RE: Genesis to launch in UK with G80 saloon

RE: Genesis to launch in UK with G80 saloon

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SidewaysSi

8,826 posts

199 months

Tuesday
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What a load of junk. I expect them to sell less than 10 in the UK.

The Hyundai Sonata looked much better than this.

CDP

6,777 posts

219 months

Tuesday
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They should have gone EV/hydrogen only in Europe and not even bothered with ICE.

Hyundai already have a lead in the technology.

designndrive62

712 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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  • edited to add just been beaten to the EV comment above smile *
Rather than peddling an un-needed 'luxury' brand, Id rather they put their current brand awareness into something like producing an electric vehicle for the masses. All the current brands are going for stupid BHP figures and silly 0-60 times and top speed

Someone just needs to make a simple, cheap, affordable EV. Lightweight, limited to 90-100mph nobody needs anything more than that, reduced performance, 0-60 in 8-9 seconds is perfectly serviceable. these things would mean a Electric motor vehicle (battery or hydrogen) could quite feasibly do 400+miles on a charge, and at minimal cost difference to the current ICE vehicles.

vikingaero

5,657 posts

134 months

Tuesday
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SidewaysSi said:
What a load of junk. I expect them to sell less than 10 in the UK.

The Hyundai Sonata looked much better than this.
But the whole point is that you're mainly flogging these cars to the Chinese, and as they are RHD, you may as well export a few to the UK.

CDP

6,777 posts

219 months

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designndrive62 said:
*edited to add just been beaten to the EV comment above smile *

Someone just needs to make a simple, cheap, affordable EV. Lightweight, limited to 90-100mph nobody needs anything more than that, reduced performance, 0-60 in 8-9 seconds is perfectly serviceable. these things would mean a Electric motor vehicle (battery or hydrogen) could quite feasibly do 400+miles on a charge, and at minimal cost difference to the current ICE vehicles.
just

rofl

whp1983

506 posts

104 months

Tuesday
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Entering.... and exiting European market soon...

Don’t know why but it’s just so much harder to establish a brand here than in US or China

MonkeyMatt

6,328 posts

172 months

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indapendentlee said:
As others have said they've tried this a couple of times but the big difference for me is that Hyundai (and Kia) have way more brand equity now than they ever have. They are viable alternatives to some of the more regular German manufacturers. The quality will be absolutely impeccable, the tech strong and it'll be good to drive - if they can get the lease/PCP deals right they should have a better shot than they have before and find it easier going than Infiniti did.

Wish them all the best!
Nissan didn't manage it with Infiniti. Toyota just about managed it with Lexus but even now they are massively outsold by the European luxury/sporty brands.

MonkeyMatt

6,328 posts

172 months

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I still think Hyundai/Kia should have bought SAAB

threespires

3,762 posts

176 months

Tuesday
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vikingaero said:
But the whole point is that you're mainly flogging these cars to the Chinese, and as they are RHD, you may as well export a few to the UK.
Eh?

CDP

6,777 posts

219 months

Tuesday
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MonkeyMatt said:
I still think Hyundai/Kia should have bought SAAB
It would make a lot of sense but might be too late now.

fantheman80

332 posts

14 months

Tuesday
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'Jesus he knows' its going to be tough sell over here. 'I cant dance' about this one I have to say. I hope they learn from Infiniti and 'Think Twice' about it (ish) and dont get 'In too Deep' or it could all fall like 'Domino' s

Sorry, i feel better now

808 Estate

1,066 posts

56 months

Tuesday
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Looks OK, apart from that radiator grille.

MonkeyMatt

6,328 posts

172 months

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CDP said:
MonkeyMatt said:
I still think Hyundai/Kia should have bought SAAB
It would make a lot of sense but might be too late now.
I remember discussing at the time, think SAAB and Kia would have been a good fit

dvs_dave

6,330 posts

190 months

Tuesday
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designndrive62 said:
Someone just needs to make a simple, cheap, affordable EV. Lightweight, limited to 90-100mph nobody needs anything more than that, reduced performance, 0-60 in 8-9 seconds is perfectly serviceable. these things would mean a Electric motor vehicle (battery or hydrogen) could quite feasibly do 400+miles on a charge, and at minimal cost difference to the current ICE vehicles.
I'm guessing you're not aware of the VW ID range, or the current Hyundai/Kia BEV offerings, and others? They fit that description exactly. Although none of them magically have a 400m range as a result. Because to do that, a BEV requires at least a 100kWh+ battery which is huge, and consequently very heavy and expensive.

Although I image you still probably say they're too heavy/expensive/ugly/slow/short-range/charge time too long....etc.

DanielSan

16,081 posts

132 months

Tuesday
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They should've launched Genesis 10 years ago and given us the coupe. An N Coupe with the 2.0 Turbo lump and rear wheel drive would be superb

Markintokyo

4 posts

22 months

Tuesday
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Nowhere does this article mention the price, or contextualise against likely competitors. Did a bot write this?

ruggedscotty

3,327 posts

174 months

Tuesday
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Were rapidly closing in on year zero when new cars will be electric... Any car company that comes in now with an electric car will do well, breeding and engineering ? I feel that its going to be a clean slate here.

If you can give a decent go of it then the market is going to be anyones... ICE consigned to history then they should be going fast for electric.

Jag_NE

2,498 posts

65 months

Tuesday
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I’d like this to work but I can’t see it happening.

Lexus achieved a pretty minor foothold in Europe by launching with an exceptional car, let’s see if these ones are similarly game changing.

I can’t see these being attractive as company cars and with private buyers being mainly pcp/lease unless they can work some magic on residuals these just won’t make sense.

Kermit74

49 posts

65 months

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It's hideous

Pastie Bloater

255 posts

128 months

Tuesday
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ruggedscotty said:
Were rapidly closing in on year zero when new cars will be electric... Any car company that comes in now with an electric car will do well, breeding and engineering ? I feel that its going to be a clean slate here.

If you can give a decent go of it then the market is going to be anyones... ICE consigned to history then they should be going fast for electric.
They're even called Genesis ffs banghead