who was the sales 'specialist' on AMG badged vehicles.Horses for courses.
Worth noting - my folks are arguably badge obsessed. They would not entertain anything that wasn't Vauxhall for years and years. Now it's Mazda (despite s
t customer service on more than one occasion). Neither of which are status badges and yet they have their own obsessives.I’d buy a Volvo S90 instead.
If not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
If not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
robsa said:
ZX10R NIN said:
The cars are very nice & a good steer I've driven a few in the states the G60 in particular impressed as a clear step on from the 3.8TT Genesis Coupe that sold well in the US, when you get in one they're easily on par with BMW.
Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
I know that's really low mileage, but surely you would have to be insane to pick that over a similarly aged 41k mile S Class?Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104141...
It's The Way Of The World, people on here moaning about badges.
Why do some think Hyundai are In Too Deep with their new brand, surely there's a Misunderstanding as there's Never A Time to get Behind The Lines.
There's so much Small Talk on here, but It's Not About Us, Many Too Many are anti-Genesis, Ripples of dissatisfaction that should be cut with The Knife. For the Man On The Corner, Genesis is on the Horizon, but I'm sure that they have a Time Table, Am I Very Wrong? Tell Me Why?
Some people on here seem to think Genesis will be like an Illegal Alien, about to engage in a marketing Battle Of Epping Forest with likes of Audi and BMW, Throwing It All Away, but I Know What I Like. Hyundai will be basking in the Afterglow, I doubt that there will be Blood On The Rooftops.
I bet that the infotainment system will be akin to The Musical Box, where you can Turn It On Again, even if there's a Squonk.
If there was another model, badly needed, And Then There Were Three, it could be designed for the Duke's Travels.
There might be talk of The Dividing Line on here and Trespass on Audi/BMW territory by Genesis, but they're not Down And Out, although it's the Way Of The World, there's Never A Time to launch a new brand, Like It Or Not; it's not Follow You, Follow Me. However, to The Man On The Corner, it's just another car, If That's What You Need and I'm sure Hyundai have undertaken customer surveys, but No Reply At All.
In my opinion, all Hyundai need to launch a new brand is the Invisible Touch, and they'll be Counting Out Time and Driving The Last Spike until Audi/BMW are In The Cage and Hyundai are looking at a Silver Rainbow.
The new brand has definitely got a Hold On My Heart, they're certainly not Fading Lights, and Me And Sarah Jane like it. It's not a Trick Of The Tail.
That's All, Mama.
Seconds Out
Why do some think Hyundai are In Too Deep with their new brand, surely there's a Misunderstanding as there's Never A Time to get Behind The Lines.
There's so much Small Talk on here, but It's Not About Us, Many Too Many are anti-Genesis, Ripples of dissatisfaction that should be cut with The Knife. For the Man On The Corner, Genesis is on the Horizon, but I'm sure that they have a Time Table, Am I Very Wrong? Tell Me Why?
Some people on here seem to think Genesis will be like an Illegal Alien, about to engage in a marketing Battle Of Epping Forest with likes of Audi and BMW, Throwing It All Away, but I Know What I Like. Hyundai will be basking in the Afterglow, I doubt that there will be Blood On The Rooftops.
I bet that the infotainment system will be akin to The Musical Box, where you can Turn It On Again, even if there's a Squonk.
If there was another model, badly needed, And Then There Were Three, it could be designed for the Duke's Travels.
There might be talk of The Dividing Line on here and Trespass on Audi/BMW territory by Genesis, but they're not Down And Out, although it's the Way Of The World, there's Never A Time to launch a new brand, Like It Or Not; it's not Follow You, Follow Me. However, to The Man On The Corner, it's just another car, If That's What You Need and I'm sure Hyundai have undertaken customer surveys, but No Reply At All.
In my opinion, all Hyundai need to launch a new brand is the Invisible Touch, and they'll be Counting Out Time and Driving The Last Spike until Audi/BMW are In The Cage and Hyundai are looking at a Silver Rainbow.
The new brand has definitely got a Hold On My Heart, they're certainly not Fading Lights, and Me And Sarah Jane like it. It's not a Trick Of The Tail.
That's All, Mama.
Seconds Out
Mezzanine said:
I’d buy a Volvo S90 instead.
If not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
Because it may turn out to be a very good car? If not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
TarquinMX5 said:
It's The Way Of The World, people on here moaning about badges.
Why do some think Hyundai are In Too Deep with their new brand, surely there's a Misunderstanding as there's Never A Time to get Behind The Lines.
There's so much Small Talk on here, but It's Not About Us, Many Too Many are anti-Genesis, Ripples of dissatisfaction that should be cut with The Knife. For the Man On The Corner, Genesis is on the Horizon, but I'm sure that they have a Time Table, Am I Very Wrong? Tell Me Why?
Some people on here seem to think Genesis will be like an Illegal Alien, about to engage in a marketing Battle Of Epping Forest with likes of Audi and BMW, Throwing It All Away, but I Know What I Like. Hyundai will be basking in the Afterglow, I doubt that there will be Blood On The Rooftops.
I bet that the infotainment system will be akin to The Musical Box, where you can Turn It On Again, even if there's a Squonk.
If there was another model, badly needed, And Then There Were Three, it could be designed for the Duke's Travels.
There might be talk of The Dividing Line on here and Trespass on Audi/BMW territory by Genesis, but they're not Down And Out, although it's the Way Of The World, there's Never A Time to launch a new brand, Like It Or Not; it's not Follow You, Follow Me. However, to The Man On The Corner, it's just another car, If That's What You Need and I'm sure Hyundai have undertaken customer surveys, but No Reply At All.
In my opinion, all Hyundai need to launch a new brand is the Invisible Touch, and they'll be Counting Out Time and Driving The Last Spike until Audi/BMW are In The Cage and Hyundai are looking at a Silver Rainbow.
The new brand has definitely got a Hold On My Heart, they're certainly not Fading Lights, and Me And Sarah Jane like it. It's not a Trick Of The Tail.
That's All, Mama.
Seconds Out
You were doing ever so well, then there was repetition and you lost all your points.Why do some think Hyundai are In Too Deep with their new brand, surely there's a Misunderstanding as there's Never A Time to get Behind The Lines.
There's so much Small Talk on here, but It's Not About Us, Many Too Many are anti-Genesis, Ripples of dissatisfaction that should be cut with The Knife. For the Man On The Corner, Genesis is on the Horizon, but I'm sure that they have a Time Table, Am I Very Wrong? Tell Me Why?
Some people on here seem to think Genesis will be like an Illegal Alien, about to engage in a marketing Battle Of Epping Forest with likes of Audi and BMW, Throwing It All Away, but I Know What I Like. Hyundai will be basking in the Afterglow, I doubt that there will be Blood On The Rooftops.
I bet that the infotainment system will be akin to The Musical Box, where you can Turn It On Again, even if there's a Squonk.
If there was another model, badly needed, And Then There Were Three, it could be designed for the Duke's Travels.
There might be talk of The Dividing Line on here and Trespass on Audi/BMW territory by Genesis, but they're not Down And Out, although it's the Way Of The World, there's Never A Time to launch a new brand, Like It Or Not; it's not Follow You, Follow Me. However, to The Man On The Corner, it's just another car, If That's What You Need and I'm sure Hyundai have undertaken customer surveys, but No Reply At All.
In my opinion, all Hyundai need to launch a new brand is the Invisible Touch, and they'll be Counting Out Time and Driving The Last Spike until Audi/BMW are In The Cage and Hyundai are looking at a Silver Rainbow.
The new brand has definitely got a Hold On My Heart, they're certainly not Fading Lights, and Me And Sarah Jane like it. It's not a Trick Of The Tail.
That's All, Mama.
Seconds Out
robsa said:
ZX10R NIN said:
The cars are very nice & a good steer I've driven a few in the states the G60 in particular impressed as a clear step on from the 3.8TT Genesis Coupe that sold well in the US, when you get in one they're easily on par with BMW.
Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
I know that's really low mileage, but surely you would have to be insane to pick that over a similarly aged 41k mile S Class?Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104141...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103110...
2015/16 Genesis with 40k on are sold for between 15-17k & i think the Genesis would take it, especially when it comes to potential borkage.
robsa said:
ZX10R NIN said:
The cars are very nice & a good steer I've driven a few in the states the G60 in particular impressed as a clear step on from the 3.8TT Genesis Coupe that sold well in the US, when you get in one they're easily on par with BMW.
Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
I know that's really low mileage, but surely you would have to be insane to pick that over a similarly aged 41k mile S Class?Will they sell well probably not because the UK is very badge conscious BUT that means they'll be a great used buy, look at the current Genesis, if you want a luxury family motor & don't mind petrol they're a good buy used:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103200...
For those going on about EV versions they already have them as well as hybrids, they're coming to the UK market, at a guess I'm guessing they're more focused on the Australian market where Hyundai/Kia sell well & we're just a while we're making RHD we might as well see if we can sell some in the UK.
They already know roughly how well these will sell by looking at the sales numbers of the previous Genesis!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104141...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103110...
2015/16 Genesis with 40k on are sold for between 15-17k & i think the Genesis would take it, especially when it comes to potential borkage.
But this 740li would have me taking it for a test drive to see if I could live with the looks
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202012157...
GL123 said:
MonkeyMatt said:
I still think Hyundai/Kia should have bought SAAB
Agreed I can't believe that level of brand equity hasn't been snapped up and used in Europe and USNot heard much about that now for many years though. Every year that passes, the less equity the brand has unfortunately.
ambuletz said:
epom said:
the_hood said:
That grille! Hideous!
What has gotten into the designers heads ?? I don't mind it TBH, but if I ever see one on the roads in the UK I'll be surprised.
Mezzanine said:
I’d buy a Volvo S90 instead.
If not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
Volvo - only do 4 cylinder engines which are boring, I'd take the V6 Genesis with everything else being roughly equalIf not a Volvo, then whatever big saloon Lexus makes these days.
Failing that, then something from Germany.
Unless this was obscenely cheap or built like the original LS400, then why would you even click on their website.
They may have a chance with the SUV range but who buys a ‘big’ engines saloon in todays market in the U.K?
Lexus - only do nasty CVT gearboxes ruling them out unfortunately
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